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How do you spell Aeris/Aerith, and why do you prefer such?


I personally prefer "Aeris" because it sounds more like a real name. Squenix has long had a problem with unrealistic names...

(Apologies if this topic has been done before, but I couldn't find such.)

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i spell it aeris because aerith sounds really unnatural.

funny thing, they call her aeris in the us FF VII but aerith in KH (im pretty sure)

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Aerith, as it's Square's official name.

I find it to be a prettier name, anyway.

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funny thing, they call her aeris in the us FF VII but aerith in KH (im pretty sure)

Yes, they corrected that in Kingdom Hearts. Unfortunately, the genius that Selphie is in Kingdom Hearts II mispronounces 'Tidus'...go figure.

Edit: Who would pronounce it as 'anything else'? There are only two pronunciations that I've ever seen, taking no mind of the people that say 'Aries'.

This post has been edited by Zeromus_X on 6th August 2006 15:59

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Aeris. IIRC, the kana for the last syllable is "su." I heard the "th" sound is indistinguishable from this in Japanese, like "l" and "r," and that's the only reason for the confusion.

Yes, that's it. Of course, they mistranslated 'North Pole' as 'Knowlespole', so I guess it isn't all that big a deal, in the long run.

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I prefer Aeris since it does sound inproper.
But i used to spell it like Aeries

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I say Aeris because that's what her name was when I played the game and I think it sounds better than Aerith and that whole kana thing makes sense too. And to add, I don't change other changed FF names back to their "original Japanese" because sometimes I don't like the original Japanese names. Like, I think Terra sounds better than Tina and Sabin sounds better than Mash.

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I spell it Aeris, because that is the name in the U.S. version. I always found it a bit pretentious to use the Japanese names when there is an official U.S. translation.

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Aerith, as it's Square's official name.

Personally, official be damned, what I'm putting down is whatever the hell I think it should be and damn the torpedoes. They could easily have cheated and claimed that one name was Cetra and the other was the Midgarianised version.

But no. That would resolve issues.

I regard Aeris as the Midgariansed version, and since Aerith just sounds odd, it's the Cetra word.

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Official is whatever the creators of the game decided they wanted to name their characters. Not that it really matters in this case, as it's pretty much the same name. You'll also notice I said I actually liked the name 'Aerith' better aesthetically than just citing the official name as a reason why I liked it. I don't really care what everyone else calls her, but when people claim a certain name is the correct name when it clearly isn't, that is incorrect.

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Aeris, Aerith sounds like something a little girl with a lisp would say. aeris sounds more like a functional name, and it has a double meaning with her being the last ancient and all. I don't know why they bothered to change Aeris's name to Aerith in KH (another reason to dislike KH). I mean they might as well have changed Sabin's name to mash/matt in FFanthology. But people like the name Sabin it sounds much more natural to english-speaking countries(except for Matt, but Matt Rene Figaro sounds odd), just like Aeris over Aerith. There was no reason to make a switch to Aerith.

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They didn't 'switch' to Aerith. They 'switched' from Aerith to Aeris due to a small translation error (among many others). It isn't all that hard to say without a lisp.

Though yes, it is easier for most people to say 'Aeris' or 'Sabin' as they're used to that name anyway.

They didn't change his name back to Mash because they pretty much re-used the Woosley script (with some minor tweaks). And because everyone would have a fit because it isn't the name everyone's used to because nostalgia always gets in the way of a proper re-translation.

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They didn't 'switch' to Aerith. They 'switched' from Aerith to Aeris due to a small translation error (among many others). It isn't all that hard to say without a lisp.

Actually, I do not think that there is a real difference between the th and s sounds in the Japanese language; for the same or similar reasons you see lots of mixing up of r and l sounds (as in Cless vs. Cress) and f, b, and v sounds (I am not quite as sure about that one, though). Aerith and Aeris are essentially the same name, so it is quite probable that early on the official (yes, official) English translators used a different interpretation of the written Japanese in the first version of Final Fantasy VII. It is simply how it happened.

And no offense, but your determination to stick to the original Japanese names of every character in every video game is kind of ridiculous. I mean, I know you are trying to be a hardcore Fainaru Fantaji fan and such, but is it really that important to you?

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Um. I call her "Amistad," because it's Spanish for Friendship. So yeah.

But if I were to stick with one, I'd go with "Aries," like the zodiac sign because it's much much cooler

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They didn't change his name back to Mash because they pretty much re-used the Woosley script (with some minor tweaks). And because everyone would have a fit because it isn't the name everyone's used to because nostalgia always gets in the way of a proper re-translation.

does proper translation of names even matter, i know there are several videogames where characters names were changed to more American names for American audiences (and how about Claude in France)

If the videogames characters have the names;
Asa
Amayo
Chika
Gen
Hide
Koko
Koto
Mitsu

Wouldn't you rather have Names like Sabin and Barret.

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Actually, I do not think that there is a real difference between the th and s sounds in the Japanese language; for the same or similar reasons you see lots of mixing up of r and l sounds (as in Cless vs. Cress) and f, b, and v sounds (I am not quite as sure about that one, though). Aerith and Aeris are essentially the same name, so it is quite probable that early on the official (yes, official) English translators used a different interpretation of the written Japanese in the first version of Final Fantasy VII. It is simply how it happened.

That is true. But when the name is in plain english (usually on merchandise and what-not) it's pretty hard to make a mistake regarding that.

Yes, the b and v sounds are the same.

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And no offense, but your determination to stick to the original Japanese names of every character in every video game is kind of ridiculous. I mean, I know you are trying to be a hardcore Fainaru Fantaji fan and such, but is it really that important to you?

It has nothing to do with being a 'hardcore fan' at all. It has to do with using the proper name that the creators of the character (s) gave to them. (Which, usually, are in plain english to begin with, so there's little room for error.) Like I also said before, I don't care what everyone else uses. I use what I want to use, and everyone else does the same. I'm merely correcting people who are blatantly mistaken. If I come off as offensive or 'hardcore', or whateve, then I apologize.

Edit: To summarize, so my fingers don't go numb on me:

I don't care what people use, but if people use it improperly without acknowledging that it's wrong, I feel the need to correct them. If you were the creator of a character in a game, then you'd probably feel strange visiting someone from another country who insistst that their spelling/pronunciation is the correct one when they're obviously wrong and had no part in the creation of said game/characters. That's all.

This post has been edited by Zeromus_X on 6th August 2006 22:06

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If you couldn't find it, it was probably one of the threads deleted for an unknown reason.

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They weren't deleted. Just because they were lost doesn't mean we had some nefarious reason for it - things happen. -R51

As for me, I spell it エアリス (earisu). Sooooo much simple; how can you go wrong with the original japanese name?

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They didn't 'switch' to Aerith. They 'switched' from Aerith to Aeris due to a small translation error (among many others). It isn't all that hard to say without a lisp.

Actually, I do not think that there is a real difference between the th and s sounds in the Japanese language; for the same or similar reasons you see lots of mixing up of r and l sounds (as in Cless vs. Cress) and f, b, and v sounds (I am not quite as sure about that one, though). Aerith and Aeris are essentially the same name,

I think the final kana for Sephiroth's name is also "su," so Laz has a point.

I'm actually talking about the spelling of the name. In english. Yes, in Japanese, there wouldn't really be a difference. But in english you would still pronounce it the proper way anyway.

And yes, I know that. I think I acknowledged that.

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I'm actually talking about the spelling of the name. In english. Yes, in Japanese, there wouldn't really be a difference. But in english you would still pronounce it the proper way anyway.

I consider the proper way to be the way the game I own presents it. I don't really give a damn about how it is in the Japanese version. So I choose "Aeris" and don't care much about alternatives because it's not worth thinking further about.

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I go for Aeris as the alternative makes one have a momentary lisp. "Heiress" sounds far more prettier, if ya ask me.

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They weren't deleted. Just because they were lost doesn't mean we had some nefarious reason for it - things happen. -R51

As for me, I spell it エアリス (earisu). Sooooo much simple; how can you go wrong with the original japanese name?

if you have a japanese language pack, that is

Aeris for me. rolls off the tongue better. Aerith makes me feel like i have a lisp. plus, that's how the game spells. THE GAME TELLS US!

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Yeah Aeris all the way. I like some of Squaresofts mistranslations, it gives the game more of a "fantasy" feel. Like Touph Ring and Ungarmax - it doesn't have to be realistic to be good.

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"Heiress" sounds far more prettier, if ya ask me.

I also pronounce it "heiress." I just thought of it, but I wonder if the English spelling of Aeris is intended to be a play on words. After all, Aeris could be considered the heiress of the Cetra civilization.

I'm just speculating, though. It's probably a coincidence.

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Aeris. I don't like the name "Aerith." Also, I've never played Kingdom Hearts, so it would be weird calling her something besides Aeris.

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"Heiress" sounds far more prettier, if ya ask me.

I also pronounce it "heiress." I just thought of it, but I wonder if the English spelling of Aeris is intended to be a play on words. After all, Aeris could be considered the heiress of the Cetra civilization.

I'm just speculating, though. It's probably a coincidence.

I've also heard things like that. It's pretty interesting, to me. (Both names she has have some sort of symbolism people have made up).

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I mean, I know you are trying to be a hardcore Fainaru Fantaji fan and such, but is it really that important to you?

XD Dude, I know I really shouldn't laugh (and I'm definitely not trying to pick on Zeromus_x) but, you so win the internet right about now in my book... XD

So, anyhow. Here I am, in Japan, speaking Japanese on a nearly daily basis. And I most definitely prefer to use the version "Aeris" when I'm speaking in English, and playing FF7 in English. Becuase it IS "Aeris" in English. ^^

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If you were the creator of a character in a game, then you'd probably feel strange visiting someone from another country who insistst that their spelling/pronunciation is the correct one when they're obviously wrong and had no part in the creation of said game/characters. That's all.

Hmm. I'd actually have to say that I'm quite sure Sakaguchi and the FF7 team could care less about something as trivial as that. And I'm actually pretty sure that the localized name "Aeris" was quite approved. ^^;


Either way, though. I don't mean to keep that dead horse alive. I'll shut up and drink my tea now. ^^;

This post has been edited by Kurohime on 8th August 2006 08:14