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This poll is for my homework so please vote thanks.

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Final Fantasy 7- The Best thing since sliced bread

You left off the PSX, which would have got my vote. I went with Other because of that.

The PSX was awesome. It brought graphics to people that they had only seen on high end PC games up to that point. It had more games than a small beach has grains of sand. It was an immensly popular and succesful system, for these reasons as well as a hundred more.

My second place vote goes to the SNES, if anyone cares.

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Nintendo 64 for nostalgic purposes. It whooped on its own, but nostalgia gives it a bazooka of awesome in my mind.

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Bazooka of awesome? WHAT WAS I THINKING?

This post has been edited by FallingHeart on 24th October 2006 21:03

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"We're not tools of the government or anyone else. Fighting... fighting was the only thing I was ever good at, but at least I always fought for what I believed in." - Frank Yeager (a.k.a. Grey Fox)

This poll is really pretty awful. I'm removing it - the consoles aren't grouped by generation or manufacturer, so how on earth can you draw any conclusions from it?

I have to select NES, for the way that it paved the way for everything after it and the nostalgia factor as well.

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Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?

NES gets an honorable mention, no question. Good call on that one. It was a HUGE step up from what most platformers were used to.... which was the old school Atari.

Agreed on your comments about the poll as well. The PSP isn't even a platform. I was amazed that the PSX wasn't included, though. That borderlines on blasphemy.

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The PSP isn't even a platform.  

I'm sorry, but what do you mean by this? I mean, the PSP clearly wasn't going to get any votes for the greatest platform of all time, but it is a platform. I don't know if you don't know what the PSP is, or if you have some other reasoning. Sorry to take it off topic, but please elaborate.

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"We're not tools of the government or anyone else. Fighting... fighting was the only thing I was ever good at, but at least I always fought for what I believed in." - Frank Yeager (a.k.a. Grey Fox)

I was going to PM you, but others might misconstrue what I said as well, so I'll elaborate.

The PSP is, to me anyway, a handheld. This is an entirely different gaming medium that a console. The Gameboy, the DS, the PSP, the GB Advance, the Lynx.... These cannot be compared to the PSX, the PS2, the NES or SNES, the X-Box, and so on.

Why?

The graphics. The gameplay. The atmosphere. Number of unit sales. The quality (most times, not all) of the games. The type of gamer that they target. The availability of and type of games made for each. There is no way to accurately compare a handheld and a console in any category. So, best to keep them seperate.

I'm venturing a guess on this one, but I don't think most people would lump the PSP or DS in a discussion about consoles. Perhaps I'm wrong.... Lord knows that's been known to happen.

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"Platform", to me, implies something different from "Console". I would argue that the term platform in gaming definitions means more like "system" than "console".

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Hey, put the cellphone down for a while
In the night there is something wild
Can you hear it breathing?
And hey, put the laptop down for a while
In the night there is something wild
I feel it, it's leaving me

Can I use a console that has not come out yet like the PS3 or the Nintendo Wii?

This post has been edited by SetzerGabianni147 on 24th October 2006 20:05

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Favorite FF character - Unsure (Setzer or Vivi)
Favorite FF songs ----- FFVI
Favorite Esper: Ragnarok
Favorite Magic: Ultima

How on earth would you know they're the best if they're not released yet?

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With the lights out
It's less dangerous

SNES by far. Some of the best NES games really aren't replayable for me if I wanted to today, the system limitations were too great.

SNES on the other hand...
Final Fantasy II & III, Link to the Past, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Super Mario World I & II, Super Mario Kart, Donkey Kong Country I,II and III....

I could pick up every one of those games and enjoy them immensely today. I've done so on many occasion.

You could make a compelling argument for the PS1, but it just doens't have the same nostalgia factor. And from a personal perspective it just doesn't mean as much too me.

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"That Light has bestowed upon me the greatest black magic!"

My first system was the NES, but it broke so I got the SNES when I was 5 years old. Now that I play NES games through emulation I really don't like most of the games except for Mega Man games, Final Fantasy games, and the Kirby games.

The reason why I loved the SNES much more than any other gaming console was because of great games such as Batman Returns, Final Fantasy V, Mega Man X2, Street Fighter II, Super Mario World, etc.

Even though most of the SNES games I've enjoyed weren't the "you have to rly think your way through" difficulty I still enjoyed them nonetheless and because the SNES doesn't have loading times, I find myself playing it often more than the more modern gaming systems. I don't need all them shiney 3d graphics anyway

SNES because of many of the games already mentioned in this thread.

Also PSX because, as far as I'm concerned, its games are pretty much just as good as the SNES games.

I really can't decide between them...

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Console RPG Cliches

Well, I take platform, console, and system to mean the same thing, and it's some coherent batch of hardware used to run a certain set of games.

Atari:
2600, 7800, XEGS, etc.: I didn't even know about these and simply saw their names just now on Wikipedia.
Lynx: touched one before, but the batteries were dying. I don't even know what games existed for it.
Jaguar: never touched one.

Sega:
Master System: never touched one.
Genesis: owned it for two days before discovering that I couldn't play a game from Hong Kong (The New Zealand Story in particular) on it. I'm only familiar with the Sonic games, and with Castlevania: Bloodlines.
Game Gear: touched once or twice. Played some Sonic, some non-Sonic on it.
Saturn: never touched outside a store. Don't even know the game repertoire here other than Dracula X (Castlevania X2): Nocturne in the Moonlight.
Dreamcast: I would probably be a huge fan of the system if I owned it and there were many great games made of it. Nevertheless...barely touched, if at all.

Bandai:
Wonderswan: never heard of it until I realized that there was a version of FF4 for it.
Wonderswan Color: Wait, that version was for the WSC.
Swan Crystal: Just heard about it.

Tiger: ehh, I never liked handheld games, really.

Microsoft:
X-Box: I have no reason to get this. The only game I've played on it is Halo/Halo 2 (can't remember which one, but probably Halo 1). The only other games I have heard about for it are Castlevania: Curse of Darkness (which I don't care much about) and Fable, which I am totally not familiar with.
X-Box 360: The only game that I can name for it is Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, purely because some people downstairs play it a lot. But not me, since I don't like the game. In summary, anything by Microsoft is out.

Sony:
PlayStation: I just got one. I currently own Mega Man X4, Mega Man X5, and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, and I've had tastes of Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, Spyro 3: Year of the Dragon, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Final Fantasy VII. Maybe Twisted Metal at a department store. Considering that most of my experience with the PS is actually on emulator playing Symphony before I got the actual game, and that I have yet to get myself a memory card, no.
PlayStation 2: I am currently looking into how to find out how good Wild ARMs 4 is without before buying the system and the game. Another system I don't own, and am nearly totally unfamiliar with.
PlayStation Portable: I don't care. If I really need a reason, no Cv game yet. Not even a cancelled one. Additionally, it already has at least one fan that thinks that the design is the sexiest ever.

Arcade:
I don't like things that eat quarters.

Panasonic:
3DO: I don't even remember what I was in that little customer service office for (maybe for returning that Sega Genesis) when I heard about the 3DO. The sample console was powered off, and I remember getting no fun from the pillar of game consoles that were all off. Wait, does anyone else even remember this system?

SNK:
Neo-Geo, Neo-Geo Pocket, Neo-Geo Pocket Color: Okay, I only found so many names just now by looking at Wikipedia.

Commodore:
Commodore 64: The only way I know of this system is through The New Zealand Story and chiptunes (specifically SID files).
Amiga: I think I misidentified this as "Amida", the name of a so-so Game Boy game.

Hudson:
PC Engine/TurboGrafx 16: The only reason I know of this system is because of Dracula X: Rondo of Blood.

Sharp:
X68000: The only way I know of this system is because of Castlevania Chronicles, which remakes a Cv game originally for this system.

Nokia:
N-Gage: This does not count as a video game system.

GamePark:
GP2X: I have barely heard of this, but it seems interesting.
GP32, XGP: I just read about these now.

Nintendo:
Stuff before NES: who cares.
Nintendo Entertainment System/Nintendo Famicom (Family Computer): Nice system. Limited hardware in terms of graphical and sound capabilities, but it only takes skill to work magic with it--skill readily demonstrated by developers of games such as Castlevania 3 and Mega Man 6. Some of the NES repertoire suffer from gameplay control problems, such as the most notorious Ghosts 'n' Goblins and the whole Simon-drops-like-a-rock feature of Castlevania. Additionally, early games could be very difficult for other reasons, such as was the case with Metroid (which confused me for over ten years) and Castlevania II: Simon's Quest. But nevertheless, a good console. Other masterpieces include the Mario games (Super Mario Bros. 3 was a pioneering masterpiece), Duck Tales, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the other Mega Man series games, Super Mario Bros. 2/USA, the one-that-started-it-all Super Mario Bros. itself, and many others. And above all, it has the Duck Hunt dog.
Game Boy: Essentially the handheld analogue of the NES, except it lasted much longer before becoming outdated. It takes some skill to develop a good game for the Game Boy, but it is nevertheless very possible. Highlights include Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins, the ever-popular classic puzzle game Tetris, Donkey Kong's Game Boy version (also known as "Donkey Kong '94"), the famous The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening, the direct gameplay predecessor of Super Metroid: Metroid II: Return of Samus, the relatively obscure classic Tail 'Gator, the space-shooting-dueler Volleyfire, the classic puzzle game Alleyway, and much more from that 105-in-one game pack that I ended up with many many years ago. And we shouldn't forget the recently-controversial Castlevania Legends (a.k.a. Castlevania: Dark Night Prelude). The system fell into the background even during its lifetime, but what ultimately prevented a complete fade and resulted in its transitioning to upgraded hardware is the Pokémon series, which appeared very late in its lifetime but skyrocketed public awareness of the system.
Super Nintendo/Super Famicom: now that I've said this much about the NES and the GB, I don't even know how much of a rant I'll produce for the SNES. But I'll reserve the repertoire praise for the recent SNES games topic. See my commentary at the end of this post.
Virtual Boy: ...what? Oh well. Novelty value. Plus all the many problems that befell it.
Nintendo 64: The first 64-bit system, IIRC. However, it looked too polygonally choppier than the other 3D systems (Saturn and PlayStation) partly because I didn't see enough 3D stuff from those (COUGHFFVIICOUGH). However, while I never owned one of these (and I was about to get one along with 30 games for $20 bucks if someone else hadn't bought it first!), it benefits from my perspective from name recognition. Super Mario 64 may be meh, and I don't really like Mario Kar 64 that much (Super Mario Kart remains by far my favorite in the Mario Kart series), but my favorite game so far for this system is Star Fox 64. My oh my, the good old days of playing battle mode...and the good old days of being a passenger-side gamer observing as my friend battled things such as the "Rainbow Beam" boss and the upgraded "Wolfpack". This system is also significant for the Smash Bros. series's being established first here, even though I'm not a huge fan of that series. But I'd like to check out a bit more of Diddy Kong Racing (more than I could at a store) and actually play The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time sometime... But joysticks just wear out my left thumb too easily. And my friend's and my search continues for games that make any use of the control pad...
Super Game Boy: Cool accessory. The only drawback was that I couldn't trade pokémon while using it. But not like I ever found anyone to trade with.
Game Boy Color: If only it displayed Super Game Boy colors for my Pokémon Blue and Yellow cartridges...well, I had a Game Boy already anyway so I probably wouldn't have bought one. But at least that would have given me some reason to buy it.
Game Boy Advance: Okay, here comes a system that's basically a handheld Super Nintendo, with slightly (albeit noticeable) lower quality sound and (obviously) a much smaller screen, and fewer buttons. Commentary below.
Nintendo GameCube: I've found only two main reasons to buy this system: Tales of Symphonia, Metroid Prime. Sure, it's a darn good console, with great hardware and even excellent durability when dropped several stories (according that legendary test against the X-Box and the PS2), but the videogame market is a market of linked goods--an excellent console is useless without a game. I'm not enough of a Smash player to justify me getting it because of Smash Melee either.
DS: Interesting idea, but apart from Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, I haven't paid much attention to it. I might get one later, because of its backward compatibility with GBA games and the fact that there are some good games on itself (such as DoS and New Super Mario Bros.).
Revolution Wii: Well, as a first comment, Wii may like toilet humor, but I sure don't. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess fails to excite me, but Metroid Prime 3: Corruption might, on the converse. And if Super Smash Bros. Brawl contains K. Rool or a Belmont or Alucard...

Well, so we're left with the Super Nintendo and the Game Boy Advance.

The SNES takes the prize. The SNES was the first game system to have visually pleasing graphics, audially pleasing music, and tangibly pleasing controls.

The SNES controller remains my favorite controller, easily surpassing the more awkward joystick that I still have trouble with and easily surpassing the more awkward wrists-below method of systems like the PlayStation (which complicate things like dash-jumping off a wall in a Mega Man X series game).

While the NES had the Mega Man series for music, the SNES was the first system to truly give composers a sound system where their talent, and not the instrumental limitations of the hardware, was by far the greatest determinant of the quality of output. And I'm pretty sure we can all name so many games with notable soundtracks--Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy IV, Super Castlevania IV, Super Metroid, Dracula XX, Super Mario World, Super Mario World 3: Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Chrono Trigger...

(I've heard that the Genesis soundsystem was more powerful in terms of number of sound channels or something, but its instrumental range is much more limited, so in my opinion, it isn't as good.)

The GBA also has its list of great games, but it trails the SNES. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, the three Castlevania titles (Circle of the Moon, Harmony of Dissonance, and Aria of Sorrow), and the two Metroid titles (Metroid Fusion and Metroid: Zero Mission) are among my favorites for this system. Sure, it also has remakes and re-releases of many many classics (mainly NES and SNES games), but I do not count these as original games. Additionally, while boasting similar graphical capacities as those of the SNES, it has inferior sound quality and a smaller control button set.

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(okay, not actually an edit; just an end comment)
That took forever.

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I think that, theoretically speaking, my ideal game console (if the assortment and quality of games were perfectly equal) would be the PlayStation. Better soundsystem than the SNES, and ability to use cool 3D things that look much much more crisp on an emulator than on an actual television (which basically means, if I had actually gotten a PlayStation many years ago before the advent of PS emulation, I'd probably not notice it anyway).

But given the selection of games on the two systems, the SNES is my favorite.

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Oh wait, BEST system.

Hm...

For game repertoire: SNES.
For hardware: well, hard to say. For me, probably whichever has the best sound hardware along with decent graphics hardware.
For portability and fun: the GBA or DS.
For multiplayer gaming: the GameCube.
For Metroid: the GBA.
For Castlevania: either the PS or the GBA.
For Final Fantasy: the SNES, or maybe the GBA.

For significance in videogame history: good inquiry...I don't know.

This post has been edited by Glenn Magus Harvey on 25th October 2006 10:24

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For me it depends WHAT the game genre is...
I'm an arcade freak...I love 2D fighters (Capcom or SNK? Capcom or SNK? Capcom or SNK?...) , scrolling fighters (AVSP arcade and Metamorphic Force ), pistol games (House of the Dead FTW) and stuff like DDR...
Hm...I have to ALMOST agree with GMH's rant.
Except I just love the GBA and, in my opinion, it beats SNES...then again, it's mainly beacause of Golden Sun.

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Sorry, haven't played Harvest Moon, Golden Sun, Fire Emblem, or Lufia before.

Also...http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/index.php?showtopic=5097

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Can you define "best" for me? Are we talking the most graphically flexable, the least buggy, had the best games, best controls... etc? I like different systems for different reasons and would kinda' like to know how I'm defining this. ^^``

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Tough choice.

NES set the standard in so many ways. First Zelda, first Metroid, first Super Mario Bros., first Final Fantasy, first Mega Man, first Castelvania...a near monopoly on the market also meant that almost all of the first wave of games came through on that sytem. So it's a contender for certain.

SNES continued the long line of quality games. There were huge improvements in terms of graphics, sound, and gameplay. Also the first sytem on which I experienced a true Final Fantasy (having experienced FF Legend III, aka SaGa III, on GameBoy) so lots of credit for that. This sytem might have the highest number of games I look back on with fondness: FFII & IIIUS, LOZ:LTTP, Star Fox, Super Metroid, etc. They all had a more cinematic feel to them and were more engaging for that reason. But the SNES loses out in a big way to the NES in one category: difficulty. Games just got a heck of a lot easier on the SNES.

PSX. I remember being a loyal Nintendo fan. I had a Genesis mostly because it had the better version of Shadowrun. Then I sold it, determined to get a N64 even after hearing about Sony's new system. But I'll never forget the first time I saw this system in action. Battle Arena Toshinden and Ridge Racer were the two games that really got me hooked early on. It might have helped that I saw it on a big screen--what an improvement in graphics and sound. Then came the Square announcment. I never bought a N64 after that.

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Can you define "best" for me? Are we talking the most graphically flexable, the least buggy, had the best games, best controls... etc? I like different systems for different reasons and would kinda' like to know how I'm defining this. ^^``

All things considered, it's a tough call between the PSX and SNES. My personal criteria take three factors into consideration:

1. System capabiliies -- graphics, sounds, etc.
2. Quality of games
3. Nostalgia factor

I think my list would have to go like this:

1. SNES
2. PSX
3. NES

Shoutout to the Cube and PS2 though. I've had some fun times with those guys, just not enough distance to actually consider them for this list.

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SNES on the other hand...
Final Fantasy II & III, Link to the Past, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Super Mario World I & II, Super Mario Kart, Donkey Kong Country I,II and III....

I couldn't have put it better myself. SNES gets my vote.

This post has been edited by jfjksdl on 26th October 2006 00:23

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I know I've been Final Fantasy XII too long - just the other day I referred to a region with no cell service as a Jagd!

Quote (MetroidMorphBall @ 25th October 2006 18:56)

But the SNES loses out in a big way to the NES in one category: difficulty. Games just got a heck of a lot easier on the SNES.

I'm glad things got easier since the SNES because in the NES times the difficulty was extremely too high and it was frustrating. I liked how Mega Man 5 and 6 finally got easier. The only reason why the NES games were hard in the first place was because gameplay features were too limited. In the SNES you get more controls that increases fun. The SNES may have had easier games, but if you don't feel challenged at all, that's why you increase the difficulty level. I always do that whenever I play Street FIghter II and Batman Returns.

even tought there is no poll anymore, my opinio is...

The PSX, it really brought gaming to a whole new level and it revolutionized the gaming world. There has never been such a DRAMATIC change in visuals and sound in the way the PSX (Saturn and N64 too) did. The games now (then) came in new and awesome ways of gameplay that people never expected posible. The PSX also has some of the most memorable games ever, some even the first installments of some of the most popular franchises of today.

Resident Evil DC; Metal Gear Solid; Ridge Racer; Gran Turismo; Tekken; Ape Escape; Xenogears; Air Combat; Twisted Metal

PSX is my favorite console of all times, but the one I get most nostalgic about is the SuperNES, followed not too far behin by the NES and the Master System by SEGA.

Those my friend, those were the days!

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"...quite possibly the greatest game ever made"

Sorry, but i just can't answer this question.

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There isn't a poll, but I really thought the SNES was the best system.
Best games.
Which makes the GBA just as good.
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SNES: clunky but durable, no moving parts except for switches and eject button, ergonomic controllers, crisp sound (try running AV cables into a good stereo, FFVI will just about make you cry), great games.


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I thought I'd add, the SNES had longer controller cables than modern day systems, making it so that you could....you know...sit where you actually wanted to sit and play. Half the reason we are all so jazzed about wifi is because they have been screwing us over with too short controller cables for years.

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"That Light has bestowed upon me the greatest black magic!"

SNES gets my vote hands down. Most of my favourite games come from that system: Lufia series, BoF series, Mario series, etc. My other favourite games are the old fashioned RPG games that look like they should be from the SNES. I go for older games as opposed to the new fangled things.

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SNES on the other hand...
Final Fantasy II & III, Link to the Past, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Super Mario World I & II, Super Mario Kart, Donkey Kong Country I,II and III....

SNES gets my vote.
Too much fun.

a close second would be PSX

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Like almost everyone else in this thread, I have to say SNES was my favorite console... I've never actually had a SNES console of my own, but the games for it are awesome. A close second would have to be Nintendo 64. I still have my N64, and all of my games. N64 had so many great games...

For handheld, my favorite would be gameboy color. I no longer have a GBC (it was stolen), but I still play some GBC games on my SP.

http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/in...showtopic=10095 heres my opinion

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My favorite is the Play Station! There is no one who is better!

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