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does anyone else think that the nintendo ds was a really bad gaming system i was really bummed out as i paid 100 pound for it and it was really a waste of time has no good games and the only ones that are good have the playability of well nothing. the best feature is the picto chat now that is awesome but does anyone agree it was a ninty blowout?

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Locke: Moogles...! Are you saying you want to help me?

Are you old?

Cause "ninty" is more of a 12- kids console or childish people it may be your opnion but alot of people are childish and like the nintendo ds.

As for myself I almost ONLY Bought the console cause all the mario and one ff game is on it.

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Quote (final_fantasy_freak_uk @ 26th July 2005 15:37)

i was really bummed out as i paid 100 pound for it and it was really a waste of time has no good games and the only ones that are good have the playability of well nothing

I don't understand--if the games aren't playable, how are they good games? And why would you purchase a console that didn't have any games you wanted to play released on it?

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i meant how long they lasted sorry i thought wario ware was going to be a good game but it was over in an hour and also im 15 so nah im not reslly old but the psp should be really good

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Locke: Moogles...! Are you saying you want to help me?

I think it's just because you bought a system because it was original and had potential withought actually checking to see if there were any games that looked good on it! I never buy any system until I see that it's gonna have a good lineup.

But wait a while, there's a BUNCH of good games coming out for the DS in the near future, so don't give up and sell it just yet.

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spiffyness its too late ive already sold it the line up of games were taking too long to come out as they have some half decent games coming out in the near future i also needed the cash but over all its just arr words cant describe how much i wish i never bought it haha

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Locke: Moogles...! Are you saying you want to help me?

yea the DS was annoying

i didn't like the touch system at all
i like games where i control the characters, not build barriers around them as they fall, and stuff like that
the touch system should only be used for a 1/20 of the game, not the majority

i'm glad i didn't buy a DS

but i'm still go to take a look at the next GB system

and from what i've heard from people the PSP is just awsome
so between the two; PSP kicked DS in the shins and stole its lunch money

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Quote (Suik_O_Den_Genso @ 26th July 2005 16:02)

Are you old?

Cause "ninty" is more of a 12- kids console or childish people it may be your opnion but alot of people are childish and like the nintendo ds.

As for myself I almost ONLY Bought the console cause all the mario and one ff game is on it.

I don't really understand what you're gettin' at there, but I assume you're calling Nintendo a "kiddy" company. A lot of older folks are Nintendo fans though, as they grew up playing their games. So I'd have to disagree with you there.

Anyways, I like the DS. Sure, many of its "big name" games don't live up to expectations (and many do), but several of the generally ignored ones are great. Then again, I've never bought a whopping amount of games for handhelds, so I haven't frequently gone around shopping for DS titles. I will say that to me so far, the DS has had more tempting games lined up for it than the PSP has. And I legally haven't been a kid for quite a few years, so I can safely say my age has no relevance.

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however, the ds has ff3 coming out on it eventually(first release in an english country), but they'll probably mangle it, and censor it, and all that crap.

Why would they do that? Nintendo hasn't forced censorship on any game since the mid-90's and were only extremely strict about it for a two or three year period (and keep in mind that was just Nintendo of America's doing, not the whole company's fault). Personally, I think Square did a fine job of mangling FF's I & II in Dawn of Souls, so I'd leave it up to them to potentially screw up FFIII.

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I really like my DS... am I the only one?

No. No you're not.

I love my DS to death. The touch screen is a great idea, especially for shooters and games like Trace Memory. The sound quality is amazing, and it plays GBA games, d00d!

I like the PSP, but it's not as good. Why? It's fragile, it has poorer sound (due to smaller speakers), and has NO INNOVATION AT ALL.
Yeah, innovation is a big deal. The DS is overflowing with it, and a prime example is Nintendogs. When I first saw it, I was like "Yeah, right. Like any grown person would buy that." I find myself now eagerly awaiting August for its release.

So what if teh PSP has better graphics? The PS2 has crappy graphics, yet it sold the best. Hmmm.....
Also, since when do graphics matter if the games are great? What's that? You don't like any of the games? Heh. Currently, I own one game. SM64DS. I got my DS in January. Why not buy any other games? Because the great ones come out this Fall and Winter. E3 saw some BADASS DS games, but only ONE PSP game was given any awards on any show/website: Infected. Why? Well because it had some innovation. Besides the new consoles, what was the biggest part of E3? FFXII, Zelda, and the DS. It's painfully obvious, isn't it?

For you non-believers, here's a list of great DS titles (and mostly upcoming ones):
-Trace Memory
-Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
-Nintendogs
-Advance Wars: Dual Strike
-Meteos
-Electroplankton
-Super Mario 64DS
-Kirby: Canvas Curse
-Nanostray
-Madden 2006
-Lunar: Dragon Song
-Lost in Blue
-Viewtiful Joe
-Metroid Prime: Hunters
-Mario Kart DS (Online)
-Final Fantasy III
-Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (Online)
-Animal Crossing (Online)
-Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
-Metroid Pinball
-Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
-Snowbaord Kids DS
-Top Spin 2
-Trauma Center: Under the Knife
-Mario and Luigi 2
-Guilty Gear Dust Strikers

There. I strongly urge you not to sell it, as it'll be of great benefit to you in the coming months. Thats a VERY impressive line-up, undoubtedly.
So, in conclusion, it is my honest opnion that the DS is a fantastic handheld, and Nintendo's best yet. Game on, d00dz. Seacrest, out!



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i didnt like thing, it was a pretty bad console, it was released only to be blown out by the psp, warioware touched was quite good tho, it just got really boring after a while.

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I'm personally looking forward to Mario and Luigi 2, Metroid Prime Hunters (the demo kicks all booty!), Nintendogs, FFIII, online Animal Crossing, and maybe even Trauma Center: Under the Knife, 'cause that's bound to be entertaining and innovative...and gorey. I'd actually forgotten 'bout some of these.

I don't know how anyone can call it a bad handheld, unless they really aren't giving it a chance due to bias or otherwise. You can't expect all the good games to come out in one lump sum. It's only natural for it to take some time before the quality starts flowing for newer consoles, as many were just in development when it was released.

And it certainly hasn't been "blown out by the psp (sic)." It's still much too early to make that call. 'Sides, it practically doubles as a GameBoy Advance (remember, DS is backwards compatible), and everyone knows how successful THAT system is. Definitely great for people (like me) who don't own a GBA.



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The DS outclasses the PSP in every aspect (save graphics), including customer support. If you have a few 'dead' pixels on your PSP's screen when it's newly purchased, guess what? You can't return it. If you have a few hundred 'dead' pixels on your PSP's screen when it's newly purchased, guess what? You can't return it.

I'm glad to see a lot of people looking forward to Final Fantasy III on the DS (and not just because it's a Final Fantasy title, hopefully, but because Final Fantasy III is a great game. The battle and job systems rock). I'm wondering how they'll utilize the touch screen. I'm assuming that while on the world map, you'll see the world map on the second screen (and save an enormous amount of MP, not having to waste it on Sight spells). Other than that, I'm not sure.

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I assume that in FFIII you'd use the touch screen for menus. The entire top screen could be the battle, instead of having a menu block the view.

Yeah, the dead pixel thing makes me mad. Its one of the reasons I don't have a PSP as well. I don't want my purchase to be a gamble.

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Same thing here.

And that Metroid Prime: Hunters demo has the BEST CONTROLS of ANY FPS I've ever played. It's like a PC mouse/keyboard combo, but even smoother, 'cause the stylus is faster than a mouse.

I can definately see the DS becoming the first handheld console that's actually GOOD for FPS games, and don't get me started on RTS.

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I'm not going to rag on either of these handhelds, seeing as I enjoy both the PSP and the DS, but I have purchased and will only be purchasing the DS for a variety of reasons.

First off, it's hard to ignore years of handheld dominance from Nintendo. With such experience in the industry concerning handhelds, I trust and expect the DS to deliver more than the PSP as the years pass. Especially considering the upcoming lineup for the DS. What a monster list. In addition, I agree with the many that have mentioned the innovation of the DS. I'm big on innovation and the DS overflows with it. Some may say that the touchscreen is more of an inconvenience than a great new feature, but I can hardly see why. It's true that the touchscreen isn't being used to its full potential yet (although Kirby: Canvas Curse comes awful close to achieving this), but it'll only be a matter of time before third party developers can create entirely new gaming experiences with the DS. I can't even imagine what wierd things Nintendo is going to do with a touchscreen and built-in mic. I mean, just look at Nintendogs, which is taking Japan by storm. Granted, Japan is wierd, but still. I'm also glad someone mentioned the backwards compatibility, since that is one of the greatest features. I especially like the fact that you can stick a Game Boy game in one slot and a DS game in another to switch between games on the fly. Amazing.

I've seen some arguements that the DS is half the system the PSP is due to the PSP's ability to play movies, mp3's, and other media. This is all very true, but personally I don't need any of these features. If I'm going to buy a gaming system, then I'm going to play games on it. I already have an iPod, which is a superior mp3 player, and if you actually buy movies to watch on the PSP, you either burn money for fun or just don't have any sense at all. Who would want to buy a movie only to watch it on the small screen of the PSP which I believe runs out of batteries before some movies are even over. I'll stick to movies in the theater and at home where I can get a better experience all around.

And for everyone who said that the DS got blown out by the PSP, let's remember that the DS is currently outselling the PSP internationally by a large margin. And no, your friends' opinion on how much more suuuper awesumer the PSP iz doesn't count for anything.

In conclusion, the DS is one crazy piece of hardware, and the PSP is just a great piece of hardware.

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Yes. DS PWNZ when it comes to FPSs. AND RTS, and RPGs. Great setup for all of em.




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I like the DS, it is cheaper than the PSP and plays GBA games. Plus there are quite a few games out and coming out im looking forward to as well, i may get one for my birthday (which is in a couple of days), and i prefer the DS to PSP, the PSP has very little games that are even appealing.

Quote (Kappa the Imp @ 27th July 2005 19:53)

I'm not going to rag on either of these handhelds, seeing as I enjoy both the PSP and the DS, but I have purchased and will  only be purchasing the DS for a variety of reasons.

First off, it's hard to ignore years of handheld dominance from Nintendo.  With such experience in the industry concerning handhelds, I trust and expect the DS to deliver more than the PSP as the years pass.  Especially considering the upcoming lineup for the DS.  What a monster list.  In addition, I agree with the many that have mentioned the innovation of the DS.  I'm big on innovation and the DS overflows with it.  Some may say that the touchscreen is more of an inconvenience than a great new feature, but I can hardly see why.  It's true that the touchscreen isn't being used to its full potential yet (although Kirby: Canvas Curse comes awful close to achieving this), but it'll only be a matter of time before third party developers can create entirely new gaming experiences with the DS.  I can't even imagine what wierd things Nintendo is going to do with a touchscreen and built-in mic.  I mean, just look at Nintendogs, which is taking Japan by storm.  Granted, Japan is wierd, but still.  I'm also glad someone mentioned the backwards compatibility, since that is one of the greatest features.  I especially like the fact that you can stick a Game Boy game in one slot and a DS game in another to switch between games on the fly.  Amazing.

I've seen some arguements that the DS is half the system the PSP is due to the PSP's ability to play movies, mp3's, and other media.  This is all very true, but personally I don't need any of these features.  If I'm going to buy a gaming system, then I'm going to play games on it.  I already have an iPod, which is a superior mp3 player, and if you actually buy movies to watch on the PSP, you either burn money for fun or just don't have any sense at all.  Who would want to buy a movie only to watch it on the small screen of the PSP which I believe runs out of batteries before some movies are even over.  I'll stick to movies in the theater and at home where I can get a better experience all around.

And for everyone who said that the DS got blown out by the PSP, let's remember that the DS is currently outselling the PSP internationally by a large margin.  And no, your friends' opinion on how much more suuuper awesumer the PSP iz doesn't count for anything.

In conclusion, the DS is one crazy piece of hardware, and the PSP is just a great piece of hardware.

What he said.

I'd also like to add that price is a very major factor here. I don't particularly care about all of the extraneous things that the PSP can do in half-hearted ways; there are better mp3 players and there are more cost-efficient portable DVD players, to be sure. Nothing the PSP does at this point in time merits its cost - only a truly brilliant game or a drastic drop in price would convince me to purchase it.

I'd also like to add that even though the DS initial lineup was admittedly lackluster, there are quite a few high quality games coming out for it both currently and in the future. I can't stress enough how much Kirby Canvas Curse is a must for any DS owner. Not only is it fun and engaging, it utilizes the touch pad in a way that adds a brand new dimension to the gameplay without muddling the controls or resorting to cheap gimmicks.

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This post has been edited by kuetipo on 7th March 2006 22:10

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No need to be condescending, kuetipo. How do you know if none of us have played a PSP? So just because we prefer the DS based on several positive qualities, that makes us fanboys (or fangirls)? That's pretty illogical reasoning. Though I hate to say it, you're acting more the part right now. If all you're going to do is flame those who don't agree with you then what makes your opinion worth considering? No need to be smug 'bout the PSP's Internet connection either, as the DS is at no loss there (would be kinda hard to play its online games if it didn't have online capabilities).

And I'd like to see you play those NES, SNES, and GBA games on your PSP legally. For the record, that doesn't count as backwards compatibility. That'd be like calling a computer backwards compatible because it can play older ROMs on emulators.

I'd also like to add that this topic isn't even about arguing which system is better. It's about peoples' opinions on the DS. Can't fault anyone for voicing just that.

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This post has been edited by SilverFork on 29th July 2005 17:03

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Boing! Zoom! - Mr. Saturn

AND for the record, with a little device and a flash card, you can have emulators and ROMs on your DS as well! Not sure what it's called, maybe you should google it.

And might I mention it's ILLEGAL.

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Quote (kuetipo @ 29th July 2005 08:04)

jeez. i bet a lot of you people are just fan boys for nintendo.
as for backwards compatability, i can play nes, snes, and gba games on my psp, thanks to
the helpful people of the internet comunity (the internet i am getting from my psp).
and if you haven't played both, just sidescroll of a cliff before you start talking.

Geez, man, who peed in your Wheaties this morning? It's a mark of immaturity when one can't abide a polite difference of opinion without resorting to personal insults.

I'm not planning on purchasing either console. Neither one has a line-up of games or a list of features to justify the price.

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long apology, but due to the need for a cover-up...( i hate myself)

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Quote (kuetipo @ 30th July 2005 06:44)

i would like too appologise for that last post.
my computerhas slowly been dying(no cd drive, lost its second harddrive). and the internet has frequently been inaccesible. im sorry i took it out on the people of this thread.

plz forgive?

i hate wheaties, but thats a good one, karasuman

the ds is kinda nifty actually. i haven't seen a game that really uses the touchpad yet, but the screen is very well protected. and the customer support is great, as someone said erlier(i think). i know someone who sent his back on a broken R buttton, and got it back in, like, two days.

Gee, THATs quite a different tune you're singin now, even if you did have computer troubles.Sure it wasnt just because everyone got mad at you? Nevermind, though... I don't forgive you, as it was VERY out of line and rude, considering that I did NOT tell you you HAD to buy a DS (I only listed games because I RECOMMENDED it), but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I mean, I state my opinion quite cleary, like in the GTA topic, but I don't discriminate against others for their choices. But if its computer trouble, and thats really a good excuse, then sure, I'll forgive. >_>. But as stated earlier, this is not an argument topic. Sorry to go into this Rangers51, but I won't stand by and be "attacked" by another poster for recommending something. So again, sorry for the off-topicness....ness....

However, kuetipo, I do like that you have good things to say about the DS. It leads me to believe that you may have just been upset, as it can easily happen to anyone. Likewise, the PSP has many alluring features. However, for me, as a gamer and the types of games I enjoy, the DS was a better FIRST pic.

If it means anything to you kuetipo, I HAVE played the PSP. In fact, I plan to buy one around Christmas. I listed those games only to show that the DS has a lot to offer. The PSP does as well, but not in the gaming department, IMO. Its more of an entertainment device rather than gaming platform. It has its good games that I enjoy, and heres a list of my favs, in case you wondered (and they are ranked in goodness):

1.) Darkstalkers Chronicles: The Chaos Tower (loved DS3, and this is on the go!)
2.) Lumines
3.) Wipeout Pure

So, there ya go.
I would like to state that I am NOT a fanboy, I just trust Nintendo to never mess up. Why? Because they've yet to let me down. In fact, the DS carries on the tradition of excellence. With a great new approach to games (touch), great speakers, 3D gameplay, great selection of games (post-E3), lots of innovation, online play, and a nice, sleek design, I'd say the DS is a definite winner. Like I said, I recommend it to anyone who just loves to play games. It's a great handheld. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

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Changed BTA to GTA, because I can't spell.

This post has been edited by Shinjutsei on 31st July 2005 06:26

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Eh...I can understand bad days getting ya in a pissy mood; happens to me all the time.

By the way, the PSP is a solid piece of hardware, but I just feel like I get more bang for my buck with the DS.

And I'd like to back up Super Moogle's opinion on Kirby Canvas Curse. I've heard lots of good things and decided to pick it up yesterday. In short, that game is stupid fun!

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Boing! Zoom! - Mr. Saturn

PSP is good except for the screen problems im having... nintendo DS? didnt really like it, the 2nd screen is useless and most games dont even use it! The DS isnt worth what you pay for it.

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This post has been edited by kuetipo on 7th March 2006 22:12

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No, the device isn't illegal. It's just a cartridge with a flash card on it, and you can put movies/music/emulators on it (the movies are okay, but the music is pretty bad 'cause of the GBA speakers, but PERFECT emulation). I'm just saying that emulating in general is illegal, unless of course you have the original game and system.

But who am I kidding, I'm a pirate, too... ARRGGHH!

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