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Posted: 17th May 2006 02:43

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Quote (One_Winged_Angel @ 16th May 2006 12:16)
i watched the barret vs emmy wep jp vid and i want to know how did he use so many counter/mimes?

By equipping them. tongue.gif

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Posted: 17th May 2006 10:49

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Quote (TItoJackson @ 16th May 2006 19:24)
Oh dear god... the Lucky 7 trick...

I cant believe I forgot about that, I obsessed over it, using the hp materia and attacking my own characters to get it to work. I remember getting three characters to 7,777 before the Emerald Fight but I cant remember what happened. I think I blacked out and lost all memory of the Lucky 7 trick until just today...

The best thing to do is get the last two hp digits to 77 and then use potions to get up to 7,777.

Doesn't work mate. If you have 3 characters with 7777 hp before the battle they collectively only make 64 hits rather than 192 - which sucks.

So it's best to have Nanaki (fastest attack) at 7777 and the others at 9999 with 2 materia each. Then wait for Aire Tam Storm. With Nanaki attacking first; Emerald's hp is nearly halved in 2 minutes. Quite nice really.

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Posted: 22nd May 2006 17:43

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another question about the barret vs emmy wep battle.
how can u get ungarmax to hit so high? my barret has really high strength and he has the missing score but he only hits 2000+.
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Posted: 22nd May 2006 22:20

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Really high strength? You must mean 255 otherwise it will be 2000ish. As for Missing Score; do you have lots of high AP materia equipped with it?

Plus two hero drinks - they're the best!

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Posted: 23rd May 2006 19:13

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Really high strength? You must mean 255 otherwise it will be 2000ish. As for Missing Score; do you have lots of high AP materia equipped with it?

Plus two hero drinks - they're the best!

yea i have master materia like ultima,mega-all,sheild etc.

and another question. how do u get hero drinks? i kinda forgot wink.gif
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Posted: 23rd May 2006 19:38

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Quote (sweetdude @ 7th May 2006 14:58)
What's everyone's best time at beating him?

Mines about 30:48 i think and that was with no *super* materia using yuffie,barret and cloud. Cloud had level 4 limit as did barret but yuffie had level 3 limit as i used doom of the living. i kinda suck don't i?
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Posted: 23rd May 2006 19:44

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i just watched the level 7 tifa video and i feel sorry for who done that because could you imagine having to sit through all that. blink.gif wacko.gif
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Posted: 23rd May 2006 20:08

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Wow you know you can just edit posts?

Get hero drinks at the Gold Saucer. They're essential almost. I read a good tip somewhere, except that it goes against a no-materia fight against Emerald...

Underwater materia continues to gain AP from battles so get one of them with masses of AP for Barret's Missing Score. I quite like that actually. Although every time I fight Emerald these days it's single Cloud, Buster Sword, Bronze Bangle, no Accessory and no materia. Did I mention that it is the first time you fight him? Therefore no W-Item.

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Posted: 23rd May 2006 20:13

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ok thanks sorry for all those posts.
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Posted: 23rd May 2006 20:41

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Nah it's ok don't worry.

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Please do not say it is okay unless you are in a position to back it up. It is the job of the moderation team, not you. -R51


The Emerald Challenge will begin in 10 days time... Me and my friend (EX-SOLDIER on this forum) are going to do three different battles. The winner is the person who does each in the shortest time.

1- 3 man battle against Emerald the first possible time you can fight him
2 - Cloud with Buster/Bronze/no materia/no accessory first time you can fight him
3 - Single character first time you can fight him

On 3, my friend is going with Nanaki... I think I know what he's up to. Howling Moon with Ribbon equipped will juice his stats with no beserk. Then he can kick serious arse. What do you think?

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Posted: 25th May 2006 18:48

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Have 9,999hp with all characters and two materia each
Keep them at that throughout the fight by constantly using x-potions from Wutai
(I have no W-Item)
As Emerald uses Aire Tam Storm it will damage me by 2,222hp therefore each character will have 7,777hp
Lucky 7s...

I tried that method and i beat emmy wep in 9:18 smile.gif . i got lucky sevens then ungarmaxed,omnislashed and doom of the livinged his butt. thanks for that tactic, i raise my hat to that(i don't do that oftenly).

I just noticed something when watching the cloud video, when the screen changes the time decreases by about 4 or 5 minutes and the second time it changes cloud's limit gauge isn't full anymore but is near full.

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Posted: 25th May 2006 21:07

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Quote (One_Winged_Angel @ 25th May 2006 18:48)
I just noticed something when watching the cloud video, when the screen changes the time decreases by about 4 or 5 minutes and the second time it changes cloud's limit gauge isn't full anymore but is near full.

Yeah there's loads of inconsistencies in those videos. I don't know/care if they're legit but that's one of the parts which is dodgy.

Thanks for complimenting me on the strategy. It's actually been overtaken (many a time) by new ones though... Like have Nanaki with 7777 at the start because he's the fastest attacker - I think? I've still got no hope of beating EX-SOLDIER's 28 seconds... but I'll try.

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Posted: 9th June 2006 15:25

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Beating Emerald Weapon 7777 style.

I found this video. i hope you enjoy it.

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Posted: 9th June 2006 16:13

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Damn chocobo breeding,
The Blue one is STILL refusing to sleep with her brother; the Green one.

Catch any four chocobo, then it'll reset the breeding so you can breed again
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Posted: 10th June 2006 14:29

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I can beat Emerald Weapon really easy now. Here's my strategy.

Cloud lvl 86+
Equipped with Ragnorak,Mystile/Imperial Guard and Sprint shoes.
Materia used was Hp plus mastered, counter/mime mastered, w-item mastered,mp plus mastered,speed plus mastered,2 mastered luck plus,2 mastered magic plus,hades/mp turbo mastered.
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Posted: 10th June 2006 15:04

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Quote (One_Winged_Angel @ 10th June 2006 14:29)
I can beat Emerald Weapon really easy now. Here's my strategy.

Cloud lvl 86+
Equipped with Ragnorak,Mystile/Imperial Guard and Sprint shoes.
Materia used was Hp plus mastered, counter/mime mastered, w-item mastered,mp plus mastered,speed plus mastered,2 mastered luck plus,2 mastered magic plus,hades/mp turbo mastered.

What did you do? Try it without the materia and with the Buster Sword if it's too easy.

Can't see the video on this computer but I'm sure it'll be not far off my own technique. Can someone please post the time on the 7777 video?

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Posted: 10th June 2006 15:07

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Can't see the video on this computer but I'm sure it'll be not far off my own technique. Can someone please post the time on the 7777 video?


The length of it? If so it's 6:06 if i'm correct.

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What did you do? Try it without the materia and with the Buster Sword if it's too easy.


I started off by using two hero drinks and then when Emerald hit me and i counter/mimed it then i used hero drink and elixir until i got my limit break and then i used that and kept on miming it until i needed to heal again, i just repeat that until he dies.(I beat him in 13:23)

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Posted: 10th June 2006 15:10

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6:06? I can beat him quicker than that. Could you now tell me what happens tongue.gif. Sorry It's a bit much to ask but just a small summary.

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Posted: 10th June 2006 15:12

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6:06? I can beat him quicker than that. Could you now tell me what happens tongue.gif. Sorry It's a bit much to ask but just a small summary.

The battle starts with Barret,Cloud and Cid at 7777 hp. then he uses lucky sevens and uses ungarmax,omnislash and highwind(he doesn't even get hit).
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Posted: 10th June 2006 15:14

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There's no point in having three characters at 7777. They only get 64 hits between them. He should've put Vincent at 7777 because he's the fastest attacker (I think). But yeah it sounds good I'll look forward to watching it.

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Posted: 10th June 2006 20:57

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Ah, watched both and they're quite awesome. Oh, and the Emerald one is something like 3:03, not quite sure exactly. It's just very slow, which is why the video's 6:06 long happy.gif

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Posted: 10th June 2006 21:47

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In my opinion, you just need 3 Enemy' skill materias, with 2 blue magics each: Mighty Guard and White Wind. My party was Cloud, Tifa and Yuffie, with Level 4 Limits breaks,and around 4000 HP minimum, and in Fury status. Emerald will not kill you with its laser if you got your characters on Shell status, though I've noticed its laser have a dispel effect..so you must keep doing Mighty guard and White Wind for healing. When he open its wings with those 5 annoying materia-like things, you must use your limits breaks, to get rid of all the 5 materia things as soon as you can. So you can prevent him to release its Big Bang Attack, or Aire tam Storm, which you can survive if you got 4 or 5 materias per character if you got +6000 HP. You can win if you keep doing 2 white winds and ocassionaly Mighty guard, at crucial moments. ( actually you can use megaelixirs instead of White winds...but that's cheating for me wink.gif )
I've noticed two things while fighting Emerald Weapon:
1) After receiving +500000 damage points, he cast Aire tam Storm, no matter if you destroyed its 5 materias-like things. That's mean you can't equip all the materia you want. I'll say 4 materias if you got 6000 Hp like I said earlier, at least with one character.
2) This really is more a question: Emerald got 1000000 HP. I damaged him with two Knights of Round Table attacks, then I ran. And then I fought again, and he gave me the impression he got only around 600000 ( Because KOTR attacks i did previously before I ran away), and not 1000000 HP. You think this is actually true? I killed him really quick, and before I expected because of this. I know because I was doing some maths on that fight on how much damage I did to him, and I estimated his HP were 500000-700000 only. I wish I could confirm it...it just gave me that impression. It could be easily proven if a lucky 7 character fights Emerald and then run, and then enter again, and then run, and then enter again. You know, because 7777*64=497728 damage. huh.gif

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Posted: 11th June 2006 15:09

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I've always just gone with what people have said (Emerald hp = 1 mil) so you could be right. I've never personally counted his hp. I never thought to hurt him then run. Does his hp not refill? If it's true, Emerald is officially the easiest boss in the game - if you have enough time.

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Posted: 11th June 2006 18:28

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I've always just gone with what people have said (Emerald hp = 1 mil) so you could be right. I've never personally counted his hp. I never thought to hurt him then run. Does his hp not refill? If it's true, Emerald is officially the easiest boss in the game - if you have enough time.

Yea you make a good point there if that's true then people could say that they beat it in like 10 secs by continously running from it.

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Posted: 12th June 2006 06:33

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Master the Throw Materia and chuck 1,500,000 gil at it.

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Posted: 12th June 2006 16:49

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Master the Throw Materia and chuck 1,500,000 gil at it.

Is that an instant kill on it or does it hit very high?
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Posted: 22nd June 2006 16:55

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Quote (sweetdude @ 7th May 2006 05:37)
Yeah Mime, Quadra Magic, KotR (boo) and the other materia in the secret caves you can get as soon as you get the highwind; with a little chocobo breeding.

As for keeping the materia low, certainly. If fact this is essential to my tactic:

Have 9,999hp with all characters and two materia each
Keep them at that throughout the fight by constantly using x-potions from Wutai
(I have no W-Item)
As Emerald uses Aire Tam Storm it will damage me by 2,222hp therefore each character will have 7,777hp
Lucky 7s...

Maybe it's just me, but how would you get 9999 without any HP Plus materia?
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Posted: 28th June 2006 21:28

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You can't. You equip an HP Plus as one of two materia you MUST equip. Does that make sense?

Does the 1,500,000 gil throw actually work? I'm sceptical about this but might try it.

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Posted: 28th June 2006 22:36
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Umm excuse me you forgot the no Omnislash tactics aswell! Emerald is very easy even without KOTR, and hell I hardly build up Chocobos before fighting him.
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Posted: 29th June 2006 14:52

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You can't. You equip an HP Plus as one of two materia you MUST equip. Does that make sense?

Does the 1,500,000 gil throw actually work? I'm sceptical about this but might try it.

I'm a little bit curious about this tip as well but I can't try it out myself because I'm only at Shinra Mansion getting Vincent. Post here if it works please.
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