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what is Elidibs?
I mean is he a Zodiac Brave that the world didn't know about?
think about it there is only twelve animals to the real Zodiac so why add one
just wondeing if you were able to invite him would you or wouldn't you and why?

personaly I would for the reason that is he has his own zodiac symbol that got to be worth keeping.

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Quote (Final Fantasy Compendium's Zodiac Brave Story Timeline)

Deep Dungeon Subquest
# In Warjilis Trade City, Ramza overhears a conversation about an ancient lighthouse called Deep Dungeon. The Dungeon holds lots of amazing treasure, and is home to many dangerous monsters. The Dungeon has ten levels, each harder than the next. When Ramza finally fights his way to the final level, he is confronted by another surprise: the wizard Elidibs. Elidibs (a former graduate of Gariland Military Academy who fought for Ivalice in the Fifty Year War) has yet another Zodiac Stone, Serpentarius. He transforms into a Lucavi demon and attacks Ramza. Ramza (aided by a mysterious monster called a Byblos) defeats Elidibs and takes his Serpentarius Stone.

So, I guess. I'm not an expert in FFT lore.

Enlighten yourself.

Edit: Final Fantasy IX also has a thirteenth hidden Stellazio coin, Serpentarius (if I recall), which is most likely homage to this game. Zodiac, the thirteenth Esper of Final Fantasy XII, is the summon of Serpentarius.

This post has been edited by Zeromus_X on 20th September 2006 00:38

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Zeromus pretty much nailed it. Elidibs was a hero and great wizard that emerged during the 50 Years War. He hailed from Gariland Magic City.

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Not to contradict Zeromus, and I don't believe that I am, but it seems that the Zodiac Braves were defined by using Zodiac Stones, and since Elidibs has a Zodiac Stone, I think that makes him a Zodiac Brave. This is only my theory based on simple logic, if anyone one can prove me wrong, go ahead.

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Weren't the 'Zodiac Braves' in the past really the Lucavi? (Or something?) It isn't like I'm knowledgable at this game, I just found that timeline and thought it was interesting. I have no clue how reliable a source of information it is (I don't have Elidibs in my Brave Story characters section, as that would mean actually going through that entire dreaded dungeon. )

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Yes, the Zodiac Braves in the past were Lucavi according to the Germonik Scriptures, and on the this site Elidibs is listed as a Lucavi, so that's where our interpretations cross. The original Zodiac Braves/Lucavi were never named in the game, so we can only assume that the seven(including Elidibs) we see are the same demons from the past, and we have no idea who the rest were. Also I'm not sure if the number was explicitly stated or simply implied based on our understanding of the Zodiac containing twelve signs. The existence of Serpentarius suggests there may actually be more Zodiac Stones and just as many Lucavi/Zodiac Braves.

Zeromus, have you even tried Deep Dungeon? I only went as far as level 8,(I didn't find thenext door) but it didn't seem that hard. I'm sure Elidibs is tough but with Byblos and Orlandu, and Ultima, I bet I can beat him on my next time through. The hard part isn't beating Elidibs, it's learning Zodiac and surviving that's difficult. BTW, if you didn't already know, Zodiac is one of only two mighty spells that is learned by being hit by it, and you have to be a summoner, so you head into battle with low HP, low defense, and limited offense (once MP is spent you have to whack him with a rod), and you have to survive one of the most devastating attacks and still kill the what may be the most poweful enemy in the whole game.

This post has been edited by Wedge Highwind on 21st September 2006 13:32

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I, actually didn't find Elidibs to be too hard, but rather time-consuming with his allies, trying to find the hidden items (I think I missed between 1-3 but I know I got at least one of 'em), as well as trying to learn Zodiac (which I didn't), but that battle I didn't really HAVE to re-try after staring at the "Game Over" screen.

To learn Zodiac, what I'll try to do next is have my Summoner with MP Switch reaction ability and Magic Defend Up support. One question I'll ask concerning that is if Magic Defend Up should be replaced with Equip Armor instead?

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Actually, I think no one has mentioned yet that there is a 13th Zodiacal constellation that is laregly not counted as a sign of the zodiac: Ophiuchus, AKA Serpentarius. It's not counted because it's only there for a small period of time compared to the other 12.

That could account for this. I've never played FFT and probably never will because of lack of a european release, but a 13th object with relation to something zodiac but not counted for some odd reason... Come on.

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Del, I checked that link and since it says there is in fact a Zodiac known as Serpentarius, I imagine Square did more research and it is the answer to this mystery. Nice work, Del. As a result I retract my statement of many more Zodiac stones, it's probably just these 13.

Freebird, for the purpose of gaining protection from the Zodiac summon spell, I'm going to say stick with Magic Defend Up. Equip Armor sounds good, but the armor it allows only increases physical defense, so it's not going to help very much, which is to say not at all. Of course, there is armor that protects from magic, but it is meant for magic casting classes and can be equipped without Equip Armor.

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okay, for one the zodiac braves are an oranization - so eledibs is technically not one. And as to who he is, not much is known except what you all have already stated: a great wizard of the 50 year war who apparantly came upon a zodiac stone, and was at some point in time in need of it's powers - and lacked the pureness of heart, and therefore turned into a lucavi. And no, the Zodiac braves of legend weren't Lucavi - and the stones aren't evil. This is discovered when Rafa calls malak back to life. The stones' reaction depends on the purity of the user. So I would assume that the original Zodiac braves were indeed just pure individuals - who faught lucavi (who could have had one of the stones himself - seeing as how there are 13 stones and 11 braves). And the Germonik scriptures talk about Ajora being nothing more than a man, and not being as pure and holy as everyone the legends say, i don't believe there was any mention of the zodiac braves, in fact I don't think they were even in the same time period.

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