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Well, um... Just felt like spamming =P So.. Um... Which challenges have you already challenged and BEATEN in FFVI??.. I've only beaten a No-Esper game FOUR times.. D'GHAAA!!!! (hey, I just thought of a new SIG!!!!!!!)

if you wouldnt mind, please post a list of all the challenges that you have found

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I've beaten the very first challenge: beating the game itself.

I've also beaten "no Ultima spamming on final boss" and "Umaro as last character standing vs. Kefka", the latter serendipitously.

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More canon challenges:

Low Level Game (LLG)
No Magic Game (NMG)
Speed Run
Beating the game while recruiting only the three mandatory characters in the WoR, Celes, Edgar and Setzer (CES Challenge)
Single Character Challenge (SCC). The standard SCC also means teaching no Magic.

Any combination of the above. Other challenges have been tried/done with less popularity; an Imp-only challenge, a challenge to get the lowest amount of steps. You can invent your own challenge in a single minute; the above are merely the more popular ones.



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I remember one of my friends did a 4-character challenge, only playing as Terra, Celes, Sabin, and Locke the entire game, allowing for a full final party and at least one person in your party for every fight in the game. I dunno how one would do an SCC properly when you never have any particular character in your party for the entire game, but I was impressed.

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I guess you could also include the "Initial Equip Only" challenge, where you can't change equipment the entire game. Umaro = your best friend in this challenge.

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When I was eight I beat the world of balance at level nine the first time and I beat the game around level twenty four. I ran away from many battles, I never liked to battle or level much, when I was younger I never really had the patience for it.

God, I remember it like it was yesterday. I was in third grade and I had three days of school left. Each day it took me to pretty much defeat a goddess and on the final day I finally defeated Kefka.

All my other characters were around level nine. Only four characters were leveled up decently.

Gogo
Edgar
Sabin
Gau

Were my only heros who were around level 24.

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I've done a CES challenge; it's not too difficult and makes a nice change of pace.

Djibriel, isn't a NMG more usually a natural magic game? (I.e., no Espers, and no learning spells through equipment, but Terra, Celes, Strago, and Gau's inherent magical skills are OK). I've done that one.

I've also heard of a No Equipment Game (NEG).
Let's call the imp-only challenge an IOC.

And you can always combine various challenges:
No equipment/natural magic game (NENMG)
Low level/natural magic game (LLNMG)
LLNENMG (for the hardcore player)
LLNECESNMG (for the masochistic player)
LLNEIOCCESNMG (this would be insanely difficult)
LLNESCCIOC (this would just be a waste of time)

Last time I played, I tried what I call the PARMAX challenge, which translates roughly to "use PAR to MAX out your equipment, stats and magic" at the start of the game. Ok, so it's the opposite of a challenge, but I'm sure everyone's done this at least once.

As for real challenges, has anyone tried i90east's Expert Version? If there's anyone out there who can complete a CES challenge on that, then you're a better man than I am.

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Djibriel, isn't a NMG more usually a natural magic game?

I've heard it labeled by both names, but I suppose 'natural magic game' is more precise as naturally learned magic is allowed.

For the record, as far as I know, I'm the one who invented the IOC and the only one thus far to complete it....it was too silly to write a Guide about it, though.

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Well, I've beaten FF6 too many times.

I've done:
Regular
No Magic
Natural Magic
CES
Single Character
Low Level
No Equip
Initial Equip

And a ton of other combinations. I've also tried a Magic Only game, but that failed. The only rule I had on that one was only one character per 4 person party had Ultima. And to stay reasonably leveled.

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I cant say Ive tried any of these yet. ><;;; *still has to defeat the game the FIRST time* But some of them sound like a lot of fun! *Laughs* A few of them I can understand like low level, speed, or a few cardinal charries in the party, but others the thought of them seem a bit... wierd.

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How about a BoC? Berserker-Only Challenge.

You can only use characters who will launch into an uncontrollable attack for the duration of the battle, which means you get to use: Mog, Gau, Umaro, and Gogo (only with the Mimic/Dance/Rage commands), on the condition that Mog, Gau, and Gogo must be made to berserk as their first battle selection.

Obviously, you'll have to do certain areas of the game with other members in your party. The general guideline for this is that your berserker is the only one who may attack (if you can't have any of them in your party, regular playing goes).

A berserker-only challenge? I don't think that's feasible...

Problem #1: Only two of them are available in the WOB and the first one doesn't show up for quite awhile (not to mention ye have to find them again in the WOR).

Problem #2: There are quite a few scenarios where ye only get to use certain characters and, often times, they don't include the "berserker" ones.

Problem #3: A part of surviving battles is being able to respond to the actions of the enemies, which all other challenges allow for, at least to some degree. Since berserkers usually won't do what ye need them to do when ye need them to do it, even something as simple as damage becomes a nearly insurmountable obstacle.

Problem #4: Lastly, I actually want to play the game, not watch the game play itself.

Maybe others who know the game better than I do can add to or subtract from this list.

Funny though, I've had the game for quite a few years and I've never considered doing any of the other challenges listed in this thread. Initial equip sounds interesting enough...

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A berserker-only challenge? I don't think that's feasible...

Problem #1: Only two of them are available in the WOB and the first one doesn't show up for quite awhile (not to mention ye have to find them again in the WOR).

Problem #2: There are quite a few scenarios where ye only get to use certain characters and, often times, they don't include the "berserker" ones.

Problem #3: A part of surviving battles is being able to respond to the actions of the enemies, which all other challenges allow for, at least to some degree. Since berserkers usually won't do what ye need them to do when ye need them to do it, even something as simple as damage becomes a nearly insurmountable obstacle.

Problem #4: Lastly, I actually want to play the game, not watch the game play itself.

Maybe others who know the game better than I do can add to or subtract from this list.

Funny though, I've had the game for quite a few years and I've never considered doing any of the other challenges listed in this thread. Initial equip sounds interesting enough...

Actually, there can be quite a bit of strategy involved. See, gau's rages are far from useless, and if you know what kind of battle you'll be facing you can choose a rage that you think will be appropriate to the situation.

Similarly, if you know the effects of Mog's dances, you can choose which one to use based on the situation.

Like I said before, for situations where you can't use the berserkers, just play as per normal.

Surviving battles with only berserkers can be very, very easy if you know which rages and dances to take advantage of. Gogo adds more viability by allowing you to choose one more rage/dance to suit the situation (so that gau could rage stray cat for damage, for example, while gogo rages peepers for pearl wind and mog dances forest suite for random damage/healing effects)

A Gau SCC is fairly doable by itself, so if you have Mog to complement him and Umaro/Gogo in the WoR, you're really not looking at a very hard challenge.

See:

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Problem #1: Only two of them are available in the WOB and the first one doesn't show up for quite awhile (not to mention ye have to find them again in the WOR).

If one is enough, two is more then enough.

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Problem #2: There are quite a few scenarios where ye only get to use certain characters and, often times, they don't include the "berserker" ones.

Like with a normal SCC, you'll have to simply do those bits.

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Problem #3: A part of surviving battles is being able to respond to the actions of the enemies, which all other challenges allow for, at least to some degree. Since berserkers usually won't do what ye need them to do when ye need them to do it, even something as simple as damage becomes a nearly insurmountable obstacle.

The trick, therefor, is to choose a Rage with the highest survival ability and to choose a Dance with the nicest damage/healing combination in the battle.


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I have a challenge that I accidentaly made up a few years back, and another one that I try to attempt each time I play an RPG.

Challenge 1: No armor
Play through the game without equipping your characters with any armor. Shields ok, relics ok, hats ok. Just no body armor. obviously a variation of this would be to wear nothing that would increase your defense. (I did this when I forgot to equip Celes with armor in the WoR)

Challenge 2: No Items
Play through the game without using any Items. No potions, ethers, tents, phoenix downs, etc. Healing magic and inns ok.
Variation: Item Preservation
My variation of this is that tents and phoenix downs are the exception, which can only be used if a majority of your party is low on or at 0 hp. You can't sell the potions or ethers that you find, you can't use the items at all, including the final boss battle.

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That reminds me of one that I thought of (but never have done yet): Fight-Only game (FoG). You can't use any command other than Fight (obviously excepting the scripted battles where you have to use other commands, like Blitz vs. Vargas, etc.). For added challenge, you could add low-level and no-equips. But for me personally, it would be a no-run FoG. You can't run...ever. You must fight every battle (and never equip a Charm Bangle or Moogle Charm). Thus, levels will be gained, but only via the use of the Fight command.

Hmm... Maybe a no-run, intial-equip, Fight-only game....

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I just recently tried a new challenge: single sitting story
In one sitting (playtime w/o getting up for any reason save pottybreaks), start the game and get at least as far as off the Island where celes begins in the WoR. It is possible because I just did it.

This is kinda off topic, but I've applied this same challenge to FFVII. Get off Midgar in one sitting, without getting up period. No bathroom, no snacks in the next room, nothing. (note: obviously do this only when you haves lots of time on your hands)

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If you're going to do something like that, you might think about having a race. This type of competitive challenge is usually done with platformers, but it's been done many times with RPGs, notably FFVII. Two or more people with copies of the game, first one through it wins. However, there are two common stipulations.
1) There's no saves, so if you get game over, you're out.
2) If you feel like getting up and stretching, or going to the bathroom, you may want to reconsider - your opponents will play on.
Then, as for all such FFVI challenges, there's the All Sidequests variation, the CES variation, the no run variation, et cetera.

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This is kinda off topic, but I've applied this same challenge to FFVII. Get off Midgar in one sitting, without getting up period. No bathroom, no snacks in the next room, nothing. (note: obviously do this only when you haves lots of time on your hands)

Isn't getting out of Midgar in one sitting easy? You have:

2 bombing missions
The Aeris in the church bit
Being Aeris's bodyguard
Sneaking out
Seeing Tifa
Wall Market
The Don's
Sewers
Sector 7 Pillar
Aeris's house
Wall Market climbing wall
Shinra building
Meet Red XIII
Escape
Motorbike bit

May sound like a lot but I wrote a lot of steps I didnt need to like 'Meet Red XIII'

That's easily done in one sitting!

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This is kinda off topic, but I've applied this same challenge to FFVII. Get off Midgar in one sitting, without getting up period. No bathroom, no snacks in the next room, nothing. (note: obviously do this only when you haves lots of time on your hands)

I did an FF VII marathon once. Four PS1s in one room, everyone starts a new game at the same time, if you get a Game Over you lose, first person to see the ending credits wins. This was different than what you're talking about, because we were allowed to pause the game and leave the room or have a snack whenever we wanted to, but of course that put you at a disadvantage. The point is, just Midgar with that "challenge" isn't really much at all.

Oh, and for the record, I got second. Two of the guys underleveled and died on disc 1, and was preparing for a Northern Crater trip in Disc III when David Omnislashed the man.

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OK, the last four posts have been about FFVII. And this is the FFVI forum, which honestly you may not have noticed (I know I didn't at first).

Move it back to FFVI please.

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Well, other than beating the game itself (and, consequentially, fighting Kefka with a variety of parties) I've only completed a Natural Magic/No Esper Stat-Bonus playthrough, which I actually found alot of fun - it really added to the usefullness of particular characters, as opposed to just having a group that could spam Ultima over and over, and as a result it was interesting to see just how much my final group differed from that of a regular playthrough.

Beating the game was my first goal. Then I went on to harder ones like getting all the items in the game, scanning the game, and no magic..... thats about it!

Only one I've been able to do successfully so far is the CES challenge. Attepted an LLG, kept getting owned by the Cranes, so I gave that up.... at least for the time being. May pick back up on it sometime.

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No-esper and CES/one-esper-once. The reason I say "no esper" instead of NMG is because I some of my characters DID learn some magic from equipment, and I used some of it in the fanatics tower. Also, the reason CES was one-esper-once was because I really really really didn't want to fight the magi-master without using palidor again, so I used it.

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I have done a couple challenges in a row. If you like a good decent challenge, and some have done this challenge already, but here it goes. Have Terra as the only character you use in this game. I know there will be times you have other character with you without stopping it, but just kill them. Don't use any Espers and don't teach Terra any magic she wouldn't learn herself. Remember, you can't use any other character than Terra and don't use the Ultima spell when you get it because it will make all the battle too easy. Also, don't try to level up extravagent amounts to make the battles easy. Try to beat the whole game at the lowest level you can. Just level up enough to where you can make it though the whole game, barely! It is a pretty tough challenge and you can do this with almost any character, other character are a little different, but I recommend using Terra because you start off with her at the beggining of the game and have her pretty much the whole game.

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Let's see. I've completed the CES challenge twice, quite interesting only having three necessary people in the party. I failed attempts at LLG, I've got to try to do it again. And then, there's the SCC in my signature, which I haven't gotten any further in mostly due to laziness/playing FFV/other things too much for my own good.

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Well, having played the game so many times, and using all the cheap tricks FFVI has, I got a finishing time of around 20 hours. My personal best, though I certainly wasn't trying any speed-run, just playing the game normally. (While using cheap tricks.)

I haven't really tried any of these real challenges though, although a low-level game sounds kinda fun

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