Posted: 11th February 2004 17:52
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If you were to do the Narshe battle right now, what groups would you choose and what strategies do you use? I ask the second part of the question because Narratorway just informed me last night that you don't have to fight all the soldiers. You can just go right to Kefka. I never thought of this because the game says "protect the esper" not "go get Kefka". :shrugs:
First of all I'll do my analysis of the characters at this point in the game. Here are the characters you have: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Very useful: Edgar (Autocrossbow, Noiseblaster, Bio Blaster) Sabin (with Fire Dance, otherwise somewhat useful) Gau (Templar rage: Fire 2 w/ safe status) Somewhat useful: Terra (Cure, Fire) Celes (Cure, Ice) Cyan (Quadra Slam) Hardly useful: Locke (Fight) Here's the setup. The left team consists of Gau, Celes and Locke. Locke is on the 3 person team so the other 2 teams have more beef. Gau takes care of the enemies, Celes keeps the party healthy and Locke uses the Genji Glove to kill one enemy at a time. If this team has trouble, Edgar can come over and help while Sabin moves one spot to the left. This is the Kefka team because Celes can use Runic during that battle while Gau roasts the guy. Edgar and Terra make up my second group. Terra keeps the two healthy while Edgar quickly takes care of the enemies usually. Sometimes I'll have Terra cast Fire but in this situation healing magic is very valuable and shouldn't be used up too fast. If Sabin's group is having trouble, Edgar simply moves up a spot. Problem solved. My third group consists of Sabin and Cyan. They're both hard hitters who usually kill the enemies before they take too much damage. This is good because they lack healing spells. They only have the limited Tonic and Potion supply to rely on. Quadra Slam takes time to charge up and Cyan's defense is somewhat lacking which is why I didn't put him in the very useful catagory. If Edgar's group is having trouble, Sabin just moves to the left one spot. -------------------- FFXI (Siren server) Tauu the Windurstian Tarutaru! White Mage & Paladin |
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Posted: 11th February 2004 20:49
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I use Celes, Locke, Sabin and Edgar in one group. With this group I defeat all the soldiers, every one of them. The other members are simply placed around Banon in case one slips by(wich is rare). I dont have any trouble doing this, and hardly use any supplies.
Heres why I do it Possible spoilers: highlight to view When you have to travel to Zozo, I use these four characters. Using them during the Narshe fight makes the stronger and enables passage to Zozo much easier. I bring Sabin and Edagr to bring along because they have *hit all opponents* attacks, with blitzs and tools. Celes and Locke because they are my favorite characters. When having to travel to vector you are forced to bring Celes and Locke, so having them at a high level makes everything easier. And having Sabin and Edgar around again, makes fighting a breeze. I like to think ahead. -------------------- Yeah, I barely post. |
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Posted: 11th February 2004 21:47
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I do the close to the same thing as max, except switch Gau for Edgar. Also, my reason for keeping Celes is different; I don't like her, but she determines the level that all your characters are in the WoR, so i always use her as much as possible in the WoB.
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Posted: 11th February 2004 21:50
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My review of the characters, using i90east's notation:
very useful: Sabin (has Pummel Blitz (when I first played I didn't realize I could do Fire Dance yet) which can kill one soldier/dog in one hit) Cyan (has Dispatch Swdtech which can also kill one soldier/dog in one hit) Edgar (has Autocrossbow, which can kill ALL stuff in one hit) Terra (has healing magic, which is much less expensive than healing items) Celes (has healing magic, which is much less expensive than healing items) moderately useful: Gau (Templar is a nice rage to have, but (1) I forgot to pick up new rages when I first got Gau and (2) he doesn't always kill something in one hit) not really that useful: Locke (all he can do is attack or steal, and he most likely WON'T kill anything in one hit) I went under the impression that my mission was to take out all the soldiers and then go after Kefka. Therefore I formed three teams that I tried to equalize in strength: Sabin, Celes (heavy hitter and healer) Cyan, Terra (heavy hitter and healer) Edgar, Locke, and Gau (very heavy hitter but no healer) I positioned my teams so that the soldiers had no way to get to Banon before hitting one of my teams. Then I waited as they came and attacked them when they walked up to my teams. After a while (I didn't count the number of battles I had fought), no more soldiers came, and I sent the Edgar team down to attack Kefka. I ended up using it to beat both Kefka and his "guard". -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Posted: 11th February 2004 21:51
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I put Edgar alone in one group and send him out first, because Bio Blaster reliably kills a group of four soldiers in one hit. No need to add anyone else, save them for the other characters to take on. Once the groups start changing from four soldiers to two soldiers and a dog, I move to my second group, which is usually Cyan and Locke. They usually do enough damage to cut through more groups, at which time I grab my mega group of four, Terra, Celes, Sabin, and Gau, and take the easiest path down to Kefka (sometimes involves skipping the Rider if I'm lucky -- yes, you CAN do this), where I take him down.
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Posted: 11th February 2004 22:41
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Well, like I said in chat:
Eddie's by his lonesome cause his noiseblaster keeps all the enemies from causing him much harm. Gau pairs up with Sabin cause they know each other (I tend to make pairs based more on story elements rather than stats) and cause Sab's fire dance is usually a one kill deal with Gau mopping up whoever survives. So they work well. Lastly, I got the main team that'll go against Kefka, which is o course Celes, Locke, Terra and Cyan. Celes nullifies Kefka's magic while locke unsuccessfully steals for most of the fight, meanwhile Cyan dishes out the damage with Dispatch and Terra on basic attack/potion healer. With this setup, I take out all the soldiers in order to puff up the levels early on. I also like to use this battle to smooth out my levels for all the characters. If one's a few short, they'll prolly take the most or even all of the fights. -------------------- |
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Posted: 17th February 2004 22:08
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Locke was useless at that point so I left him out ( he was group 3, by himself just standing there.) My 4-Person party did most of the work and they were Edgar, Sabin, Cyan, and Celes. My 2-Person Party was Terra and Gau, Terra alternated with healing and attacking and Gau used the brawler rage and I killed most enemies with 2 hits because of stone
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Posted: 17th February 2004 22:45
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My team sucked. my highest lv was 15.
sabin-15 edgar-12 banon-13 terra-9 celes-10 locke-15 cyan-15 gau-13 shadow-14 I said"screw the solider's" and skipped them all and fought kefka (: ![]() |
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Posted: 17th February 2004 23:02
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Hey my levels were lower than that--about 9-13. I did have quite some difficulty with the battle, especially with character placement (I experimented a few times) and with that darn MegaArmor (or whatever it's called) somewhere in the midst of those soldiers--it kept creaming whoever was in the center group (I think). But I held on and finally beat the crap out of all the soldiers before going after Kefka.
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Posted: 18th February 2004 00:07
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There is not much strategy to my setup.
I put Terra, Celes, Sabin, and Cyan in one group, Locke and Gau in another, and Edgar alone. Terra's team goes over to Kefka using Magic, SwdTech, and Blitz, Locke's team blocks one area, and Edgar blocks another. I use BioBlaster and AutoCrossbow and so don't need anybody else with Edgar. Gau and Locke can fight well by themselves and Terra's team can defeat Kefka quickly if you use Runic at the right time, Pummel and Dispatch. Terra is on triple duty with attack/healing magic and using items. -------------------- I want this world to change for good. I want to see Final Fantasy, the world of swords and magic. |
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Posted: 18th February 2004 20:30
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My highest level was at 25 and I had done a lotta training do to the fact that I had a speed button 4 my Emulator and I used that and trained for a while and now Edgar is at level 61!
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Posted: 19th February 2004 15:09
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I have a 3 person team comprised of Cyan or Sabin with a genji glove +Celes and Terra+edgar. They rush kefka and own him....everyone else hangs back in some random assortment and fights off the baddies. The bigger team stands right in front of banon, the mslaler weaker team stands to his right....they might figh 1 or 2 battles.
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Posted: 16th March 2004 21:07
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Now i thought of a new party:
Edgar (Level 25, with Auto-Crossbow. Sweet!) Terra, Locke, and Gau. Cyan, Sabin, and Celes. It could work. |
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Posted: 16th March 2004 22:06
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I used Edgar and Gau because Edgar is good on his own and Gau at that point is semi-awful and i put them up front to fight the majority of the enemies. Terra and Locke together because they were the weakest two so I left them back by Bannon so they didnt fight often. Then my main force was Cyan, Sabin, and Celes who went on a rampage and massacered the enemy with no problems (Sabin could kill in 1 hit or kill em all w/Fire dance)
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Posted: 17th March 2004 00:35
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Quote (The Gambler) Gau at that point is semi-awful With the right rages Gau can be quite good. Templar is best here because Gau has Safe status, and he casts Fire 2 which will kill all the soldiers in one hit when targetting all of them. See the FAQ thread for more details on good rages. -------------------- FFXI (Siren server) Tauu the Windurstian Tarutaru! White Mage & Paladin |
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Posted: 17th March 2004 01:04
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I stand by my choices in this thread. Even though I don't usually have Fire Dance by this point, Sabin with Suplex and AuraBolt is a better choice for fighting Kefka than either Cyan or Edgar. Cyan's Retort doesn't counter magic, and Edgar's bio-blast and arrows aren't as effective on Kefka as it is on enemy groups. Celes Runics, of course. Locke has to go somewhere, so I put him in as a meat shield. In the meanwhile, the other guys are wasting most of the soldiers.
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Posted: 18th March 2004 03:12
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alright here we go
group 1: Terra, Edgar group 2: Locke, Celes group 3: Sabin, Gau, Cyan (yes from their individual groups from the sidequests) My strategy is I take my group 3 (because at this point they are stronger than the others) and barrel my way straight through to kefka, putting group 1, and 2 in front of banon for protection -------------------- ~ A Hero Is Someone Who Stands When Their Legs Are Gone~ |
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