CoN 25th Anniversary: 1997-2022
Clans in Final Fantasy XII

Posted: 29th November 2005 14:02

Group Icon
Dude on a Walrus
Posts: 3,944

Joined: 16/10/2003

Awards:
Celebrated the CoN 20th Anniversary at the forums. Member of more than ten years. Major involvement in the Final Fantasy VI section of CoN. Major involvement in the Final Fantasy V section of CoN. 
Member of more than five years. Third place in CoNCAA, 2005. First place in CoN Fantasy Football, 2005. Has more than fifty news submissions to CoN. 
See More (Total 9)
According to rpgfan.com, Famitsu magazine stated earlier this week that Final Fantasy XII will implement a clan system, not unlike the clan system from FF Tactics Advance. The clan system will allow the player to partake in specific quests provided by the clan and shop in clan-exclusive shops, plus possibly more unrevealed featues.

It seems unlikely to me that the clan system will feature prominently in the game's plot, as it would be make plot advancement seem somewhat awkward. I'm inclined to think that the clan system will allow the player to join one of multiple clans and have the clan serve as the means for taking part in sidequests, rather than drive the action as the clan/mission system did in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Still, love or hate this new clan system, a great deal of FF XII is a mystery as of now, so all we can do is speculate and hope that this next big title in our favorite RPG series lives up to its predecessors.

Final Fantasy XII, masterminded by Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy Tactics director Yasumi Matsuno, will be released in Japan on March 16th, 2006 and in the US on August 1st, 2006, barring future delays.

This post has been edited by Rangers51 on 29th November 2005 14:16

--------------------
Post #103895
Top
Posted: 29th November 2005 14:49

Group Icon
Wild 'n Wooly Shambler
Posts: 1,279

Joined: 6/6/2004

Awards:
Member of more than ten years. Member of more than five years. Has more than fifteen fanarts in CoN galleries. Has more than fifty news submissions to CoN. 
I really wonder how that's gonna work here. Will you get to join more than one clan at a time, seeing as it appears your party's split up for much of the game? I only played a small amount of FFTA too, so I'm a bit foreign to the concept.

Not that I particularly plan on getting this game anyhow. My mind had already been made up before, but my opinion towards it kinda sank even more upon playing the demo. I really didn't enjoy that...

--------------------
Words of Wisdom:

If something can go wrong, it will.

If anything simply cannot go wrong, it will anyway.

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong.
- Murphy’s Law

Boing! Zoom! - Mr. Saturn
Post #103898
Top
Posted: 29th November 2005 17:18

*
Maniacal Clown
Posts: 5,480

Joined: 31/10/2003

Awards:
Third place in CoNCAA, 2019. Celebrated the CoN 20th Anniversary at the forums. Voted for all the fanart in the CoNvent Calendar 2015. Voted for all the fanart in the CoNvent Calendar 2014. 
User has rated 75 fanarts in the CoN galleries. Member of more than ten years. Contributed to the Final Fantasy VI section of CoN. User has rated 25 fanarts in the CoN galleries. 
See More (Total 9)
Now, I haven't played the FFXII demo that I heard came out recently, but still...I've been looking for FFTA-style clan management RPing online for a while (see topic here), but it seems, according to this report, that that won't be the focus of the game. Well, then again, it's not a MMRPG.

What other types of FFTA-specific things will appear? Ezel? Judges and Laws? Tactical gameplay (I think not, judging from the few screenshots I've seen of it)? Totema?

--------------------
Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing.

You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey )
Post #103918
Top
Posted: 29th November 2005 19:37

*
Magitek Soldier
Posts: 343

Joined: 2/11/2005

Awards:
Member of more than ten years. Member of more than five years. 
I'm wondering why they didn't just make for Gamecube... seems reasonable since it's based on a GBA game.

--------------------
Quote
Do you think we're forever?
Post #103936
Top
Posted: 29th November 2005 20:01

Group Icon
Wild 'n Wooly Shambler
Posts: 1,279

Joined: 6/6/2004

Awards:
Member of more than ten years. Member of more than five years. Has more than fifteen fanarts in CoN galleries. Has more than fifty news submissions to CoN. 
But it's not based on a GBA game.

FFXII may take place in the same world as FF Tactics and Tactics Advance (Ivalice), and even contains a similar system that happens to be present in the latter, but the game isn't based on FFTA at all. Nowhere even close...

--------------------
Words of Wisdom:

If something can go wrong, it will.

If anything simply cannot go wrong, it will anyway.

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong.
- Murphy’s Law

Boing! Zoom! - Mr. Saturn
Post #103938
Top
Posted: 29th November 2005 23:56

*
Dragoon
Posts: 1,838

Joined: 3/2/2004

Awards:
Member of more than ten years. Member of more than five years. 
Yay! it may (if there is no delays) come out on my birthday August 1st biggrin.gif next year! The clan system sounds interesting, but well have to wait and see what it is like.
Post #103957
Top
Posted: 30th November 2005 00:27

*
Dragoon
Posts: 1,897

Joined: 22/12/2003

Awards:
Vital involvement in the Final Fantasy IX section of CoN. Member of more than ten years. Second place in the Final Fantasy Music CoNtest, 2010-2011 Member of more than five years. 
Hmm, I'm wary of the clan idea, but this could end up being a well-executed display of fleshing out FFT's Proposition system. And since this is comin' out on the sixteenth of March, I may just buy myself an early birthday present...

--------------------
It's gonna be a glorious day
I feel my luck can change
Post #103963
Top
Posted: 30th November 2005 01:03

*
Magitek Soldier
Posts: 343

Joined: 2/11/2005

Awards:
Member of more than ten years. Member of more than five years. 
Silverfork, if it's uses not only the world but also has similar dynamics (clans), as well as races (none of which appear FFT for PS) then I'd have re-affirm my previous statement. FF XII is based on FFTA, ok? biggrin.gif

--------------------
Quote
Do you think we're forever?
Post #103966
Top
Posted: 1st December 2005 12:29

Group Icon
Wild 'n Wooly Shambler
Posts: 1,279

Joined: 6/6/2004

Awards:
Member of more than ten years. Member of more than five years. Has more than fifteen fanarts in CoN galleries. Has more than fifty news submissions to CoN. 
But by saying "based on", it made it seem as if you were implying the two games could be related by more than just a few traits and are not indepedant of each other, especially by suggesting it should be on the GameCube. The other FF games, which also share many features, dynamics, and races would not be said to be "based on" one another (except X and X-2, plus the VII gaiden). In other words, the entirety of FFXII isn't grounded in FFTA, but rather contains several nods to it and FFT.

A better, or less confusing statement would probably be "borrows from."

This post has been edited by SilverFork on 1st December 2005 12:57

--------------------
Words of Wisdom:

If something can go wrong, it will.

If anything simply cannot go wrong, it will anyway.

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong.
- Murphy’s Law

Boing! Zoom! - Mr. Saturn
Post #104092
Top
Posted: 1st December 2005 16:26

Group Icon
Dude on a Walrus
Posts: 3,944

Joined: 16/10/2003

Awards:
Celebrated the CoN 20th Anniversary at the forums. Member of more than ten years. Major involvement in the Final Fantasy VI section of CoN. Major involvement in the Final Fantasy V section of CoN. 
Member of more than five years. Third place in CoNCAA, 2005. First place in CoN Fantasy Football, 2005. Has more than fifty news submissions to CoN. 
See More (Total 9)
FF XII is not based off of FFTA. There is no kingdom of Dalamasca, no Archadian empire, no sky pirates, and no Seeqs in Tactics Advance, while there are no Judges, no Nu Mou, and no modern world/Grimoire world in FF XII. Yasumi Matsuno was a major director, producer, and scenario planner for Tactics, Tactics Advance, and Vagrant Story, and he borrows many ideas and names from his earlier games to use in FF XII. FF XII is NOT based off of Tactics Advance.

--------------------
Post #104110
Top
Posted: 1st December 2005 20:57

*
Magitek Soldier
Posts: 319

Joined: 1/10/2005

Awards:
Member of more than ten years. Member of more than five years. 
I liked the clan system in FFTA. My interest in this installment has raised now. This morning I wasn't expecting much since the main character seems worse than Tidus. Of course, I can't really make any judgements until it comes out...

--------------------
Neneko is Neneko because Neneko couldn't be Neneko if Neneko wasn't Neneko!
--as quoted from Neneko, Mahoraba {Heartful Days}

I can stab a man with a thick paperback book thru the ribcage.
Post #104123
Top
Posted: 2nd December 2005 04:57

*
Maniacal Clown
Posts: 5,480

Joined: 31/10/2003

Awards:
Third place in CoNCAA, 2019. Celebrated the CoN 20th Anniversary at the forums. Voted for all the fanart in the CoNvent Calendar 2015. Voted for all the fanart in the CoNvent Calendar 2014. 
User has rated 75 fanarts in the CoN galleries. Member of more than ten years. Contributed to the Final Fantasy VI section of CoN. User has rated 25 fanarts in the CoN galleries. 
See More (Total 9)
Quote (laszlow @ 1st December 2005 11:26)
FF XII is not based off of FFTA. There is no kingdom of Dalamasca, no Archadian empire, no sky pirates, and no Seeqs in Tactics Advance, while there are no Judges, no Nu Mou, and no modern world/Grimoire world in FF XII. Yasumi Matsuno was a major director, producer, and scenario planner for Tactics, Tactics Advance, and Vagrant Story, and he borrows many ideas and names from his earlier games to use in FF XII. FF XII is NOT based off of Tactics Advance.

There are no Nu Mou? How's the...well, I guess Matsuno could simply use the "clan" concept, without necessarily using any of the character classes or other gameplay aspects of FFTA.

I can see why there wouldn't be a Grimoire/real world dichotomy, of course.

--------------------
Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing.

You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey )
Post #104164
Top
Posted: 14th December 2005 13:26

*
Returner
Posts: 13

Joined: 29/9/2004

Awards:
Member of more than five years. 
Quote (laszlow @ 1st December 2005 11:26)
FF XII is not based off of FFTA. There is no kingdom of Dalamasca, no Archadian empire, no sky pirates, and no Seeqs in Tactics Advance, while there are no Judges, no Nu Mou, and no modern world/Grimoire world in FF XII. Yasumi Matsuno was a major director, producer, and scenario planner for Tactics, Tactics Advance, and Vagrant Story, and he borrows many ideas and names from his earlier games to use in FF XII. FF XII is NOT based off of Tactics Advance.

I don't agree wholly with that. Well, the Judges part at least.

I was reading Game Informer Magazine yesterday, and I saw a screenshot with the ingame text: "We Judges keep order" or something of that nature. So, naturally, I took it to the internet.

The following was taken from the GameSpy website. I've seen similar information all over.

Quote
Getting back to Matsuno, the game contains many elements he introduced in Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced. Of course there will be Chocobos, Moogles, and the like, but there will also be Bangaa, Viera, and judges. The Bangaa and Viera are races that debuted in FFTA, while judges were knights that maintained order in that game's version of Ivalice. Unlike the noble judges of FFTA, the judges are your adversaries. "They are judges of terror," says Matsuno. The character depicted in the game's logo is one of these fearsome judges.


So, yes, Judges to make an appearance. Just in a different light.

--------------------
What will you do with your empire?
http://www.finalhero.com/click.php?id=710
Build an alliance with me, and create your own kingdom.

http://evilmunsinc.forumco.com/
Join the Evil Muns forums. Role Playing, writing, and crazyness within.
Post #105136
Top
Posted: 14th December 2005 18:43

*
Maniacal Clown
Posts: 5,480

Joined: 31/10/2003

Awards:
Third place in CoNCAA, 2019. Celebrated the CoN 20th Anniversary at the forums. Voted for all the fanart in the CoNvent Calendar 2015. Voted for all the fanart in the CoNvent Calendar 2014. 
User has rated 75 fanarts in the CoN galleries. Member of more than ten years. Contributed to the Final Fantasy VI section of CoN. User has rated 25 fanarts in the CoN galleries. 
See More (Total 9)
Quote (Damien Valar)
Quote (GameSpy)
Getting back to Matsuno, the game contains many elements he introduced in Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced. Of course there will be Chocobos, Moogles, and the like, but there will also be Bangaa, Viera, and judges. The Bangaa and Viera are races that debuted in FFTA, while judges were knights that maintained order in that game's version of Ivalice. Unlike the noble judges of FFTA, the judges are your adversaries. "They are judges of terror," says Matsuno. The character depicted in the game's logo is one of these fearsome judges.


Whoa...does that mean that the plot won't suck this time? Maybe they'll end up with a plot somewhat related to the "Final Fantasy Advance: The Book of Hope" story that I'm currently creating out of frustration with the plot of FFTA.

--------------------
Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing.

You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey )
Post #105157
Top
Posted: 26th December 2005 21:48

*
Treasure Hunter
Posts: 50

Joined: 21/12/2005

Awards:
Member of more than ten years. Member of more than five years. 
hayha....the plots gonna suk... but the play will be interesting i hope.
Post #105769
Top
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members: