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my question here is simple:

is seifer...
A- Evil?
or
B- A troubled teen?

i think i would opt for b. i dont think seifer was really all THAT bad, it just seems like his jealousy for squall just went a little too far so he had to put himself in a position of power. i dont think that really makes him bad so much as somewhat brainwashed and misguided. discuss.

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You watch the world exploding every single night
Dancing in the sun, a newborn in the light
Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death
Hello to eternity and live for every breath

Your time will come...

'B'. he wasnt really all that bad. like you say, he was brainwashed.

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"Only the dead have seen the end of their quotes being misattributed to Plato."
-George Santayana

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here..."
-Abraham Lincoln, prior to the discovery of Irony.

I go for option C.

Sexay and misguided.

*huggles her Seifer doll*

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I will be your misfit queen,
I'll take you where the grass is green,
Past the littered sidewalk to the sun

A little bit of both, but I think it leans towards B.

All of his "evil" came from his total obsession with being strong and recognized and/or better than Squall.  Without this trait, he is kind of a jerk, but he's definitely not what anyone could call evil.

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"I always have a quotation for everything - it saves original thinking."
~Dorothy L. Sayers

"The truly remarkable thing about television is that it allows several million people to laugh at the same joke and still feel lonely."
~T.S. Eliot

"Defeat is not defeat unless accepted as reality - in your own mind!"
~ Bruce Lee

I opt for B. Sure, he's a jerk, but as far as evilness goes, he's just misunderstood, and misguided.

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*END TRANSMISSION*

I vote for Option D - melodramatic and whiny

Granted, Squall was ALSO whiny, but at least he whined on the side of Preserving World Peace.

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"Turd-cookies!...they're hot and soft, though..."

Rose leaves, when the rose is dead, Are heaped for the beloved's bed; And so thy thoughts, when thou art gone, Love itself shall slumber on.  - Percy Bysshe Shelley

he often did his whining internally as well, so even though you had to witness it, nobody else that he was with did.

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You watch the world exploding every single night
Dancing in the sun, a newborn in the light
Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death
Hello to eternity and live for every breath

Your time will come...

Seifer is nothing but a sad, pathetic punk. I hate hate hate him. I put him on the same level as Gau, ABSOLUTLY WORTHLESS

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War is for the participants a test of character; it makes bad men worse and good men better. - Joshua Chamberlain

U sir R a n00b >:-( - Cactuar

Seifer is not evil, and I'm not quite sure if he was misguided. He believed in something, wanted something, and wouldn't let anyone else stand in his way. He just had less then popular ways of achieving his goals.

I liked Seifer ^-^

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I had an old signature. Now I've changed it.

I think Seifer is just one of those misunderstood people.  I'm guessing acts the way he does because, growing up, he never really did fit in with the other kids.  I think that, deep down, he's actually a good guy.  He's just a little misguided at times, that's all.

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"The Master of Past, Present, and Future has returned."

Hey, I used to carry around the Seifer avatar.  

Well...I choose B.

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Nine-hundred ninety-nine billion nine-hundered ninety-nine million nine-hundred ninety-nine thousand nine-hundred ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall...

I don't think Seifer's evil...just a jerk...

but seriously.  I think it's like in FF4, Cecil and Kain took diffrent paths due to diffrent circumstances.  But they both got to the same place, right?

But in FF8, Seifer and Squall took diffrent paths and crossed gunblades.  And unfortunatly, ended up in diffrent ends.  That was Seifer's choice.  He didn't complain about it, he took it with no regrets.  Thats what matters.

Translation: Seifer's not evil, just a diffrent kind of hero.

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Really Random Quote of the Day: "Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war." - Richard M. Nixon

So if you're done reading this, you know I have nothing to say and you've wasted your time. Thank you come again.

I look at Seifer the same way as Cain from FFIV, his emotional and personality weaknesses allowed him to be the perfect tool. What he wanted deep in his heart, and the darkness within it, was exploited to make him do evil things. Though, he was more than just a "troubled teen," because he took the whole "being-on-the-side-of-evil" thing and went with it to no end.
A-point-five

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"I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books."
-Brad Meltzer

Let's see..he gone and done bad stuff.

So that means he's evil.



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The clouds ran away, opened up the sky
And one by one I watched every constellation die
And there I was frozen, standing in my backyard
Face to face, eye to eye, staring at the last star
I should've known, walked all the way home
To find that she wasn't here, I'm still all alone

-Atmosphere "Always Coming Back Home to You"