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Ok, aside from the obvious games (such as certain entries into the Saga series) what long running or semi-long running rpg series do you think won't have another sequel? The last game was so bad that you don't think the game company will make another one?

My guess is that there will be no Breath of Fire VI. Of course with my luck someone will pop in and tell me that there is going to be one. Now I"m not necessarily saying that I don't think they should make one, I'm just saying that I don't think they will.

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I have to disagree with you there, Elena. Capcom is notorious for rolling out sequels, spinoffs, and rehashes more than any other company and I'm sure that there will be another Breath of Fire, even if it isn't for another three years. Plus, I think that Dragon Quarter sold decently in Japan, probably decently enough for a future sequel.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there will never be another Bloody Roar game. If I'm not mistaken, there have been six entries to that series, but no desperately-needed engine reworkings since the second game in the series. It's popularity is low, it's gameplay is awful, and spiffy graphics and zoanthropic characters aren't enough to merit a game that will sell very well. There hasn't been a worthwhile buy in this series since Bloody Roar II, IMHO.

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Arc the Lad.

That series as good as dead. Atleast judging by the last one.

I don't see another Mystical Ninja port coming to the US. I just doubt they will even if they release in Japan.

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Well, after the first Chrono Trigger, I predicted that there wouldn't be another Chrono Trigger series game. Then Chrono Cross occured. So that's out.

I could safely say that FFI and FFV probably won't have any sequels. But that's within a series of more-or-less unconnected games.

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The Street Fighter series. But that's more of a fact than an opinion .

If I could go off on a tangent here, I certainly HOPE that Megaman finally dies, seeing as the latest games have been beating the life out of a once-great series.

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I find your lack of faith disturbing...

if we are talking about what game has enough sequals ummmmmmmm mega man or maybe to many man.

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Why is it that rpg's are now a dying breed?

I haven't seen another Grandia, though they were a great series. Or a Star Ocean, save for III. I'd like to see both continue for a while, but I think their companies have moved on

King's Fields aren't very popular, so I guess they won't make another.

Those're the only ones for me, I reckon.

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I haven't seen another Grandia, though they were a great series. Or a Star Ocean, save for III. I'd like to see both continue for a while, but I think their companies have moved on

Grandia III comes out in Japan near the end of this year, and we're receiving it sometime undetermined next year. I absolutely loved Grandia I and II, so I'm looking forward to the next one; Grandia Xtreme was a bit of an experiment for Enix I think, but they'll learn from all those storyline and world-design mistakes, hopefully.

And why do you think Star Ocean is dying out? The last one was only two years ago in release, I'm betting we see SO4 within three years, especially since Squenix has proven to be sequel-whores recently; Hell, they'll probably remake the original SO before too long, given their recent history of doing that for DQ and FF games.

Another series that I think might be gone for good is Ape Escape. The first one was awesome to the extreme, the next two were meh, and the PSP remake of the first one was also meh. Sony isn't going to invest any more in to a one-trick pony.

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Actually, Grandia III comes out sometime this year in Japan, I think, or maybe early next year. Don't know if a localization has been announced yet. Anyway, it looks really really good.

As much as I'd like one, I don't think there will be another Earthbound.

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Oops, I started typing this post like 30 minutes ago and had to go do stuff, so laszlow beat me to it.

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Well as of yet I still don't see a regular platform Donkey Kong coming out. I thought the jungle beat one was sorta weird.

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As much as I'd like one, I don't think there will be another Earthbound.

And that is why Nintendo and I have a shakey relationship. I was impressed by Ness and his level in Super Smash Bros Melee, I don't see why they couldn't have made a whole game like that level.

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I'm with Phunbaba, I think we've seen the last of 'ol Arc

The Chrono series. Time and time again they've talked about the third installment, but it has never happened.

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The Chrono series. Time and time again they've talked about the third installment, but it has never happened.

Actually, after knowing the plot of Chrono Trigger, I predicted (while I was still immature) that Square wouldn't spoil it by making a sequel of it.

But they did. I personally refuse to play Chrono Cross, since my interpretation of the world of Chrono Trigger is distinctly different from that set out in CC. But I'm still disappointed that they jumped onto that cash cow.

So...in conclusion: you never know.

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But they did.  I personally refuse to play Chrono Cross, since my interpretation of the world of Chrono Trigger is distinctly different from that set out in CC.  But I'm still disappointed that they jumped onto that cash cow.

Hmm, well Chrono Trigger left us gamers with one huge loose end:

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What happened to Schala? After saving y'all from certain annihilation at the hands of Lavos in the Undersea Palace, she up and disappeared .

Given that question, I actually did expect a follow-up of some sort, sooner or later, and, to be honest, I actually enjoyed it more than Chrono Trigger.


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I could safely say that FFI and FFV probably won't have any sequels.  But that's within a series of more-or-less unconnected games.

The post-game FFV anime could count as a sequel, no? Then again, I dunno if it should be considered canon; although Square gave its creators permission, they had no hand in its production...

I agree it isn't looking too good for EarthBound 2/Mother 3. There was a blurb 'bout a year ago claiming the game was once again in development, or heading that way, but it doesn't appear as though that lasted very long.

'Nother one I'd like to see, but won't ever have the opportunity to see, is Jet Force Gemini 2. Not that it was a long-running series to begin with, nor an RPG...

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After a long line of Megaman games, I don't think there's gonna be anymore, though I can't say the same thing for the MMX series. But I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled out Megaman 9, would Rockman and Forte be considered part 9?

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Glenn, you really should play CC, it's an AMAZING game. It's my 3rd favorite game, while CT isn't even in my top 5 (don't hurt me)! You REALLY have to pay attention in the end or the plot will make no sense whatsoever, but it's a great game.

Anyway, I think I can safely say that there WILL be more Megaman games, and LOTS OF 'EM. They've been milkin' the MM cash cow for ages, and I don't think they'll stop anytime soon.l

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I'm guessing that there won't be a Lunar 3, which saddens me. Working Designs seems to have dedicated its efforts elsewhere, on things like Lunar: Dragon Song (I think?) that are more spin-offs than sequels and that deviate substantially from the precedents set by the other two games in the series.

I don't really see any more Seiken Densetsu sequels, either, but that's not really sad given how Legend of Mana turned out.



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^ World of Mana comes out next year in Japan. I'm excited.

And IMO, Chrono Cross is one of the most divisive games ever. There are equally vocal populations that love it and hate it, with proportions of both groups loving and not loving Chrono Trigger. I personally think that Chrono Trigger is one of the best RPGs ever conceived (it's tied for my favorite all-time with SoA) and that Chrono Cross did a lot of things very well and a lot of things quite badly.

And Glenn, calling CC a true sequel and refusing to play it for said reason is kinda ridiculous. Refusing to acknowledge its place in the storyline because of one's preferences for the past is almost like saying that the Confederacy still exists. And on another note, of course Square won't sequelize old FF games. They simply were released too long ago to become part of Squenix's sequel-whoring trend of recent times. Making a "prediction" like that is like predicting that there will never be a sequel to On the Waterfront that stars Marlon Brando, because Marlon Brando's dead.

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And Glenn, calling CC a true sequel and refusing to play it for said reason is kinda ridiculous. Refusing to acknowledge its place in the storyline because of one's preferences for the past is almost like saying that the Confederacy still exists.

Oh c'mon, it's only a game!

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What happened to Schala?

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I decided that Circe was one of her descendants, and that Schala's magic power was passed onto this one (or more) persons living in the 1999 A.D. era. According to me, it is unknown when Schala was 'dropped off' by the time warp, but she was 'dropped off' sometime before the Ancient Greeks.

Whatever. Not like it makes much sense anyways, but for another things, I'm too lazy to get myself even as little as a PS emulator and the CC ISO. Plus, the filesize is huge. AND I don't have a PS; nor do I know anyone with the actual CD for CC.

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What the hell? Circe had her powers because she was a descendant of Helios, who was the son of Hyperion, who was born from Gaea and Oranos (Medea is either her sister or her niece, I'm not sure which, and she has her magic powers for the same reason). I have no idea why you're trying to insert CT into Greek myth (or any "real" history whatsoever), but that just doesn't make sense. I was almost a classics major, you know.

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Ok, aside from the obvious games (such as certain entries into the Saga series) what long running or semi-long running rpg series do you think won't have another sequel? The last game was so bad that you don't think the game company will make another one?

My guess is that there will be no Breath of Fire VI. Of course with my luck someone will pop in and tell me that there is going to be one. Now I"m not necessarily saying that I don't think they should make one, I'm just saying that I don't think they will.

I think everyone has it wrong.

There will be another Breath of Fire but right now Capcom is deeply trying to focus on more of it’s more successful series since they seems to be hinting close at running out of money.

Breath of Fire V like most of the PS2 RPGs were run by a new brand of RPG makers, a new generation. Now the problem with this generation is, instead of creating a new formula with a new game, they played with successful game brand titles and pretty much screwed the entire brand. Final Fantasy Series, Xenosaga Series, Breath of Fire series, Suikoden Series, and pretty much every Japanese RPG series.

With this generation, they destroyed Japan’s dominance of the RPG genre. Instead of PS again being the RPG king this time around, they effectly lost out to the Xbox. Every RPG released on the Xbox after a certain point in time became a world hit. Who would of thought the xbox or pretty much the west would control the RPG market.

Now western angst filled teenage kids still claim Japan still makes the top RPGs and that the RPGs on the Xbox and PC are not truly RPGs because they don’t follow the same turned based formula. Problem is the turned based formula was copied for D&D games which they claim D&D games are not truly RPGs either. However, what they refuse to comment on is whether the new generation of Japanese RPG makers taking out turned based are truly RPGs, which is they’re only claim to what an RPG really is.

Breath of Fire V took a popular and respected genre and rehashed it with new ideas which did sit well with regular fans. If anything if they make a sequel, it would be going back to there roots unless Capcom wants to do an Nintendo and not listen to the fans and wonder why people don’t buy there products as much.

I doubt you will see many good RPGs coming out from Japan and going on the PS2 or PS3. Hell, the Xbox 360 already has one of it’s first games coming out for the system that is going to be a block buster. Pretty much what this new Generation of game makers in Japan never learned from there previous generation was don’t treat the American consumers like idiots. Don’t give them half made products and release a better version in your home country.

They never learned this and have deeply suffered. For the Xbox 360 most of the Japanese Makers we know and love are making a return and are creating games exclusively for this system.

Don’t get me wrong, some of the ideas for new game play in these RPGs by Japanese Game makers are interesting, well most are boring (Play Xenosaga I and II and you will understand boring) and I like new ideas for games. Great ideas keep the industry moving. But please, don’t mess with popular series and pretty much destroy the original formula almost completely and expect people to still like it!

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