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I know that the game isn't very popular but don't you think it has 'make-me-a-movie' written all over it? It would suit becoming a movie so well and would be popular by many people due to the love-story aspect. Infact I might strongly-dislike the game but if it were a movie I'd reckon I'd love the movie.

Has anyone else thought the same or similar? I just wish they did that instead of FFVII: AC (which lacked strongly in storyline) and wasn't the most interesting of movies that I've seen.

Any thoughts?

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The problem with making any of the existing FF storylines into a movie, I feel, is that you have a couple of hours to get through all the dialogue you find in the game, while still fitting in your obligatory fight sequences and special effects magic.

Perhaps FF8 would indeed work better because they could just throw away most of the second disc.

I think you're right that it does have more of a movie-type feel to it and would probably make a better transition to that medium than some of the other games.

Yeah an FF8 movie would be far more safe than doing a 7 movie AC. FF7 is liked more than 8 and if 8 isn't a huge success then people won't be dissapointed because the game wasn't that good but doing a 7 film like they did can spoil the game so 8 would be much more suited.

AC wasn't that bad but it did spoil the game a lot. An 8 film would be much safer.

I'm definitly for any FF film.

No, fitting the ~30 hours people took to play the game and trying to jam it into one movie just wouldn't work. I liked FFVIII as a game, not a movie.

A series on the other hand...would be interesting.

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Actually, a movie about the FFVIII game itself can't be done without practically copying the game with some Hollywood touches. I'd much rather enjoy a FFVIII movie based on the distant past or the Sorceress War of 17 years prior.

For the benefit of those who wouldn't see it without Squall and gang, they would have to do it in a manner similar to AC, though I prolly wouldn't like it. Like Zeromus said, I prefer FFVIII to be (and stay) on my home console and not on the big, silver screen.

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For FFVIII to have a movie, the game would need a plot, or else it would just be another mindless movie. It would also need characters that didn't suck beyond all reasoning that would have personalities and traits we could really identify with, so we can either hate them or love them for the right reasons, rather than because they're mindless walking stereotypes. It would probably take just as long, if not longer to make as Advent Children did and considering Square only did it to capitalize on the mega-popularity and fanbase that Final Fantasy VII has, there's really no chance Square would do the same for VIII, which is probably the worst game they've ever released to the public.

All in all, no, they should not make an VIII movie, it doesn't have many cinematic qualities other than flashly effects and feeble attempts at dramatic cliffhangers at the end of every disc.

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I would say more of an FFIV movie directed by Peter Jackson and starring Russel Crowe and Naomi Watts. -CSM

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I think an animated movie of FF5 with an old school anime theme would be pretty cool. If FFVIII becomes a movie, I won't watch it. The plot and characters were uninteresting and that means that I'm never playing through the game again.

If people didn't like the game chances are they wouldn't like the movie, so it would be a waste of $$$. It would probably be a bigger failure then other movies like...uhh whats its called? Oh stealth. They payed millions but only made around 11 million.

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For FFVIII to have a movie, the game would need a plot, or else it would just be another mindless movie. It would also need characters that didn't suck beyond all reasoning that would have personalities and traits we could really identify with, so we can either hate them or love them for the right reasons, rather than because they're mindless walking stereotypes. It would probably take just as long, if not longer to make as Advent Children did and considering Square only did it to capitalize on the mega-popularity and fanbase that Final Fantasy VII has, there's really no chance Square would do the same for VIII, which is probably the worst game they've ever released to the public.

All in all, no, they should not make an VIII movie...

The game does have a plot you must have missed it. Why it is a poor plot (in my opinion) many people like the love-story and Square was putting their skills to the limit by creating something new rather than what they'd done to the last seven FF's. Most of the old FF's were all about an evil empire or crystals so I supposed Square wanted to be more original for a change - and when they do people complain because they aren't getting a repeat of the FF before.

I agree when you say the characters sucked, because IMO they did.

Here's where your post ruins itself...

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...worst game they've ever released to the public...

So I'll correct you by saying: Least popular game they've ever released to the public. Which stills isn't true IMO. There are many sites that praise VIII and it always has a forum on FF fan sites - however you don't see the older ones getting put there all the time. So is that to say FFI-FFVI are the less popular ones... no, no, no...

I myself am not a fan of FFVIII but I think that if they did make a movie it'd be worth a watch as it have 'make-me-a-movie' written all over it. There is a huge problem in that you'd be squishing 30 hours of gameplay into a mere 4 hours (at max - but 2 hours seems more reasonable). Like someone said above a series of it would work better.

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Heh, awesome.

Still, the reason FFVII got a movie (and a whole dang compilation) is because it really is the most popular FF to fans around the world. FFVIII was commercially popular (i.e., it sold well), but they all did, and not to the magnitude of VII. SE needs milk money.

And like I said earlier, it just wouldn't work cramming all that info into one 3-hour movie. Still, a series or something would be pretty awesome.

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I know that the game isn't very popular but don't you think it has 'make-me-a-movie' written all over it?

Only in the deepest regions of Hell. and they probably play it non-stop along with Police Academy 32: We've made more movies than Rocky.

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So is that to say FFI-FFVI are the less popular ones.

Actually, FFVI is the second most popular Final Fantasy to FFVII according to a Gamefaqs poll. FFIV was considered the best in the series by IGN, with FFVI being second again.

Also, note that, when people play the older games (many of them don't put forums for them because they don't know about them, or people who play the older games don't like discussion boards), the games often receive less criticism. I have yet to hear anyone criticize FFIV yet. FFI's main criticism is that it's too hard, and FFVI's is that it's too easy. I still don't here anyone criticizing their plots, and, in fact, I think they'd make better movies (not to say FFVIII won't, but FFIV and FFVI would fit more into the mold of an FF movie that I think would be nice, meaning a Peter Jackson LOTR-style film, something I think only the first seven installments fit. Yes, even FFVII could do it, starring Ice-T and George Clooney. FFVIII can't really). -CSM

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Id love nething that has to do with final fantasy so yeh i think it would be cool.
although there are many problems to do this like jaming alot of the game in and only putting the esential parts. i also think its quite a realistic.

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I couldn't read that post very well Blazing Blaze but I could make out realistic. Are you saying that FFVIII suits a movie due to how it is very realistic? I agree if that is what you meant. So any viewer could understand FFVIII's movie quite well - even if they haven't played the game or heard of the Final Fantasy series.

FFVIII is probably the most 'un-fantasyish' of the Final Fantasy and that's what made some people love it and some people hate it.

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So any viewer could understand FFVIII's movie quite well

for people to understand 8 they would have to tremove anything about Sorceresses, Garden, SeeD, Snipers, NorG, Drawpoints, gunblades, Monsters origonating from the moon, Squall, Zell, Rinoa, and Time Compression.

which should leave us with Laguna and Co.

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yeh sry for the dodgy post. what Xig Xag said pretty much sums up what i wanted to say.

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FF8 wasnt liked enough for a movie, I personaly think FF7-current ones are over rated cause of the gfxs. Why cant they make a FF5 movie or 1? Why havent you thought of that huh. Cause the gfxs arent great so you dont think about a movie for them but they were great. I think a FF5 or 6 movie would be better then a 8 since the first 5 FFs have more fans.

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FFI would be difficult to make into a live-action thriller (which is what I'm assuming we're making all the FFs into now). It is too much of a game and not enough story (which is a good thing for real gamers). The best thing I could think of with FFI is an animated comedy based off 8-Bit Theater. -CSM

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Maybe in the sense that most video game movies butcher the plot of the game, and FFVIII's plot is begging to be brutally put to death?

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Why cant they make a FF5 movie or 1? Why havent you thought of that huh. Cause the gfxs arent great so you dont think about a movie for them but they were great.

Haha. I suppose you just wanted me to think what you are implying that I'm thinking. Well this is how I thought of FFVIII becoming a movie. After playing FFV I thought to myself (it is my favourite Final Fantasy - yet you question me thinking about a movie made from it ) that this could be made a movie to get more people to view/play FFV and go through the story - and mainly enjoy themselves of course.

Then I thought more logically at how exciting a movie of FFV would be.... not as exciting as FFVIII with the war approach it has.

I hate FFVIII - I hate so much, the war is such a stupid idea for a Final Fantasy game (sure they have been done before but you didn't act them out). It was a tense game, but... it was a war. However this is perfect for an animated action movie. And would be really interesting and exciting, and I know for sure that if there were a movie of it I'd like it, and try and forget there was ever a game (although the game has it's moments).

Sorry, if I'm repeating myself but I'm trying to get my opinion across without dragging on this thread with people constantly saying things like:

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Why cant they make a FF5 movie or 1? Why havent you thought of that huh.

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For FFVIII to have a movie, the game would need a plot, or else it would just be another mindless movie. It would also need characters that didn't suck beyond all reasoning that would have personalities and traits we could really identify with, so we can either hate them or love them for the right reasons, rather than because they're mindless walking stereotypes. It would probably take just as long, if not longer to make as Advent Children did and considering Square only did it to capitalize on the mega-popularity and fanbase that Final Fantasy VII has, there's really no chance Square would do the same for VIII, which is probably the worst game they've ever released to the public.

All in all, no, they should not make an VIII movie, it doesn't have many cinematic qualities other than flashly effects and feeble attempts at dramatic cliffhangers at the end of every disc.

Um...I dunno where you've been, but FF8 has a plot. A diluted, kind of weird plot, but a plot none the less. And actually, the characters don't suck so much, it's that they're diverse and different from most people. 'Course, you don't see akid who questions existance (Vivi) or vampiric snipers (Vincent) every day, either.

Actually, I think that FF8's characters are more real than 7's.

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Um...I dunno where you've been, but FF8 has a plot.

Two words: Time Compression.

If that's not enough to seal the deal, here's a single word that sum up everything that's cliché, wrong, and badly made about FF8...

ORPHANS.

I rest my case.

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Look, this isn't here for you all to dish out your little FFVIII-hate thing so many of you have going on. I think it's pretty ridiculous to let two whole things keep you from enjoying something, but whatever, you can do what you want. FFVIII wasn't any more 'cliche' than any of the other FFs.

Now, although this will probably never happen (FFVIII isn't as worldwide popular as FFVII, so it isn't getting the Compilation treatment), I keep going over the idea of a series. However, an AC-esque movie would also look pretty interesting as well. Granted, it obviously wouldn't have the same detail as the game, but you can't cram 30+ hours of gameplay into a 2-hour movie. I imagine it'd just be some fight scenes, and whatever new villain they can cook up. (Although thinking of what other villain could possibly emerge from the FFVIII world is pretty confusing...I thought they wrapped up everything nicely.) Probably some sort of sorceress, if they couldn't think of anything else.

But anyway, that's what fanfiction is for. =3

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I'm no FFVIII lover, but I think it could make a decent flick if they left off anything regarding extra sorceresses and time compression. That stuff wasn't detailed in the game, so it wouldn't make the transition well (to fans who don't want hollow concepts, that is). The plot can be revamped a little to make it better, I s'pose. It'd have to be a long movie, though, or I wouldn't watch it (4 hrs. +). The whole idea of condensing a game into a movie SUCKS, because when all the ideas won't fit, the scenes are wasted. I wouldn't want to see a bunch of fighting scenes just to hold my attention.

I remember seeing some girl on the GameFAQs boards who looked exactly like Rinoa, though...can't remember her name. =/

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This thread has headed in the opposite direction I was expecting. Instead of discussing the idea of having a movie made from FFVIII people are being ignorant and just saying their opinion on the game. *sigh* Those who have done so probably won't learn so no point in me trying....

But thanks Zeromus X for turning the thread back to the subject it was intended for. Just because a few people on this site don't like the plot doesn't mean that you should say a movie of it wouldn't work. Could you not picture it working?

Yes, yes, yes, I'm not trying to change your opinion. I'm just saying stay more on topic.

I agree with you Shotgunnova when you say that game from movie sucks - but something tells me it'd work so perfectly with FFVIII - where as the game IMO sucks.

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Me being a hyprocrite at the end of this post, sorry... kinda destroys the post too.

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It could work. It would require a radical overhaul of things, including characters, no, especially characters to make the purists go utterly insane and probably even a name change, but you could pitch an adaptation of FF8's script forward that could make a movie.

If it is animated traditionally, it would cost a lot, becuase I hate the jerky movements and unrealistic factors of Anime, so, assuming this adaptation pitch is mine, it demands near-photorealistic art, or decent CG.

Working titles could be Final Fantasy: SeeD, Final Fantasy: Special Ops, Final Fantasy: The Movie, or something. I'm not the name-thinker guy, I'm the scriptwriter. All I offer is a working title.

It would effectivley fall into three acts for the first movie, a bit like Full Metal Jacket. We could expand the start of the game, where Squall is just entering the final phases of his training. As much as I'd like to make Zell shoot the drill instructor and then himself at some point, though, I don't think that would work out too well.

The middle phase could be an expansion of the exam, or just the first mission, putting the exam in the first act.

The latter stage could be Squall and his team on the attempt to assassinate Edea, and it could end on a lolsequel cliffhanger.

And that's you... well, me... condensed disc 1 down to a few hours.

I think you might need to change characters and weapons though. Like make the gunblade shoot bullets and give Zell a firearm, becuase American Moviegoer will be all WTF why's that soldier not armed?

For a sequel, Disc 2 would wind up being far more action packed. After escaping the prison in the opening battle, the missiles WOULD NOT fire then, for a train can't beat an ICBM in a race. The party would divide to attack the missile base (probably Selphie, Quistis (for her extra experience) and Irvine (becuase a marksman could be useful) and warn the garden, and this is where the changes occur.

The plot is ultimately heading not for time kompression, but war between Galbadia and Esthar (Galbaldia, after failing to nuke Garden which does not lift off, decides firing off any more missiles will alert the Estharians and probably incite a retaliation). The SeeD team, armed with different wargear this time, will sabotage the base prior to the second launch (having arrived on the first launch), and get into a gunfight when trying to escape.

Squall and Co manage to contact Garden from Timber, and make their way back when they are told that the missile base was destoryed and no further missiles are on the way. They are told, however, that their comrades apparently did not escape the base.

A few days later, Galbaldian troops have moved to FH, and are also poised to attack Balamb. Squall, Zell, and a team of redshirts, along with Rinoa (who is refusing to just sit in Garden, go home, or whatever, but demands she go with the two surviving SeeD's) head for FH, and begin trying to disrupt the enemy advance. Ultimately, though, the Galbaldians capture the city, and the remaining people of Squall's team have to evacuate.

They head back to Garden, and arrive a few hours before the Galbaldians are about to attack. The end of the film sees the galbadians attack in full force: despite a warning from Esthar that such actions would be an act of imperialist conquest. Galbadia forces naval and air assaults on the island, supported by aircraft carriers and naval bombardment. SeeD and Balamb's defence force fight to defend the main town and the garden itself, everywhere else abandoned in an attempt to ensure the galbadians don't just tear apart the spread out defences. The second movie ends apparently with Galbaldia mere moments from victory.

The third opens with the Estharian army landing via the Ragnarok-class of dropships, and together, SeeD and Esthar drive out the Galbaldians. Esthar's navy arrives also, and the Estharians announce that they are liberating FH as well. SeeD is told that Edea must be eliminated.

A task force of Estharian special forces and SeeD are to be dispatched, and the end of all that could be whatever revelation you like, be it the Edea revelation, the "I am your father" from the president, or some dramatic end, like a survivor from the missile base mission is a traitor.

Whatever climatic battle there is, it should end with Edea dead, Galbaldia surrendering, and the world returning to normal.

There, three hundred times better than the dross that was!




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IF they made an FFVIII, split it into mutilple movies, like LOTR for instance. BUt thats me.

Okay - a bit rude of me to ask people to submit ideas when I haven't even submitted one.

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FFVIII would have to be a series. No real doubt about it. To try and cram a 40 hour game into less than 4 hours is... definetely a challenge. An impossible challenge.

So it would be a series of three, five, six, or ten parts. Best bet is three.

In the first (Final Fantasy VIII - Edea's Parade) the events would be:

Opening Credits (The scene where Squall and Seifer get their scars - taken directly from the game)
SeeD Test (Goes straight on to the attack on Dollet)
SeeD Party (If they ignored the 'Waltz for the Moon' scene it wouldn't be FFVIII)
Timber Train Mission (This'd take a good 20 - 30 minutes of the first movie's length due to how exaggerated Square would make it)
Edea's Parade (The main part of the first part, of course! They simply need to sniper Edea... and when that fails...)

The second (Final Fantasy VIII - The War) would continue with:

Prison (They escape - no time to waste in the movie)
Missile Base/Garden Return (It wouldn't actually show the missile base but it'd focus more on Garden's events)
The War (The war between Galbadia and Balamb initiates after witnessing the remains of Tri [the other garden?])

The third (Final Fantasy VIII - ????):

Balamb Garden (Helps viewer understand the events of the second 'episode' in a way where it focus' on Rinoa)
Road to Esthar (They head on over to Esthar - the trials on the way will just be glismped)
Entering Esthar (A chance for Square to actually show off some graphics)
Space (They do the whole space thing breifly and have the Lunar Cry happen)
Raganarok (They keep the sweetest moment in FFVIII there with the landing of the Raganarok and the abduction of Rinoa and then her release)
'I'll be Waiting' (If they didn't keep this it'd be stupid)

The fourth and final (Final Fantasy VIII - Time Kompression):

Presdential Residence (Laguna and Squall meet up and the plot is put together to make sense)
Lunar Pandora [Is that what it's called?] (They make their way in there to defeat Adel and put everything in action)
Time Kompression (Time Kompression takes place? Or does it.... See this is one reason why I didn't like the plot of FFVIII)
Ultimecia's Castle (They make their way to her [it isn't so annoying like in the game - they simply make their way toward her] and defeat her)
Squall's Death (Like in the game Squall dies.... lost in the Time Kompression)

I really wouldn't know how to conclude the movie though.....

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Obviously they would have to do massive amounts of cutting. And let's be honest here, they would not make this a multi-part movie. Even AC, based on their MOST popular FF, was quite short and a single-part movie. FF8 met with a rather mediocre success, which should even LESS of a reason for Square to want to invest into making it big and long (let's use AC as a reference point... you can draw your own conclusions in no time at all, I'm sure.)

To fit this into an hour and a half, they would have to slice up the plot heavily. There's no way in hell they can put everything in there - that's an unrealistic expectation, as much as I'm sure purists would want to have it. They would probably have to cut lesser characters, too, in order to reduce the amount of storyline "work" necessary, maybe even narrowing it down to Squall and Seifer, with brief appearances by other characters; for instance a scene with Irvine and Edea. FF7 only had Cloud and Tifa play any important role out of the 7 main playable characters - the rest either got breif spots, or one scene where everyone was present as little more than fanservice.

The entire Laguna side-plot would be cut. Perhaps Laguna could be dropped entirely, in fact. Selphie, Quistis, and Zell could be dropped entirely. They could cut Irvine out too if they jigged around with the assassination scene. This would leave only the more essential characters, Squall, Edea, Seifer, and Rinoa (the game's theme WAS love, after all...) This would, ideally, remove all traces of an absolutely sorry-ass excuse for a plot device everyone should be familiar with, shorten the storyline enough to condense it into an hour and a half, and it might actually work out.

It goes without saying that Square should also drop the Ultimecia bit. Let's face it, that was just... not a very good idea. Seriously. And frankly, by removing Laguna/Elleone, it'd be hard to work her into things. She isn't necessary to have a storyline, especially if Edea is tweaked ever-so-slightly (corrupt by her sorceress powers instead of being... ahem... controlled by Ultimecia, for instance.)

Personally, I'd sooner see FFIV or VI in movie format, though.

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