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How can you hate the ending, it really isn't that bad. It might have been able to be better, but it was really retarded.

in my opinion they could have put yuffie and vincent somewhere, weather you got them or not

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And so he slayed Sephiroth...and that was the end

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in my opinion they could have put yuffie and vincent somewhere, weather you got them or not

Considering they would have to render four version of a 150 meg video, I doubt it. That entire ending's an FMV, and you can't simply have or not have a character present in a prerendered video. That's what makes it pre-rendered.

Had it not been an FMV entirely, though, they could've done that and a lot more. For one thing, it could've been longer and covered more things instead of having a vague series of last-minute images.

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the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
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I personally thought it interesting at the time I first saw it, though now, it suffers somewhat in that it is a bit dated and modern technology would allow for further flexibilty in the ending (1 modern DVD can fit all three games discs, plus a few alternative endings, and I dare not dream what they may manage to do with Bluray or better... the 25 GB on a single layer bluray disc could fit pretty much all the numbered pre PS2 FF's onto a single disc and probably with space for tactics and then some) However, just as with pretty much anything becoming obsolete, for the avaiblable tech, it was pretty damn good.

As for actual plot releated factors, what I liked was how it was very ambigious and left the imagination to assume and guess. Having not seent he rest of the ending what with Advent Children not being out yet, I was thinking of cheating and saying no one's really seen the ending yet so no one can really comment.

However, despite the lack of clarity, I did like the ending, and I felt that, whilst it did leave holes, it cleared the situation up. However, I'd have preferred the hole been left open rather than AC filling it, as FF X had a fairly good ending, despite not being one of the better games of the series, and it's extended ending, filling in the small hole, was wedged in too hard and caused some damage. It remains to truly be seen of the actual quality of FF7's ending, but I personally fear the worst



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-Abraham Lincoln, prior to the discovery of Irony.

Ehhh, I think the ending was not that good, some of my friends say it was ok but I think it was not that good.

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I was scared of it all, scared to
fall, and i couldn't even crawl,
when i was forced to run. . .
:-linkin park-:

The ending was good, and it should be left that way. I personally thought that it was a good idea to leave the ending open ended. I just hope that AC won't ruin it like X-2 did to X.

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Music is a mysterious thing... Sometimes, it makes people remember things that they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember them or not...

- Shitan, Xenogears

i liked the ending it was a little comical, but mainly serious
and it fit in with the story
the ending to me was as previously stated "poetic justice"

and my favorite part by far

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when cid drops his cigerette

i just flat out really liked the ending

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"Have you ever seen a baby do that before?"

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and my favorite part by far

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when cid drops his cigerette

i just flat out really liked the ending

yeah, that bit was great. made me laugh.

personally the ending left me thoroughly confused the first time. the more you play it, the more you can interpret [<--why does that look wrong?] and eventually it stops leaving you frustrated, even if you still can't figure out what the heck's supposed to be going on. i do like i though. i hope advent children clears it up, because at the moment that and the ending don't add up.

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The first duty in life is to assume a pose,
and the second duty is...well, no one's found out yet.

yeah, lol, i loved seeing cid shocked - but the ending didnt confuse or frustrate me, personally - it made me wonder at first, but then (i was pretty young when i first played it) i stopped thinking about it and just assumed that it was

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game over for the human race

im not sure if advent will clear up TOO much - other then the fact that we know that there are people around still - my guess is that they'll just work on the plotline for AC, instead of answering any and all questions that ff7 fans have been asking since day one - but they'll prolly give us a little backstory like "oh, after said incident, i did such and such" but not too much is my thought

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a lot of you are talking about

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"red XIII" on the cliff

but if red XIII is 16(i think) by his species standard, and by human standards he is 40, then he can only live around 200-250 years (if my math is right) and the ending after the credits is

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500 year after

the end of the game then red XIII must be

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dead by then, along with everyone else involved in the game

anyway, i would have liked to know what happened to everyone.

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a lot of you are talking about

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"red XIII" on the cliff

but if red XIII is  16(i  think) by his species standard, and by human standards he is 40, then he can only live around 200-250 years (if my math is right) and the ending after the credits is

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500 year after

the end of the game then red XIII must be

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dead by then, along with everyone else involved in the game

anyway, i would have liked to know what happened to everyone.

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Bugenhagen's statement about Red XIII being roughly a 16 year old in Homo Sapien terms was meant merely to convey a sense of how young Nanaki is comparably, not be an exact correlation, which it obviously wasn't due to the ending.

This post has been edited by Squall of SeeD on 17th July 2005 15:35

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plus, im not too sure it says anywere that it is indeed

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500 years after

and it also goes to say that it

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isnt 500 years after, unless the average life span for people on gaia is like 700 years - lookit the trailers for AC

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Slow and steady wont win at the gold saucer
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What are the trailers for AC supposed to tell us about whatever point your trying to make? I saw 'em and I have no idea what your talking about. Squally there is prolly right, but that doesn't keep it from being a cop out on the part of Square. And I do believe it is pointed out that five hundred years have passed.

The ending was a disappointment when I first saw it and it still disappoints me now. It felt abrupt, uninspired, and rushed. The way the credits rolled looked extremely cheap. Compared to the epic ending of it's predecesor, it's a major letdown.

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ok, so 500 years have passed, and cloud and co. are still alive? that is the point

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Slow and steady wont win at the gold saucer
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Two years have passed...

I think it's fair to say AC takes place two years after the 'main' ending of FF7, as opposed to during the post-credits bit with Nanaki.

I think the ending sucks well not with the graphics but they don't tell/show you what happens to the chars what am used to and that made me sad.

And yes first time I saw Cid letting his sigar fall I laughed my bones out.

Besides that Mimic, happy birthday to you!

This post has been edited by Suik_O_Den_Genso on 18th July 2005 09:41

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I look kinda like Vince so ill pick him as my avatar. :)

Wait, wait, wait!

Now that I remeber if your in the Temple of Ancients or gold saucer on the date can't remeber which one again.

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That Caitsith puppet will say the future of Tifa and Cloud that they both become superstars and he will say something about someone dying (Aeris), I think the ending was so short because they already filled us in with this from the start.

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I look kinda like Vince so ill pick him as my avatar. :)

yeah, your right squall of seed. anyway i was just watching the ending and he had all the scars and stuff so sorry about that.

dude, he's old.

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I wonder if they did the ending like that on purpose? Not showing what happens to anyone else but Red/Nanaki. Maybe they wanted a little growing room to expand if the game was the hit they predicted it to be?
^.^ That's my speculation.

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I'm telling you you're wrong.

I think it was just so Nanaki could get a break in life, by that final final scene, they weree simply showing that he wasn't the last of his race. period, end of story. or that's how I see it.

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forget it I haven't even read the contract, I'm not signing.

it is a anti climactic ending showing red and his children running around looking at midgar the new farm

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I liked the ending.

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I especially liked how they showed Midgar in ruins, with vegetation growing on it. Poetic justice that it should be taken over by the very earth the reactors were destroying. I did wonder where Red XIII found a mate, though.

in the crazy world of final fantasy, red 13, or Nanaki (his rightful name) there must have at least been one female, of whatever his species is. Id hate the thought of Nanaki mating with a human... thats as far as i go, with the detail!hah hah

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Couldn't that part with Aeris and midgar in veggies be the symbol of the end of the old, and then seeing nanaki with his children be the beginning of the new [possibly story?] because then it would lead the player into the next story coming off this [were they planning the sequel back then?]

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There are things that must happen, because otherwise, it would defeat the purpose of its name, for it must happen.

Maybe he didn't mate at all, maybe he gained so much exp that he divided like materia...

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forget it I haven't even read the contract, I'm not signing.

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Couldn't that part with Aeris and midgar in veggies be the symbol of the end of the old, and then seeing nanaki with his children be the beginning of the new [possibly story?] because then it would lead the player into the next story coming off this [were they planning the sequel back then?]

The new stories occur -- at the latest -- three years after VII ended. That shot with Nanaki and his children was 500 years after VII ended.

And, no, they weren't planning any sequels at the time.

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Maybe he didn't mate at all, maybe he gained so much exp that he divided like materia...

lmao

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Diablo II is second only to ff7.

Im not sure, the sephiroph its good, and when the crew, on the higwind, by the power of holy is pretty cool too and full of action. And its kool watching the gravity of the meteor pulling up the building of Midgar. But when lifestream and holy block the meteor, it starts to be a bit like a childrens movie, with all the families in kalm opening there windowns to see a lovely mixture of lifestream and holy. But what i dont get is how you can see midgar from cosmo canyon bacause on the map, its half way acroos the world. Thats like seeing the sydney opera house being destroyed and people from london seeing it.just by looking from the top of big ben! Anyway, you see Aeris is she alive again, or is it jsut her spirit. Then after the credits, its a random ovie of red running with childeren, good for him, he lived for 500 years and got a wife

Movies goood, not excellent

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Erm... yes.

I realized my old sig was kinda lame.

No he divided!! I mean the EXP by the end of the game alone... and 500 years of more battling and such, I'd probably divide from that too.

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forget it I haven't even read the contract, I'm not signing.

This isn't the first time some character had to

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sacrifice him/herself

to cast a spell. I could imagine it was the nasty old Tellah (and he died doing it) who cast meteor, not Sepiroth.

The game got weirder and weirder and to this day, I start to see that its just a disorganized plot than a complex one. The ending was nice, that is if I could clear up the mystery/speculation behind some facts.

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Well, I really liked the ending at the time. I haven't played it recently, so it still stays in my mind as fantastic. I prefer it to be kept that way. I like the open ending, open to interpretation and imagination. I would like to know what happened also, but even if there wasn't a movie coming out about it I still would like ff7's ending.