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Posted: 24th September 2006 22:10

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Alright I did a search though the FFVI forum and didn't see a thread like this.

Post a team of the four character you are least-likely to use, or when given choice never use.

Here's mine:
Umaro
Terra(yeah, I leave her to rot in Mobliz, sadly she manages to force her way into the ending)
Cyan, maybe if swordtech wasn't so slow, I might use him. He is pretty useless compared to every other character, except maybe Umaro
Gogo-lacking in dialogue and character development, and brings no usefullness to your party you couldn't already have.

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Posted: 24th September 2006 22:34

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Hmmm... Probably Umaro, Cyan, Setzer, and Mog. I do almost always use every character, so those four aren't *completely* ignored.

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Posted: 24th September 2006 22:43

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Heh, great idea Cloud. biggrin.gif

I almost never use Umaro (not a fan of Berserkers), Cayenne (just not a very useful character), Mash (I can do more damage with other things), and Gau (even though he is really powerful, I just like controlling my own characters).

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Posted: 25th September 2006 02:12

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You win, CS510.

Anyway...

- Relm: low attack stat, I don't use magic that much, and very useless skill unless equipped with FakeMustache in order to Control enemies to get Strago to learn stuff. Which means this anti-ideal team will NOT contain Strago (it wouldn't anyway since Strago's a very powerful character).
- Mog: good attack stat, but that's about all he's good for. I don't do dances since they fail half the time and I don't like having to deal with that, and the move chosen is random anyway.
- Celes: great magic power, and decent attack. Third most useless character in the game, in my opinion, because her skill (Runic) is useless.
- Cyan: While I love his characterization, his skill sucks. SwdTech should be the player choosing a command and then letting him wait it out, not the player waiting it out in order to choose a command. But since the latter is the sad reality with this game, I'm going to have to go with Cyan. He's also a pretty darn powerful charcter, too...

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Posted: 25th September 2006 13:35

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FF6 isn't a particularly difficult game, and therefore, I think you're free to put a priority on characters that are fun to play and/or likeable. As such, I always found Strago's Lores too be too much trouble to collect (despite their power - as I found out in later games), Setzer to be altogether boring (small exception of GP rain), and Shadow unlikeable. Meanwhile, GoGo is unusually fun, and Relm is amusing.

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Posted: 25th September 2006 17:10

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I always found Strago's Lores too be too much trouble to collect (despite their power - as I found out in later games), Setzer to be altogether boring (small exception of GP rain), and Shadow unlikeable.


Strago-True

Setzer-Believeable

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No offence, but how can Shadow be unlikeable? He's usually in my top 5 favorite FFVI characters.

Now to be back on topic, I would say: Strago, Relm, Gogo, and Umaro. Nothing against them (I like all FFVI characters), but I say I use them the least. Umaro, you can't control him and it gets annoying at times. Gogo is just like a fake copy of everyone else, except does only half the damage they would with their tech. Relm can be fun, but her attack and magic aren't all that good. Strago, some of his lores can do less damage than a mid-level spell with regular magic.

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Posted: 25th September 2006 20:21

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Gogo:Rofl I dont know how to use mimic
Gau:Ugh too annoying
Relm:I dont know but if I ever play again I will becuase of her magic.
Cyan:His portrait gives me shivers.

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Setzer:I dont know......
Mog:Might use him next playthrough.

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Posted: 25th September 2006 21:06

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How can Shadow be likeable? He runs off from the party multiple times, always taking some good stuff with him. He comes within minutes of abandoning his own daughter in an blaze. He bolts to the colosseum after the fall, and is willing to fight you for some stupid dagger.

He's an interesting character, and the plot is better for having him. I won't deny that. I just don't *like* him.

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Posted: 25th September 2006 21:35

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Relm can be fun, but her attack and magic aren't all that good.

Now, I'm not all that much of a Relm fan, but just so you know, Relm has the highest natural Magic stat in the game, period. It can get even better, of course, with the right Esper allocation.

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Posted: 25th September 2006 22:04
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My least favorite party:

Gau: Weird dude. I don't know which rage I should pick! They're all far too good and none of them cost any MP WTF!!!?
Umaro: Nice power, but berserkers suck since they can't do anything else but attack.
Gogo: Though it is good at mimicing and using other commands, don't like the character.
Relm: Her merit is the Sketch command, but everything else sucks about her.
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Posted: 25th September 2006 23:33

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Relm: Her merit is the Sketch command, but everything else sucks about her.

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Relm has the highest natural Magic stat in the game, period. It can get even better, of course, with the right Esper allocation.


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Edit: Relm's Sketch is probably the worst part about her, I'd say...:/

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Posted: 26th September 2006 00:23

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Even if she has more Magic than some others, her sketch sucks abitlity... Miss; Miss; Miss; PUNCH: 252 damage. blink.gif
OKAY, I have to agree that beaing able to sketch a monster that fast and even make your painting attack is just unbeleivable, yet that's not a powerful ability in battle.

Umaro
Apes are not my thing, neither are berserked apes. wink.gif

Gogo
Sure, you can set any ability you want to him, but... That's the only mimic I don't like; go figure.

Setzer
Slots have never been my thing in ANY game, therefore I don't really use him. sad.gif
But I love the character in general, that's for sure.

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Posted: 26th September 2006 01:21

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Cyan and Umaro are obvious choices.

I'd also say Celes, since Terra is infinitely better.

Probably Strago, since he really has nothing special, even with Lores, Magic is still better. -CSM

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Posted: 26th September 2006 09:33

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Setzer to be altogether boring (small exception of GP rain), and Shadow unlikeable.


I actually rarely, if ever, use GP Rain, but almost always use slots. Since his slots can't hurt me (with the exception of Joker Doom, which I've never gotten, along with never having gotten Joker either), I use Slot and usually end up with the diamond flash or the chocobo rush, or (if I'm lucky) H-Bomb or even a random summon. The two basic attacks that I'll almost always get deal damage to all enemies, making them very convenient.

Shadow is relatively less useful, though, in my opinion, despite how much I like his character. The reason is that throw uses up my inventory, and I somehow always play with this mindset that I need to save up my really-nice-for-throwing items (such as Tack Stars) for some super-nasty battle (although I haven't played the game in a while, and by now I know how easy the game is). But then, those weak Mythril Swords don't do much damage even when thrown.

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Gau: Weird dude. I don't know which rage I should pick! They're all far too good and none of them cost any MP WTF!!!?


Wouldn't his having a huge selection of powerful Rages be a good thing, not a bad thing? Unless you can't get over what seems to be indecision, the way you put it...

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Umaro: Nice power, but berserkers suck since they can't do anything else but attack.


However, he has a MEAN attack power (if I recall correctly), plus he can do defense-ignoring attack and a special attack if given the right relics.

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Gogo: Though it is good at mimicing and using other commands, don't like the character.


...what don't you like? I think any stat suckiness that Gogo suffers from (that's the most common complaint about Gogo) is more than made up by Gogo's versatility--unless you really aim to make a big deal about those stat bonuses and use them to shoot someone else's stats through the roof, while you can't do that with Gogo. But I never cared about the stat bonuses.

Oh, and keep in mind that Gogo can be "equipped" with three other commands--Gogo isn't limited to Mimic.

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Edit: Relm's Sketch is probably the worst part about her, I'd say...:/


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Posted: 26th September 2006 11:32

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My least-fab four would be:

Gogo: The jack-of-all-trades is an ace of none. There's no ability in the game so great that I feel the need to duplicate it, and poorly at that.

Cyan: Like was mentioned above, making everyone wait for SwdTech to load up is crap. I keep waiting for Relm to chuck a rock at his head just to see if he's awake.

Sabin: Blitzes are great -- until you actually need them. Then my controller-fu goes out the window and I wind up wasting three turns. Meh.

Shadow: A ninja without Two Swords innate? Boo. Plus, since almost everyone else can get so powerful, Throw in FF6 just isn't what it is in other FFs.

That's not to say I don't use these characters -- like in FFT, I usually take the four with the least experience, unless there's a plotwise reason not to -- but they usually wind up using Fight (or Tools, in Gogo's case) or Magic.

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Posted: 26th September 2006 15:33

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Relm, Strago, Umaro, and Gau.


Relm sucks becasue she has no useful abilities. Strago sucks because I much prefer blue magic systems like Quina's or Kihmari's. Umaro sucks because I absolutley hate berserkers. Gau sucks because I don't like to take the time to get rages and even when I do I don't know how to use them. (Of course sucks is a strong word I guess)

Ta lesser extent, I don't really use Mog in the WoR (I actually always use him in the WoB, when his dance is helpful. By the time I get him back in the WoR he's useless)

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Posted: 26th September 2006 21:33
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Wouldn't his having a huge selection of powerful Rages be a good thing, not a bad thing?
I just think it's a little too much and especially because it's what? 255 rages or so around there? I didn't like Gau because rages took too long to learn all of them and he can't equip any weapons.

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However, he has a MEAN attack power (if I recall correctly), plus he can do defense-ignoring attack and a special attack if given the right relics.
Yes, that's true. I forgot that. But not being able to control your characters suck in my opinion.

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...what don't you like? I think any stat suckiness that Gogo suffers from (that's the most common complaint about Gogo) is more than made up by Gogo's versatility--unless you really aim to make a big deal about those stat bonuses and use them to shoot someone else's stats through the roof, while you can't do that with Gogo. But I never cared about the stat bonuses.
I just felt that Gogo made other characters useless with its large selection of character commands. So it was unfair having it in my team. I guess Gogo does make itself useful, but having all those commands is too much imo. I wouldn't care if it was something job-based like FF5, but this is a game where each and every character is forced to have one initial command.

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Posted: 26th September 2006 23:54

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Relm, Strago, Gau, and Umaro.

All seem useless compared to Edgar, Sabin, Shadow...people like that.

But Umaro does kick some ass when he is needed; strong as an ape wink.gif

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Posted: 27th September 2006 14:51

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Relm - Can't stand the bitch

Gua - Ehh...

Umaro - He's cool, but I like to be the one in control

The rest of the characters are great.

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Posted: 27th September 2006 15:07

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I'm gonna leave out the special characters because they just don't seem proper to include. So my list is:

Cyan: Obvious
Relm: Obvious
Locke: Steal doesn't seem that useful.
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Posted: 27th September 2006 17:04

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Cyan: Obvious
Relm: Obvious
Locke: Steal doesn't seem that useful.
Terra: I just don't like her I guess.


I can understand Relm, but why the rest? Locke and Terra are two of my main fighters!

As for the team I wouldn't use, it'd be Relm, Gau, Mog and Umaro. Gau, Umaro, and Mog can't be controlled and Relm is extremely weak.

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Posted: 27th September 2006 18:36

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I can understand Relm, but why the rest? Locke and Terra are two of my main fighters!

Well, I don't get Terra, since she has awesome physical and magic stats and her skill makes that even more relevant, but I can understand Locke. I never found him that useful--all he really has is a physical attack, apart from magic. Steal doesn't deal damage until you get the relic that transforms it into Capture. Locke IS useful when you want to steal rare items from certain enemies, but other than that, he's mainly just a not-too-strong physical fighter.

Note, however, I'm not one of those people who throws the genji glove, offering, illumina, and atma weapon on Locke, in which case he'd probably be my most powerful physical attack character. Then again, I just don't use (or even get) the Ragnarok or Illumina, period, and I prefer to equip the AtmaWeapon onto someone with more HP, nor do I bother to worry about stat bonuses.

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Posted: 27th September 2006 19:00
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Quote (Glenn Magus Harvey @ 27th September 2006 13:36)
but I can understand Locke.  I never found him that useful--all he really has is a physical attack, apart from magic. 

Locke has the best speed in the game. Shadow's is two points below, but in comparison, Locke wins. Yes, he doesn't have good magic, but keep in mind he's not an esper;he's merely a human just like Cyan, Edgar, Sabin, Setzer, and even Shadow even though for an odd reason Shadow has good magic.

Also, Locke had the Mirager desparation attack, which deals alot of damage and makes up for being an initially weak character.

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Locke IS useful when you want to steal rare items from certain enemies, but other than that, he's mainly just a not-too-strong physical fighter.
I always thought that the point in using thieves\"treasure hunters" was to have them steal belongings and/or escape faster, rather than just dealing super damage. But then again this is a video game in which you have to use your head to take down enemies.

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Note, however, I'm not one of those people who throws the genji glove, offering, illumina, and atma weapon on Locke, in which case he'd probably be my most powerful physical attack character.
Have you ever got the Hawk Eyes or even the Valiant Knife? The Hawk Eyes really own in the Burning House at Thamasa (Locke starts upping his strength above 1000-1500 a hit and when he tosses the long range weapon, it deals higher damage.). As for the Valiant Knife, Locke doesn't always have to have reduced HP to deal more damage, because once he has over 6000-8000 HP, he'll start spamming 7000-9999's a hit without even any relics or stat boosts supported by espers.
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Posted: 29th September 2006 04:31

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all he really has is a physical attack, apart from magic.

What do you mean he doesn't have good magic? Every time I've played the game, he's always been one of my better magic users. It could be that you guys are analyzing the overall magic power. In that case, I wouldn't know. All I know is he's always been one of my best characters. He's really good when you give him a Genji Glove and 2 Wing Edges. You guys oughta try it! It's fun AND effective!! biggrin.gif

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Posted: 29th September 2006 05:45

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What do you mean he doesn't have good magic?


I do NOT mean he doesn't have good magic. I meant that I was talking solely about his abilities other than magic. Because other than magic, you can Fight, Steal, or Capture (or use Item, but that is like a given for everyone except Gogo), and thus the only way he can deal more damage is by equipping more powerful weapons, unlike Shadow's defense-ignoring Throw command, Sabin's powerful Blitzes, and Strago's varied Lores.

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Posted: 29th September 2006 14:55

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-Gau. My least favorite character in the game. He reminds me of Quina. Annoying character, annoying abilities.
-Umaro. Never really used him before.
-Sabin. I. Hate. Blitz.
-Setzer. Dunno why, I just don't really care for this character.
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Posted: 29th September 2006 15:46

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What do you mean he doesn't have good magic?


I do NOT mean he doesn't have good magic. I meant that I was talking solely about his abilities other than magic. Because other than magic, you can Fight, Steal, or Capture (or use Item, but that is like a given for everyone except Gogo), and thus the only way he can deal more damage is by equipping more powerful weapons, unlike Shadow's defense-ignoring Throw command, Sabin's powerful Blitzes, and Strago's varied Lores.

Sorry! I must have misunderstood you. At least someone agrees that Locke has his good points.

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Posted: 29th September 2006 16:59

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Relm- I never found draw useful, since I never got a fake mustache

Strago- Could never get good lores, and remember, no mustache

Cyan-Takes too long with Swd Tech

Mog- His dances rock...when they work. And I seem to always be unlucky with that.

I used to not use Locke alot despite me always liking him as a character, but this time around I made sure to give him the items that increase steal% and give him capture. This limits his fighting power, but has saved me money (not like that's really needed) and gave me awsome rare items, (my favorite steal was my second favorite tool, after the drill Debiliatator tool from one of the cranes). Plus, he makes it much eaiser to avoid battles.

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Relm: Sure, she can be a great magic user with the proper leveling, but I tend to stick to the fight command in most battles. I really hate sketch; it never does anything useful.

Cyan: I love Cyan, but he's slow as heck. What's the point of having someone in your party who never gets to go?

Gogo: I'd rather have someone who can do one thing well than everything poorly.

Terra: I just don't like her. She's whiny, and Celes is better at everything.

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