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Posted: 8th July 2005 03:30

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This Nintendo Power stuff were Cecil looks like He-Man, Kain looks like a figure from an Egyptian bass-relief, and Edward anacronistically looks like a refugee from Baten Kaitos... Does anyone know who drew these?

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Posted: 8th July 2005 03:40

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Posted: 8th July 2005 03:55

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LOL. oh, my.
Look at how bubbly his rear looks. Hmm.
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Posted: 8th July 2005 04:00

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I have no idea about their origins, but, I like them. smile.gif

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Posted: 8th July 2005 05:05

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Yeah, I remember these. They actually have a pretty decent one of Cecil on the airship. Pretty obviously an artist's interpretation, since not even the sprites look like this, but interesting anyway. I dub them "official fanart."

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Posted: 8th July 2005 10:53

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The origin was Nintendo Power's review and mini-walkthrough of the SNES cart in '91. Kame was kind enough to send her scans since I was too lazy to get my copy when I went back to my parents' house.

I don't recall them being sourced in the issue, but I would imagine that they were produced by some poorly paid monkey on the NP art direction team.

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Posted: 8th July 2005 13:35

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Does not look like Final fantasy.

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Posted: 8th July 2005 18:21

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Posted: 9th July 2005 00:12

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Wow, that brings back memories. I actually had that issue of Nintendo Power back in the day. I would have to agree it was some NP artist who was commissioned to do them, and did so without much regard for the Amano art.

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Posted: 9th July 2005 02:14

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Or without much regard to the game, period. I mean, are those dreadlocks on Cain's head? Did Gilbert's/Edward's harp morph into a sitar?

I remember looking at a friend's copy way back when, before I ever played or was familiar with the game (I wasn't a subscriber). They're great drawings, but looking at them a second time, jeez - those interpretations sure are, uh, different.

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Posted: 9th July 2005 10:50

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Eeeh... different is exactely the right word. I wonder if the one who drew these ever did so much as look at the game for which he was doing the art. Ah well... I remember a comic for Lufia II that came out here and had simliar designs, though there the characters looked a tad more like the game sprites.
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Posted: 10th July 2005 07:05

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I have a theory about the artist responsible for these drawings. The same artist who drew these drew some of the better stuff from Nintendo Power's Secret of Mana Special and the Link to the Past and Link's Awakening strategy books published by the same.

Through some rather thorough elimination of contributing artist's names in several NP issues, I've deterimed that the artist must be Terada Katsuya, who is known to draw comics for Dark Horse and covers for Marvel, but is perhaps best known as the character designer for the anime Blood: The Last Vampire.

Compare:
http://www.catsuka.com/interf/insolite/terada/terra074.jpg
http://www.catsuka.com/interf/insolite/terada/terra037.jpg
http://www.catsuka.com/interf/insolite/ter...haracterz04.jpg
http://www.catsuka.com/interf/insolite/ter...vdbox_cover.jpg

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Posted: 10th July 2005 07:42

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Yeah, I remember these. They actually have a pretty decent one of Cecil on the airship. Pretty obviously an artist's interpretation, since not even the sprites look like this, but interesting anyway. I dub them "official fanart."

Since when does Cecil wield a spear?
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Posted: 10th July 2005 17:08

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Yeah, I remember these.  They actually have a pretty decent one of Cecil on the airship.  Pretty obviously an artist's interpretation, since not even the sprites look like this, but interesting anyway.  I dub them "official fanart."

Since when does Cecil wield a spear?

As far off as these pictures are, I wouldn't say for sure that it's not supposed to be Cecil. Or Porom, for that matter. Probably Kain, though.

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Posted: 12th July 2005 02:42

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Looks like artist took a look at the sprites and guessed how they should look. It's a good style, but it's probably better suited to Dragon Warrior.
Cecil's the only one that looks correct. I remember mentioning in an old fanart thread how he doesn't wear pants.

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Since when does Cecil wield a spear?

As far off as these pictures are, I wouldn't say for sure that it's not supposed to be Cecil. Or Porom, for that matter. Probably Kain, though.

Kain doesn't have a cape.
It actually looks closest to Cecil. He is the only one who wears heavy armor and his head is open enough for his hair to flow freely like that.
Besides, that doesn't look like a spear at all. It's probably a Halberd.

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Posted: 14th July 2005 04:25

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blink.gif Whoa, those are strange. I guess you could possibly stretch the Cecil and Edward images from the sprties but WTF happened to Kain? His armor's all off and he isn't even the right color. I'd never had guessed that there were FF IV chars if I weren't blatently told so, although I must admit Cecil could definatly pass for a FF Origins Knight. Here's a sprite for comparison:

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Kinda makes you wonder how much material these gaming companys reuse, doesn't it?

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Posted: 14th July 2005 05:21

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Wait, I got it! Look at how similar those two look! The artist must have messed up and drawn pictures of the characters from the JAPANESE FF2! I'm not joking, either. Those are so incredibly similar, even down to the thing sticking up in front of the head!

But seriously, if I saw THOSE drawings the first time I ever heard of FFVI... I probably never would've played it. Or I'd become gay. It's a lose/lose situation.

Hehe, next time I play FFVI, I am SO going to call Cecil He-man...

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Posted: 14th July 2005 06:14

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I dunno. That knight sprite's from FFI in Origins, if I'm not mistaken. Besides, the illustrations don't look a thing like the FFIIj characters to me. The pic of Cecil, I guess, kinda resembles Guy, but with a different outfit and hair...and not as fat, and with a different skin tone and...

Y'know, just forget that whole comment.

Can't really see the similarities between the other two and anyone else. If it were the case that the artist drew characters from FFIIj, they'd still look even more off than they do as IV's characters.

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Posted: 14th July 2005 06:37

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the person who drew these must have been given information about the character
but no actual guidelines to how they should look

when you look at cecil he must have only been told the words "knight"

as for kain he probably heard about how he follows the long line of dragoons
and fiqured to base him off of the earliest known civilization to have an army, with spears as weaopns. (pretty much egypt because it's the most well-known)

and as for edward he probably only heard the words "spoony bard"

i find these rather amusing for how horrible they are it actually made me laugh
which begs the question; where did you find these images for ffiv

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Posted: 15th July 2005 21:20

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I looked at the Nintendo Power Nov. 1991 issue (vol. 30 - Nov 1991) and I couldn't find an artists credit directly on the illustrations in question. I did find though...

In the NP staff:

Art Director - Yoshi Orimo

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Illustators - Nob-Rin Takagi, Hiroko Nagami, Katusya(sic) Tarada, Jeff Hazard.

Poster Art - Bryan L. Ballinger

I personally like Cid sitting on the can the best. (Well, he's not really on the can, it just reminds me of it!)

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Posted: 15th July 2005 22:18

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Those drawings were pretty brutal... Cecil didn't look toooo bad as a drawing of some wierd knight but it didn't look like Cecil. But the job of Kain was by far the worst... I don't even know where to start and I don't think I will just look at the drawings for yourselves.

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Posted: 15th July 2005 22:41

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That one of Cid is probably the most "off" of all...

Fork, that was just a random joke of mine that made no sense. I make a lot of those, you'll have to get used to it tongue.gif

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Posted: 16th July 2005 01:28

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Wow...I...don't know how to describe these...wait, yes i do *BARF*. Can I get a mop over here?

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Posted: 23rd July 2005 16:08

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the guy who drew that deseves to be shot....twice

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Posted: 23rd July 2005 16:14

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but, then again some of the original art doesnt look like the characters >[URL=http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/10-tidus-a2.jpg]
the ones off FF4 must have been the original skeches but they cant have made them look that real because FF4 is all pixelated, thank god they didnt look like that...

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Posted: 23rd July 2005 16:44

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I am shocked and chagrined by the first set of drawings.

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Posted: 24th July 2005 17:59

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but, then again some of the original art doesnt look like the characters >[URL=http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/10-tidus-a2.jpg]

That's because that's art by Amano, not Nomura. Nomura designed Tidus with all the art we know and, uh, cough, love, and then Amano drew some sketches based on that. So they're also kind of "official fanart."

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Posted: 28th July 2005 18:22
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Ugh, I've always said that I hated Amano, but this is worse.

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Posted: 29th July 2005 13:31

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aaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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why would you show me these things?
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Posted: 29th July 2005 15:31

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karasuman, it was stated earlier in this thread that Amano did NOT draw those. Besides, even if we didn't know WHO drew them, it looks nothing like Amano's style.

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