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This is important information that I need for my Expert Version 2 project, and none of the other 13 topic pages contain a thread about this. What order do you guys get the WoR characters in when you're collecting all of them? I plan on making the WoR a very dangerous place with few options at the beginning, and I need to know what the popular first characters are after getting the airship. Obviously you get Celes, Sabin, Edgar and Setzer in that order. Beyond that is where the question mark lies. The game suggests that you get Cyan next, but how many of you actually get him first? I understand that some people like to hurry up and get Locke so they can get the Narshe goodies. If that's the case with the majority then I will go ahead and make the Pheonix Cave monsters weaker than those in other areas. You'll still be able to get the characters in any order you want, it'll just require some training. The WoR will be specifically tuned for high level training with stronger monsters and higher experience point rewards.

As for me I generally get the 8 characters in this order:

Gau
Cyan
Locke
Mog
Umaro
Terra
Gogo
Shadow
Relm
Strago

This post has been edited by i90east on 5th March 2004 17:02

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I get Mog first. This is so I can get the Moogle Charm and avoid ennemy encounters. Next Gogo and Shadow, the easy chars (with the moogle charm). From there it will vary a lot, but probably Gau next, then Cyan, Relm and Strago. I usually get Locke last.

Hope that helps you.

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Mog
Locke
Terra
Umarro
Cyan
Relm
Strago
Gau
Shadow
GoGo

Mog first so I could use the Moogle charm then get Locke, so I could steal from all the bosses. Then I just get them in close order. With ever one is usually closest to the dot.

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I also stick with trusty old Mog first, for that same Moogle Charming reason. After that I go and pick up the Offering and Fixed Dice (then back out of Kefka's Tower), and beyond that I have no specific order.

If you want to make it harder, it might be an idea to ramp up the difficulty (and maybe enc. rate, if you can) in the caves of Narshe or snowfields, making early Mog and Moogle Charm a less attractive proposition. If you can keep the actual town difficulty lower, then it should still be fine for people bringing Locke for treasures, I guess.

Order of decreasing level-load factors, of course:

Gau +2 (pick him up for major battles, then LEAP him before picking up another char)
Terra +0 (I am not 100% positive that Terra can be gotten before Cyan. I will confirm it on this playthru)
Relm +0
Shadow +0
Locke +2 (One may want Locke for Owzer's house to steal lots of good eq. Can you return to Owzers house after you pick up Relm?)
Strago +2
Cyan +2
Mog +5
Umaro WOR Umaro Cave +0
Gogo (WOR Gogo Cave) +2

For those of you interested in attaining L99 for each char:
The levels of the last two are clearly irrelevant for Esper-levelup bonus purposes. So it doesnt matter which order you get them. In fact, if you want to minimize the time spent leveling chars to L99, then you may want to levelup all 12 chars to 99, then get Umaro and Gogo and when they join they will already be L99.

i90-
If the goal is to make a harder, yet still fun game, dont nerf the Phoenix Cave (relative to other WOR areas). Phoenix Cave has some of the cooler monsters in the game. If you are going to nerf something, nerf some of the monsters in Ancient Castle (Barbe, Enuo, Figaliz, Goblin, Suriander) and inside Veldt Cave (ToeCutter). boring monsters! But still pump up the other monsters in those areas, so its not a walkover. Blue Dragon, Boxed Sets, Lethal Weapons, Master Pug and Rhyos are still very cool monsters and should be pumped up appropriately.

I havent played any version of your expertFF6 yet, but please beef up the DEF, MDEF, MBlock% of all the Legendary Dragons, if you havent already. I thought all of the Dragons were pushovers. Square should have used them as the Ultimate Weapons for FF6, but noooo; their stats are all very weak. I will most certainly be playing your version after my currect low-level game.

This post has been edited by Detah on 27th February 2004 14:38

You could make it very difficult to get Sabin right away. That would certainly make the game more challenging. If you filled that house up with dangerous baddies, more people would be reluctant to get him right away.

Anyway...I almost always go in the following order:
Cyan
Shadow
Terra
Relm
Gau
Mog
Strago
Umaro
Gogo
Locke


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usually i go for Terra first because its easy. I already have trashed phunbabba once with celes and sabin using fire claws and Fire 2 . But in my new game she may be last priority as im using celes more. Mog is second. Then I usually get shadow. (or umaro depending on my mood, just cuz im in the area) Next Locke is high priority as hes my main fighter and the ragnarok of course. The next couple people are useless to me in essence and its just what i feel like doing. You know, if im killing a dragon here or there ill stop in and get them. Or ineed to do a quest. Gau usually follows Shadow for that reason, Im already on the veldt.

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If you want to make it harder, it might be an idea to ramp up the difficulty (and maybe enc. rate, if you can) in the caves of Narshe or snowfields, making early Mog and Moogle Charm a less attractive proposition.

There is no Moogle Charm in my expert versions. It's replaced by a new item called the Moogle Ball which absorbs a few different elemental attacks, and only Mog can use it. I don't want people to get Tritoch right away so I will increase the difficulty of the monsters in that area.

Quote (Detah)

If you are going to nerf something, nerf some of the monsters in Ancient Castle (Barbe, Enuo, Figaliz, Goblin, Suriander) and inside Veldt Cave (ToeCutter). boring monsters!

I'm in the business of making monsters fun. Well I'll make a judgement as to what to do with those monsters when I get there.

Quote (Detah)

I havent played any version of your expertFF6 yet, but please beef up the DEF, MDEF, MBlock% of all the Legendary Dragons, if you havent already. I thought all of the Dragons were pushovers. Square should have used them as the Ultimate Weapons for FF6, but noooo; their stats are all very weak. I will most certainly be playing your version after my currect low-level game.

Yeah the dragons got beefed up and I'll be adjusting them a second time. I recommend waiting for Expert Version 2 because it will be much better than the original.

Quote (Neal)

You could make it very difficult to get Sabin right away. That would certainly make the game more challenging. If you filled that house up with dangerous baddies, more people would be reluctant to get him right away.

I'd rather make the monsters stronger than limit the player. The battles from South Figaro to Figaro castle are excellent with Sabin and Celes.

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I went
Gau
Cyan
Mog
Terra
Shadow
Relm
Locke
Umaro
Gogo


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Providing you've got Edgar, Celes, Sabin and Setzer - it's impossible to get Gau next. Why? Because to get him you have to approach him with three in your team. You can't get someone out of your party unless you have someone else waiting in the airship.

If you only have those four people, you can't take someone out your party. That's why the earliest you can get Gau is after you've got Cyan, or someone else. If you get say, Cyan first, he goes back to the airship and waits for him. Go and speak to him, THEN you can change your party to get three people in there so you can go and get Gau.

As far as I know it's impossible to get him first (when you've already got CES and Sabin,)



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I ussualy go...
rescue shadow
get terra
get shadow
relm
cyan
locke
gogo
whoever else, I don't care much about the rest of em so any order...I don't ussualy even get gau since I never use him and you don't get anything when you get him

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Well I got them in this order:
Cyan
Mog
Umaro
Terra
Gau
Gogo
Relm
Strago
Locke
but, I forgot to get Shadow after I dealt with the floating continent and when I get the striker I always fight Chupon and the prize is a bunch of ?marks.

Sabin
Cyan
Gau
Terra
Mog
Umaro
Gogo
Relm
Strago
Locke

It should be fun to include Czar Dragon in the Dragons battle script. He would come to the rescue when there are near death and call others Dragons to make to battle very hard. But I know that the allowed space for battle scripts is very limited

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I get my people in this order

-Celes - you start out w/ her
-Sabin - ezist character to get
-Edgar -ya haveto
-Setzer -ya havto too

In the next following order is when I HAVE the falcon

-shadow - hes my favorites charqacter
-gau - cause hes the next eziest

In the next following order, i have shadow + gau + sabin + edgar in my team

-relm - i get to starlet esper real fast
-mog - moogle charm
-gogo - hes fun to get
-strago - cause he gets lores(i get grandtrain right after i get strago)
-terra - becuase shes the next person to get
-umaro - cause i hate him so i get him 3rd to last
-cyan - i prefer him b4 locke
-locke - hes the toughy to get

For me I go this order:

Cyan (The monsters in Mt. Zozo are fairly easy)
Gau (Real easy to get once you have 4 characters)
Shadow (Save shadow since I'm right on the veldt anyway)
Terra (I sometimes get Terra earlier)
Mog (Getting the Moogle Charm helps getting Locke)
Umaro (Since I'm in Narshe, might as well get Umaro, and Tritoch)
Locke (The montsers in the Phoenix Cave are tough, but I like having steal)
Relm (Need to get Relm before Strago)
Strago (Strago's easy to get once I have Relm)
Gogo (I just always get Gogo last, no real reason)

Hmm...I dont' really remember, but I'll try at this...
Celes
Sabin
Edgar
Setzer
Gau/Relm
Shadow/Strago
Terra
Mog/Gogo
Umaro (right after getting Mog)
Cyan
Locke (the least convenient)

The ones listed as a/b are the ones I don't remember the order of. Either Gau and then Shadow or Relm and then Strago (immediately after Relm). Shadow I got a while after getting Gau though, so I may have gotten him after getting Terra. And I can't remember if I did the Narshe sidequest or Triangle Island sidequest first.

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Well, I always get Relm ASAP after getting the airship, B/C, Strago is my fav, and I wanna level him
followed by Cyan, then Terra
After that is Trusty Gogo, the Mog and Umaro.
Then Locke so I can get the Gem Box.
Then Shadow and Gau, if I bother getting them at all.

celes
sabin
edgar
setzer
gau
shadow
terra
gogo
cyan
relm
strago
locke
mog
umaro

This post has been edited by therandyrhoads on 29th February 2004 22:12

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I think that the square designers wanted it done in a certain way because of clues about the next character available once you find a new person.

1. Sabin - Because of clues in Albrook, you should get him before going to Mobliz.
2. Cyan - Obviously, the bird.
3. Gau - Cyan mentions him when he joins.
4. Relm/Shadow - From the cave in the veldt.
5. Strago - Once you get Relm.
6. Locke - The emperor's letter found in Owzer's House, and now you have plenty of chars to take on the Phoenix Cave.
7. Mog - Now that you have Locke, you can open up Narshe.
8. Umaro - Mog is needed.
9. Terra - Only one left. I don't really see the game leading you by the hand to her at any point.
10. Gogo - Secret character, should be last. It could be argued that you would get it after going back to Thamasa once you get strago and talk to the traveler guy, but I still think it should be last.

This is not the way I usually go, it just seems logical based on hints the game drops.




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Did a thread like this quite awhile ago, so I'll post the link and you can get some answers there if it helps.

http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/in...p?showtopic=935

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Quote (Iggy @ 27th February 2004 14:20)

Providing you've got Edgar, Celes, Sabin and Setzer - it's impossible to get Gau next. Why? Because to get him you have to approach him with three in your team. You can't get someone out of your party unless you have someone else waiting in the airship.

If you only have those four people, you can't take someone out your party. That's why the earliest you can get Gau is after you've got Cyan, or someone else. If you get say, Cyan first, he goes back to the airship and waits for him. Go and speak to him, THEN you can change your party to get three people in there so you can go and get Gau.

As far as I know it's impossible to get him first (when you've already got CES and Sabin,)

Actually, that's wrong. You can get Gau by either:

Hopping into the Phoenix Cave

or Kefka's Tower

And then hop right back onto the Airship. You'll only have Setzer in your party and you can reform your party with three members. So you CAN get Gau back first.

I will usually follow the order the game suggests as well:
- Sabin
- Cyan
- Gau
- Shadow (assuming you got him)
- Relm
- Strago (Fanatic's Tower optional at this point, lol)
- Locke
- Mog
- Umaro

Wtih Terra and Gogo somewhere in there. The game doesn't really lead you to Terra, but I usually beat Phunbaba the first time with just Sabin and Celes, before I get Edgar.

I usually go
Cyan- love me some Sword Techs
Terra- much better magic user than Celes for me
Mog- who could go without this guy? (and to a lesser extent his charm)
Umaro -(if I bother) but Terrato is right there and I'm already in Narshe
Relm- Starlet's a decent Esper, and the painting is a fun boss
Locke- definitely can destroy monsters in Phoenix Cave by now
Shadow- don't really use him but Throw amuses me
Strago- on the way to the Cult Tower, and what would Terra be without Gembox?
Gogo- never really know what to do with it, but Bum Rush rocks so why not twice
Gau- I HATE GAU

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