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Someone in another forum I frequent made this thread and it sparked some good discussions, so I'll try it out over here. The idea is to take every sport that you follow/enjoy and name who you believe are the best players of all time in each sport. I did a top three for four different sports, but you can do however many you want for whatever sports you want (one guy at hsqb did a top ten for six different sports; Yikes). Here's what I wrote:

Basketball

Michael Jordan - No explanation necessary. Six championships, unbelievable athlete and scorer as well as a solid defender and classy guy, Jordan is probably one of the best athletes in any sport of all time. The NBA would be nothing today without Jordan's unbelievable ability and achievements.

Oscar Robertson - Oscar Robertson in the 70s and Magic Johnson in the 80s revolutionized the point guard position. The Big O was incredible at every facet of the game, and plus he's the only player ever to average a triple-double for an entire season.

Wilt Chamberlin - Probably the best post player of all time, as his ridiculous scoring and rebounding avarges indicate. If Bill Russell hadn't existed then Chamberlin would have WAY more than two championships.

(American) Football

Jim Brown - Probably the best running back ever, Brown's career rushing average of 5.2 a carry will probably never be equaled. He is also a college lacrosse legend, making his athletic achievements even more impressive. In fact, he's the only athlete in history to be inducted into three seperate Halls of Fame - College Football, Pro Football, and Lacrosse. It's a shame he retired from the NFL so early.

Barry Sanders - This guy was not as powerful as Brown, but made up for it by being the most creative, athletic running back ever. His fakes and changes in direction are just incredible to watch highlights of. Keep in mind it took Emmitt Smith two more seasons than Sanders to break his old rushing record.

Jerry Rice - Easily the most prolific receiver of all time, with more than 200 touchdowns over an unbelievably long and productive career. His unbelievable speed, moves, and perfectly executed routes made his short stature completely irrelevant, and I severely doubt his receiving records will ever be broken.

Soccer

Pele - He has the most professional goals ever and the fourth-most international goals ever. He won three World Cup championships, was the most perfectly two-footed player ever, and had an unbelievable combination of speed, vision, power, creativity, and finesse. He's as close to perfection as any soccer player ever, and in my opinion Pele (add an aigu on the second e) is the greatest athlete of all time in any sport.

Ferenc Puskas - He was the star player for the best international side of all time, the 1952 Hungarian national team, and ranks second all-time in international goals (he has more than Pele in fewer games) and also won the European Champions League three times with Real Madrid. Unbelievably powerful off the left foot, Puskas was one of the deadliest and most creative pure scorers ever.

Mia Hamm - In my opinion, she is the only female athlete worth mentioning on any list of the greatest athletes of all time. She has more international goals than any player ever (men's or women's), and won four straight NCAA championships, two World Cups, and two Olympic gold medals. (plus one WUSA title) The only female soccer players that could be considered anywhere near as good as Mia in her prime are Brigit Prinz and Sun Wen.

Baseball

Willie Mays - IMO, the best professional baseball player ever. The best defensive center fielder ever, one of the best and fastest base-runners/stealers, and quite possibly the best hitter ever. If Mays had played more games in ballparks smaller than Candlestick, then Hank Aaron and Babe Ruth's home run records would have been crushed by the Say Hey Kid.

Ty Cobb - This guy is the best pure hitter ever. He has the highest career average of all time, a solid collection of RBIs and HRs for someone playing in the deadball era, and was also a famously dangerous baserunner and defender. If it weren't for Mays, Cobb would easily be the best center fielder ever.

Roger Clemens - He has had unbelievable production and success at every level for several teams, and is still one of the most skilled and feared pitchers in the game despite being in his forties. He's like a modern combination of Walter Johnson and Christy Mathewson, but more intimidating.

EDIT: some typos, plus I found some nifty additional info on Jim Brown.

This post has been edited by laszlow on 4th May 2006 17:06

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nice topic lasz! here are my picks for BBall and Soccer homies:

Basketball

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - record at UCLA is almost unreal; dominated with the bucks and the lakers, inventor of the sky hook, what more can you ask for?

The Big O - for the same reasons listed by lasz; also came within .5 of an assist in two other seasons of averaging a triple double along with the one season that he did.

Dominque Wilkins - in my opinion, the greatest player to NEVER win a title (yes i think he is better than karl malone); again, in my opinion, tied with MJ as the greatest dunker of all time. the human hightlight film.

Pete Maravich - best player in NCAA history i think; did not succeed as much in the NBA, but his college stats were amazing and his shooting ability was awesome.

Soccer

Pele - same reasons as lasz listed; best soccer player of all time.

Diego Maradona - some argue that he was better than Pele; infamous for the "Hand of God" or "Mano de Dios" play where he scored a goal with his hand; skills were amazing and goal scoring ability was unstoppable.

well there are my two cents

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Football (american)

John Elway, the only quarteback to be in five superbowls, Elway won two consecutive superbowls 97'-98', had nine pro bowl selections, has bet winning percentage (148-82-1),Elway had a very powerful accurate arm, to quote a site about him "while most quarterbacks have a rifle or cannon, Elway has a bazooka"

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Elway is also the second player ever to score a rushing touchdown in 4 different Super Bowls, how about that for a quarterback

as a for a single moment (which I thought the topic was origonally going to be about), "The Immaculate Reception" a play involving Terry Bradshaw, Franco Harris, and John Fugua. It enabled the Steelers to beat the raiders in the final seconds on the route to the superbowl, Raiders were ahead 7-6. Bradshaw passed to Fugua, but he was taken out by the raider's saftey, Tatum. The ball went back a couple yards, and it was caught by Franco Harris, who caught it on the tip of his shoe, and ran it in for a touchdown. The reception is of major controversy, because it is unknown whether the ball was tipped off of Fugua's hands or the safety's. If it bounced off Fuqua, and then Harris was the next to touch the ball, the reception was illegal under the rules of the time, which did not allow two offensive players to touch a pass in succession; the Raiders would gain possession and a sure win. If the ball bounced off Tatum, or if it bounced off Fuqua and then Tatum, the reception was legal, as a defensive player was the last to touch the ball.

I have been looking for a film clip of the immaculate reception for about a year now, but i still haven't found one.

Wrestling
Dan Gable 3x NCAA champion Olympic gold medalist, world champion, only one loss in his high school-olympic career. Coached the Iowa Hawkeyes to have 10 consecutive NCAA championships, 15 total

Cael Sanderson. Only Wrestler to have four undefeated seasons in the NCAA as well as 4x NCAA champion, Olympic champion 2nd in worlds

This post has been edited by Cloud_Strife510 on 4th May 2006 04:13

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I'll stick with what I know best. Awesome topic idea.

Football

Peyton Manning
While he is not the best yet, I believe that when his career is over, we will have witnessed the greatest QB of all time. He's already passed the single season touchdown record set by Dan Marino with 49TD's. It's only a matter of time before he gets that SB ring and solidifies his place in history.

Jerry Rice
The best WR to ever play the game. His attitude, work ethic, and production will be the standard by which all other WR's are measured for the next century, at least.

Jim Brown
One of the most punishing runners of all time, Jim Brown is a legend in his own time. Had he not opted for early retirement, he would have set records that modern day RB's would have a helluva time trying to match and beat.

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Hockey

Wayne Gretzky
I guess he has to be considered the best player in the history of the league based on his accomplishments. Gretzky holds 61 NHL records. He is the highest-scoring player in league history, having recorded 894 goals and 1963 assists for 2857 points. For comparison, the second highest-scorer is Mark Messier (Gretzky's teammate for many years) with 1887; Gretzky has more assists than Messier has points! Gretzky is the only player to record 200 points in a single NHL season; he did it four times, including his NHL record 215. He led the Edmonton Oilers to four Stanley Cup championships in five years, and after being traded to Los Angeles in 1988, was personally responsible for the popularization of hockey in the western and southern United States to the point at which several new NHL teams were added in those regions.

Bobby Orr
Bobby Orr is the other player who often gets the nod as the best of all time. He was a defenseman for the Boston Bruins in the late-'60s and the '70s, and he was a good one, winning the Norris Trophy as the NHL's top defenseman in eight consecutive seasons. He was also an offensive powerhouse, though. He won the NHL scoring title twice, and remains the only defenseman ever to have achieved the feat. He is also, along with Gretzky and Mario Lemieux, one of only three players to record 100 assists in a single season. With his speed and incredible puck-handling ability, he revolutionized the way hockey was played, particularly by defensemen. His career was cut short by knee injuries after 12 years.

Mario Lemieux
Like Orr, Lemieux was plagued by injury and retired young (although Lemieux did come back later). Lemieux overcame severe back and hip injuries and even a battle with cancer to be the most dominant force in the 1990s NHL. Playing for a terrible Pittsburgh team through the late '80s, Lemieux managed to always finish near the top of the league in scoring. He scored 199 points one year---one short of entering Gretzky's one-man 200 points club. Pittsburgh got its act together and Lemieux was able to lead them to back-to-back Stanley Cup wins in '91 and '92. He retired at age 32 after winning the 1997 scoring title, but came back midway through the 2000-2001 season to try to attract more fans to watch the Penguins, who were struggling financially. He was great, scoring 76 points in just over half the season---by far the highest scoring pace in the league that year. He led Pittsburgh to the Eastern Conference finals. After that, the team was disassembled and fell to the bottom of the league. Lemieux's injuries came back and, in 2006, he was forced to retire again due to hear problems. Many believe that, had he been healthy and able to play a full career, he could have approached Gretzky's scoring records.

Patrick Roy
Roy broke into the NHL in 1986 and made an immediate impact, leading the 7th place Montreal Canadiens to the Stanley Cup with his incredible goaltending. He would win one more in Montreal in 1993; both times, he won the Conn Smythe Trophy as play-off MVP. He was traded to Colorado prior to the 1995-96 season in what many consider to be one of the worst trades in sports history, and his impact was again immediate. Colorado won the Stanley Cup that year. When they won it again in 2001, Roy again received the Conn Smythe Trophy; he is the only player ever to win it three times. Indeed, while there were other goalies in the '90s who were equally good or even better in the regular season (Dominik Hasek, Martin Brodeur, Ed Belfour), Roy was famous for elevating his game in the play-offs. Of course, he was great all the time; he retired in 2003 as the all-time leader in regular season wins (551) and play-off wins (151). He is widely considered to be the best goaltender ever to play in the NHL.


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I'll just go through a list of footballing legends that have been neglected:

George Best (N. Ireland): provided he wasn't drunk while on the pitch, his skill matched Pele's.
Johann Cruyff (Holland): ever heard the phrase "total football"?
Eusebio (Portugal): impossibly fast, and the first player to win FIFA's Golden Boot award.
Gerd Muller (W. Germany): not called the Bomber for no reason.
Marco Van Basten (Holland): remember his famous bicycle kick?
Bobby Moore (England): the best anticipation of any player the game's ever seen.

This post has been edited by The_Pink_Nu1 on 4th May 2006 23:11

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^^ You forgot Franz Beckenbauer, Lev Yashin, Alfredo Di Stefano, and George Weah. I only ignored those guys because I limited myself to three, and in fact I almost put Best, Beckenbauer or Cruyff instead of Mia. Beckenbauer reinvented the sweeper position and is probably the best defender ever. Yashin is hands-down the best goalie ever; they even named the World Cup goalie award after him. Also, I have always been of the opinion that Maradona is only the second-best Argentinian to ever play the game - Di Stefano totally outclasses him (even though he was from a family of Italian immigrants). Weah is probably the best soccer player ever to have never played in a World Cup, because Liberia is such a terrible soccer country when you don't count him in.

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Great topic.

So many players are going through my head right now. But I'll try to control myself and not go through a gigantic post.

I think I have to start off by mentioning the two most dominant athletes in the world.

Lance Armstrong - This guy is flat out unbelievable. His story is so amazing and can't be stated enough. He was diagnosed with cancer, overcame it, and won the Tour de France. Then he won it again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. 7 wins a row. Unfrigginremarkable. People seem to overlook him though. "Anyone can ride a bike". Oh yeah? Can you ride a bike 2, 178 miles in a foreign country where nobody likes you faster than hundreds of other riders? Seven times? If Lance Armstrong isn't the definition of dominance in one domain of sports, I don't know who is. Sadly, he's decided to call it quits. Going out on top. If he was still racing, do you think he could've gone the entire decade of winning?

Tiger Woods - How is this guy not mentioned yet? Golf may not be all that exciting to watch, but I do enjoy hearing about it. And Tiger is a beast on the links (no pun intended). He's already up on the upper echelon of all time golfers like Jack Nicklaus and Greg Norman and Bobby Jones. And he's not done yet. I remember hearing about how he had the "Tiger Slam". It didn't count officially as a Grand Slam, but he nailed down all 4 majors in a row (just over the span of two years). That's an incredible feet. This guy is a great golfer, and a great guy. I feel sorry for him over the loss of his father recently. Hopefully that won't effect his game.

Babe Ruth - The absolute gold standard of the King of baseball (figuratively and literally, as the famous image of him with the crown for proof). George Herman Ruth is, and always will be, the greatest player in baseball. I don't care how many people pass him on the homerun list. I don't care how many people break his slugging percentage or triples or whatever. This guy was the absolute superstar of his day. He broke countless records at the time, was the first player to hit 50 homers and 60 homers (in the same year). And he held the all time homerun mark for nearly 60 years until Hank Aaron took it. He's one of only 3 players with 700 homeruns. And his has to be the most remarkable since he was playing in the so-called "dead ball era" (and Bonds' shouldn't be as remarkable since he's playing in the "juiced era"). Plus, even before all his offensive accolades, he was a pitcher for Boston. And a damn good pitcher at that. He had several 20 win seasons. Who else can possibly say they were the greatest offensive monster of their time AND a sterling pitcher? Sit down, Mr. Bonds, you'll never be as good as Ruth.

I'll definitely have another post to add on to these 3.

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If we're talking about the best athletes of all time, it's a sham that Jim Thorpe hasn't been mentioned yet. The guy dominated at anything and everything he competed in.



Others:

Walter Payton - Sweetness was the man plain and simple. Maybe the best all around back of all time. His strength was almost unreal for his size, which that run against the Cardinals sums it up perfectly, taking on tacklers head on and just slamming right through them. His trademark swan dives were awesome. But what really made him good was that he could also catch a pass out of the backfield, and could take on a blocker like NO OTHER. He absolutely would murder guys blazing towards the QB. This is often overlooked.

Magic Johnson - Was this guy supposed to be a point guard or...? Just simply an amazing player.

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I'll try to limit myself to top 5s:

Basketball:

1. MJ- No explanation needed.
2. Larry Bird- Can't believe no one's mentioned him yet. Bird was just about the least flashy player in basketball, but no one has ever done EVERYTHING as well as him. Larry Legend just found ways to win.
3. Magic
4. Russell
5. Dwayne Wade- Yeah, I know Wade doesn't really deserve to be in the top 5 yet, or even the top 50. But mark my words, by the end of his career (once Riley is gone and they figure out how to build a team around Wade rather than Shaq) We'll be mentioning Wade in the same breath as the players I have listed above him.

Football:

1. Walter Payton- As a Chicagoan, I'm contractually obligated to pick him. If I wasn't, though I would pick...
2. Barry Sanders- Even when he was playing against the Bears, I had a hard time not rooting for him to spin away from three tackles, make two linebackers look stupid, and juke the free safety on the way to the endzone.If I could pay to see any athlete play 1 game in their prime, it would be Barry.
3. Joe Montana- Like Larry, Joe just did everything he had to do to win a championship.
4. Jerry Rice
5. Lawrence Taylor- Gotta show some love for the defense, and een though LT had his issues off the field, no one was as disruptive a force on it.

Baseball:

1. Hank Aaron- Ridiculous longevity in the pre-steroids era, there's a reason Hank holds the record in most cumulative statistics. Plus to do it in a fairly hostile enironment half the time, that just wins him more respect in my book.
2. Babe
3. Willie Mays
4. Ernie Banks- Gotta have a Cub on there.
5. Bob Gibson- I know he pitched when everything was weighted towards the pitcher, but those are some ridiculous numbers.

Negro Leagues-

1. Josh Gibson- Despite what I said about Aaron, I think Gibson would still hold the record if he had been allowed to play. It's reported/estimated he hit over 800 home runs, and he died in his mid-30s.
2. Satchel Paige- Even harder to keep track of the numbers, because of how many different teams he played for, but Satch could do anything he wanted with a baseball. Just look at his rookie year in the big leagues, at age 43:
3. Cool Papa Bell- Bell made going from 1st to 3rd on a bunt look routine. He could have the records for hits and steals right now.
4. Oscar Charleston- I don't have the quote in front of me, but Dizzy Dean said that Charleston scared him more than either Ruth or Gherig.
5. Buck O'Neil- Maybe not one of the five best, but deserves as much credit as anyone other than Jackie Robinson for bridging the gap between the Negro Leagues and the pros.

Track:

1. Carl Lewis- Maybe winning gold in 4 different Olympics isn't hard if you're a biathlete or something, but as a sprinter/jumper? Lewis was ridiculous. After Sanders, I would pay to watch Lewis in his prime.
2. Steve Prefontaine- One of the gutsiest runners ever, and one of the main reasons for the popularity of distance running. Pre could have done so much more if he had lived longer.
3. Michael Johnson- Not only did he shatter two of the toughest records in track, he made it look easy. The last 100 of a 400 it looked like everyone else had been running for three miles and he was just starting.


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Quote (Gears @ 5th May 2006 12:25)

Negro Leagues-

1. Josh Gibson- Despite what I said about Aaron, I think Gibson would still hold the record if he had been allowed to play. It's reported/estimated he hit over 800 home runs, and he died in his mid-30s.
2. Satchel Paige- Even harder to keep track of the numbers, because of how many different teams he played for, but Satch could do anything he wanted with a baseball. Just look at his rookie year in the big leagues, at age 43:
3. Cool Papa Bell- Bell made going from 1st to 3rd on a bunt look routine. He could have the records for hits and steals right now.
4. Oscar Charleston- I don't have the quote in front of me, but Dizzy Dean said that Charleston scared him more than either Ruth or Gherig.
5. Buck O'Neil- Maybe not one of the five best, but deserves as much credit as anyone other than Jackie Robinson for bridging the gap between the Negro Leagues and the pros.

You know what's weird, I've actually heard that Oscar Charleston might have been better than Bell or Gibson, especially with regards to his defense. Offensively, Charleston also had the best batting average (.320 or so) and most homers (something like fifteen in fifty games) in major league vs. negro league exhibition games. He supposedly compares very favorably to Tris Speaker and (to a lesser extent) Ty Cobb.

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Baseball:

Robin Yount: My childhood hero, won the AL MVP in two different positions, Centerfield and Shortstop, arguably the two toughest positions to field. 3,142 hits, plus the baddest porn moustache of all time for a non-porn star. And by baddest I mean cooler than the Kool-Aid guy.

Carlton Fisk: Greatest catcher of all time, won the golden glove his rookie year (along with AL ROY honors), caught more games than any catcher ever, 11-time allstar, plus set the homerun record for catchers, but femme boy Piazza since broke that.

Hank Aaron: With all the adversity he's been through, he holds one of the biggest records in professional sports, RBI king, and also holds, in my opinion, the biggest record in professional sports, homerun king. Hank Aaron is the man. He's the only guy in the whole world (other than Sadaharu Oh, but he doesnt count) to be able to call himself the homerun king. Imagine your significant other calling you that before love making.... I wish I had that nickname.

Football:

Brett Favre: Born and raised in Green Bay Wisconsin so Im way biased. But I dont think bias has anything to do with this. Sure, he fell off, but in the mid to late 90's nobody could touch Brett Favre, and he won an unprecedented 3 straight NFL MVP titles. This guy was tnt exploding every Sunday. Watching a montage of some of his touchdown passes is absolutely breathtaking, and easily he's the toughest guy in the history of the game. Not missing a game since 1992? Dayum.

John Elway: Being a Packers fan I wish nothing but death to John Elway and his family, but the reason why I put him on this list, is that he's the only of the great quarterbacks to ever go out on top. Two superbowl wins and then retirement. I still hate him. Grr... I want a Superbowl 32 rematch!

Barry Sanders: He shouldn't have retired. This guy was scary. He was like Jason Vorhees running down the field with a big machete, where everyone just dove all around to avoid getting sliced and diced! Excuse me for that, it was lame.

Im gonna stop now, Im bored with this. GO BREWERS!

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MJ is the greatest basketball player in recent history, bar none. I've taken quite a liking to John Paxon of the Chicago Bulls after watching the game and seeing him successful in a 5-pointer towards the end of the game.

Nolan Ryan is one of the greatest MLB pitchers of all time and a legendary no-hitter. Babe Ruth needs no explanation. I've always been a fan of Mark Grace and Ryne Sanberg from the Chicago Cubs and was over-joyed when Sandberg was inducted into Baseball's Hall of Fame.

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Football:

Brett Favre: Born and raised in Green Bay Wisconsin so Im way biased. But I dont think bias has anything to do with this. Sure, he fell off, but in the mid to late 90's nobody could touch Brett Favre, and he won an unprecedented 3 straight NFL MVP titles. This guy was tnt exploding every Sunday. Watching a montage of some of his touchdown passes is absolutely breathtaking, and easily he's the toughest guy in the history of the game. Not missing a game since 1992? Dayum.

Favre was born and raised in Kiln, Mississippi.

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Unless, of course, you meant you were born and raised in Green Bay..... in which case just ignore me.

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I think he was referring to himself and not favre, but I can see the cause for confusion

for me...here we go

Archie Manning: Made an abysmal team pretty good, though I just wish he had some more talent back then as a supporting cast.

Ricky Williams: In my opinion one of the most underrated line backers in football. In his prime he was just as good as LT

Morten Anderson: Man what a great kicker...this guy was the definition of clutch and he had some power for a shrimp...shoulda stayed loyal though

Finally and yes you can hate me for it, but I don't care...
Christian Okoye and Dalton Hilliard these guys were so underrated just because they played on crappy teams. I mean just lookj at the stats in college and you can see the potential they would have had with quality blocking up front. Too bad they were in the wrong era.

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1. Michael Jordan- There's no doubt that MJ is the greatest basketball player ever to play in the NBA. His leadership and abilities where above the rest and no one couldn't stop him, you could only hope to at least slow him down just a bit.

2.Roberto Clemente- The greatest latino player ever. Roberto Clemente is probably the greatest outfielder of all times. Clemente hited 3000 hits in his career, which unfourtunately came to a tragic end when he died in plane crash of the coast of San Juan. He was headed to Nicaragua where an earthquake had ruined the country.

3.Muhamad Ali- His nickname says all, he is "The Greatest". Those who steped into the ring to fight Ali knew they where in for a rough night. Ali is a true icon and a living legend.

4.Wilt Chamberlain- The only player ever to score 100 points in a game in the NBA. Wilt was a scoring machine that couldn't be stoped. He is also the only player ever to average 50 or more points per game in a regular season.




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Brett Favre: Born and raised in Green Bay Wisconsin so Im way biased. But I dont think bias has anything to do with this. Sure, he fell off, but in the mid to late 90's nobody could touch Brett Favre, and he won an unprecedented 3 straight NFL MVP titles. This guy was tnt exploding every Sunday. Watching a montage of some of his touchdown passes is absolutely breathtaking, and easily he's the toughest guy in the history of the game. Not missing a game since 1992? Dayum.

John Elway: Being a Packers fan I wish nothing but death to John Elway and his family, but the reason why I put him on this list, is that he's the only of the great quarterbacks to ever go out on top. Two superbowl wins and then retirement. I still hate him. Grr... I want a Superbowl 32 rematch!

Favre is one of the greates quartebacks of all time and i should have mentioned him and Montana, but most people already know about "Joe Cool" The reason I hold Elway above Montana is becasue before the broncos had Mike Shanahan, the team had an offense focused on rushing, which held Elway back in many games as well as his first three superbowls. Watching Elway play when i was a kid is the reason I am a Broncos fan today (I've never been to Colorado, I was born and raised in San Diego) it was an unbiased decision. to me Elway is a cut above Favre and Montana.
My top three QBs are;
1 Elway
2 Montana
3 Favre

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