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Posted: 8th December 2006 16:34
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Does anyone know the best way to kill the Balloons in the Stilshrine?
All my characters are Level 25, and they hit for around 400-500 HP each time, but I use Libra to look at the Balloons HP, and they're only down like 10 after I hit them. What gives?  -------------------- You don't scare me, you talking blobs of oozing slop! I am impervious to pain! |
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Posted: 8th December 2006 17:02
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Quote (Asylum Outpatient @ 8th December 2006 16:34) Does anyone know the best way to kill the Balloons in the Stilshrine? All my characters are Level 25, and they hit for around 400-500 HP each time, but I use Libra to look at the Balloons HP, and they're only down like 10 after I hit them. What gives? I had the same problem  It turned out i had Basch equipped with a weapon that healed the baloons elemental absorb (can't remeber if it was the icebrand or flametunge) |
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Posted: 8th December 2006 17:15
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You would think after a decade of playing FFs I would have learned to check elemental attributes. Thanks, mate.
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Posted: 9th December 2006 00:59
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Argh, yes, I had the same problem. (It's Flametongue). I just had Vaan stand back while Ashe and Basch take care of the Balloons. Currently, I've reached Archades and I've spent quite a lot of money buying a lot of Gambits I don't have. I still am missing quite a lot.
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Posted: 12th December 2006 05:11
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That's why I don't use elemental swords. -CSM
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Posted: 13th December 2006 16:16
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Quote (Crazyswordsman @ 12th December 2006 00:11) That's why I don't use elemental swords. -CSM You're making the game much harder then. Elemental swords can make short work of marks if used properly. If you have any long-range weapons, most ammo is elemental. Careful use of them can help you breeze through any area. For instance, the Zwill Crossblade is wind elemental. There's a variety of demons in the Necrohol that are weak vs wind. My characters do about 2000 per hit. The one with the Crossblade does over 5500. Big difference... -------------------- "Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession and the likelyhood of him sharing." |
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Posted: 14th December 2006 01:52
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Elemental Weaknesses are not key to defeating Yiazmat(the Final Fantasy XII superboss), but apparently, it makes the battle easier. Yiazmat is a Holy-elemental wyrm and, of course, is vulnerable to Dark damage. All Ninja Swords(from what I've seen) have the Dark element on them, so using them against Yiazmat would be an interesting strategy and from what I hear, Yagyu Darkblade is the strongest weapon to use against Yiazmat.
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Posted: 14th December 2006 03:07
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All ninja sword are inherent dark weapons, and Yiazmat is weak against Dark and absorbs Holy. The key to this fight is proper strategy. Make sure you have Bubble Belts, the Arise spell, and one 'Tank' with haste, bravery, protect, berserk and (most importantly) Decoy. Use your Masamune/Genji Glove combo in hopes of nailing a high combo attack (up to 10 hits for 9999, if you can get lucky) and pay attention to the boss's patterns. Hastega, Protectga, Shellga, and Bubble are all vital spells. Not to mention plenty of Chronos Tears. Make sure your healer has Curaja set for Ally HP=70% or better, and that he has a Sage Ring equipped to manage MP better.
Edit Yagyu Darkblade is a good choice, but it has a VERY poor combo rate. If you want, you can equip it on your second melee fighter, but for your primary, I suggest the Masamune Genji Glove combo. Maxing damage is the key here. This post has been edited by Nytecrawla on 14th December 2006 03:09 -------------------- This is a webcomic and gaming blog where I rant about nonsense. Enjoy. I was a soldier, now I just play one in video games. |
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Posted: 14th December 2006 08:54
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Wow, have you guys seen the swords of Gilgamesh.
Orichalcum Seen a number of times in other FF Excalibur Final Fantasy V Excalibur XII Based on the model from Final Fantasy V Steel Cutter One of Odin's swords Buster Sword Do I have to tell who wields this sword? Gunblade Final Fantasy VIII, Squall's weapon Brotherhood Wakka's gift to Tidus in Final Fantasy X Legendary Sword Dragon Quest I-II-III Pretty f' cool. -------------------- PS3 tag: TipoDLuffy "...quite possibly the greatest game ever made" |
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Posted: 14th December 2006 10:32
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Quote (SaffireWeapon @ 14th December 2006 03:54) Wow, have you guys seen the swords of Gilgamesh. Whole topic about it. http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/in...?showtopic=9749 -------------------- "To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN? |
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Posted: 15th December 2006 21:43
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Yeah but I'm too lazy to change my weapons around between every battle. Besides, my Silence Shot works wonders for me. -CSM
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Posted: 16th December 2006 22:32
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The Great Crystal dungeon and Giruvegan in general was a pain to get through, and now I have to get back to the Teleport Crystal at the very beginning to get back to Balfonheim. How much do I have left in the game? I'm guessing about 15-20% of the game left.
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Posted: 16th December 2006 23:49
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You're right Aether, you only have about 15% of the main quest left. Sidequests now, hoo boy. Hope you've been hunting steadily.
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Posted: 17th December 2006 00:44
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I'm actually just about to go there. I haven't done many sidequests yet (except hunting), and I know there's still the Zodiac Spear and about every worthless Esper. I might go and do Adralmech and the Zodiac Spear once I finish up this batch of Marks. -CSM
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Posted: 17th December 2006 05:32
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You just have one (albeit extremely long and arguous) dungeon left. Then you get to go to the final dungeon, which is more like a final area. So you're almost there.
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Posted: 17th December 2006 09:51
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Well, I have the Zodiac Spear now (although I don't have the license to equip it yet). I guess I better do Adramlech next. After that I'll do Zeromus and Gilgamesh. -CSM
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Posted: 17th December 2006 09:51
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i'm just finished giruvegan too, and still dont have any cool weapons yet?
how do you get them, stuff like ragnarok, wyrmhero or tournesol? |
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Posted: 17th December 2006 09:58
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^Once you have the Zodiac Spear, you have no need for anything else, apparently. -CSM
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Posted: 17th December 2006 10:06
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I heard the tournesol and the wyrmhero's combo rate is so high they are better than zodiac spear
ps. i can't get the spear as i opend some chest or something (how the hell you supposed to know withought a guide  ) |
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Posted: 17th December 2006 15:22
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Quote (Crazyswordsman @ 17th December 2006 02:58) ^Once you have the Zodiac Spear, you have no need for anything else, apparently. -CSM Masamune/Genji Glove ? -------------------- |
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Posted: 17th December 2006 20:43
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Posted: 18th December 2006 20:30
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I have it on good authority that the Zodiac Spear can still be gotten if you've opened some chests. But the chance of the chest in question appearing is only about 10%, and the chance of it containing the spear just as low.
The Zodiac Estechuon is another one-shot item - you can get the Brave Suit and then the shield will be gone. But the opposite is only partly true: there are two possible places where you can get the suit in question, so you should get the shield first. I have yet to confirm either of these, but I've seen it mentionned in more than one place. The spear in Nabudis is just the "easy" way of getting it. Finally got to the final area. The damned Pharos must've been the stupidest dungeon I've ever seen, what with not allowing you to save without doing the entire thing over again (unless you're lucky enough to be in an area with a save crystal), cryptic puzzles that dump you in rooms full of nasty enemies when you get them wrong (and the later hints are damned cryptic, too!), and quite a long final scene at the top. Do NOT tackle this dungeon if you don't have a good weekend afternoon ahead of you. :x Still looking for the hidden shop in Nabudis, but I think I know where it is now...  Edit: The "second" Zodiac spear chest isn't in Nabudis - just specifying because it sounded a little misleading. I'm really not sure where, though - I THINK it's in the Crystal. This post has been edited by Silverlance on 18th December 2006 20:31 -------------------- "Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession and the likelyhood of him sharing." |
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Posted: 18th December 2006 21:38
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I'm just about to head to the Pharos now. Maybe before that, I should do some sidequests. Here's what I have:
-Zalera -Adralmechh -Zodiac Spear (but I don't have access to the licence yet!) -All hunts up to Gilgamesh -Beat Gilgamesh once (and have Genji Shield/Gloves (but not the licenses!)) What other sidequests do I have available to me now? What's in the rest of the Nechrol of Nabudis that's worth it? Should I take on Zeromus/Entites with a level 68 Vaan and level 53 everyone else (reminder: no Zodiac Spear, Level 3 Quickenings, or magic)? What other sidequests should I do? -CSM Also, when do I get Slow and Haste 2, Black Magic spells higher than the Level 3 Trinity spells, Holy, and Renew? This post has been edited by Crazyswordsman on 18th December 2006 21:39 -------------------- The NEW Final Fantasy Wiki! Join us! |
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Posted: 18th December 2006 21:53
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Zeromus, you should've done that a LONG time ago, but be warn, try and get as many technicks as possible, all magicks are disabled in this fight. Good luck!!
It is posible to defeat Zeromus at Level 35, but it is very hard, unless of course you have the right technicks. And for Deus' sake, go get some license points to get that Zodiac Spear up and running. The license is located in the THIRD slot at the bottom right of the lower license board. It goes from top to bottom: Slot 1: SWORDS 7 (80 LP) -Stoneblade -Durandal Slot 2: EXCALIBUR (160 LP) -Excalibur Slot 3: ZODIAC SPEAR (235 LP) -Zodiac Spear Slot 4: MASAMUNE (155 LP) -Masamune Slot 5: TOURNESOL (225 LP) -Tournesol DO IT DO IT DO IT!!!! This post has been edited by SaffireWeapon on 18th December 2006 21:55 -------------------- PS3 tag: TipoDLuffy "...quite possibly the greatest game ever made" |
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Posted: 18th December 2006 23:12
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I have 3000 LPs on each character. But I don't want to get the next level swords without immediate access to the swords. Where are these located and where is the Masamune? -CSM
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Posted: 18th December 2006 23:21
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You do have a lot of LP's available, and "it only" takes 13,738 LP's to complete the entire license board, not counting the quickenings and espers which are divided into all characters depending to who you give the esper to, I say go for the Zodiac Spear, remember, the lower license board, to the bottom right, the last vertical line has five slots, those are the ones I mentioned on my last post.
The Masamune katana can be obtained after defeating Gilgamesh, that's the reward my friend! This post has been edited by SaffireWeapon on 18th December 2006 23:22 -------------------- PS3 tag: TipoDLuffy "...quite possibly the greatest game ever made" |
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Posted: 19th December 2006 00:00
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How do you think a leve 68 Vaan and level 53 everyone else could fare against Entites? (With and without Zodiac Spear) -CSM
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Posted: 19th December 2006 00:23
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It's certainly possible at that level(I'm level 62 and I've taken out Leamonde Entites and Diakon Entites). They use a lot of powerful magic, so you want to use Shell on your characters before fighting them.
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Posted: 19th December 2006 00:52
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Well I beat Zeromus with NO ZODIAC SPEAR.
Any other sidequests? I probably have some more hunts coming up, and I need to finish Gilgamesh. Hopefully by then I'll be able to uset the Zodiac Spear. -CSM This post has been edited by Crazyswordsman on 19th December 2006 00:53 -------------------- The NEW Final Fantasy Wiki! Join us! |
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Posted: 19th December 2006 01:34
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Zodiark and any other Espers you haven't gotten. Then, from there, it's pretty much just hunts and collecting loot to make your ultimate weapons from Entites and such.
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