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Well i Was Wondering about whats the easiest way to defeat gafgarion at Lionel Castle?

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Well, I would say the Knights are one of the main priorities....However, if you have a character with Steal Weapon or Weapon Break, have them go after Gafgarion. His little sword trick can quite annoying at times. If you manage to take out his sword, go after the Knights, as Gaf can't do any damage that would put your party in jeopardy. When the Knights are toast, send a character or two, particularly one with a ranged attack such as magic or arrows, and pick off the Time Mages while the rest of the party deals with the oh-so-irritating Archers. Hit Gaf a few times, too, if you don't have a better attack.

Oh, and don't attack the Knights from the side or front if you can get in a back shot.

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No at lionel. theres no time mages at lionel

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Most of the time I have a priest with holy and fry him thats usually what i do with most of the battles that say "Kill Whoever" its quick and sweet(depending on how short your holy charge is)

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Quote (Munk_The_Bard @ 16th June 2005 16:53)

No at lionel. theres no time mages at lionel

Oh, psh, I'm thinking at Golgorand. Sorry.
My tactic has always been to have Ramza as a Monk with Chakra. I use he Chakra when Gaf uses Night Sword. He basically can't hurt me if I keep Chakra-ing. I get down to the gate switch, pop it open, and hopefully let some of my outside warriors come in. As for keeping them alive:
The Summoners are the main priority. They have Moogle, Shiva, Ifrit, and Ramuh, if I'm not mistaken. One hit from a Knight or a damage-dealing warrior should do the trick (the Summoner's don't have much HP at all). From there, it's whoever is causing you the most trouble - Archers or Knights. Do your best to keep some of the players alove, seeing as how you'll need them for Gafgarion.

That's only my strategy. You may need to adjust according to what classes your party currently has. I always give Ramza the Monk job because it's my favorite of them all. If anything, though, you need patience. You're rarely gonna win this battle on the first try, so just stick with it. It took me a few tries to win, too. Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by MathNo.2 on 16th June 2005 22:47

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thanx thatll help me

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My strategy, which you may or may not be able to implement at this point, is to steal Gafgarion's Blood Sword at Golgorand and use it against him at Lionel (usually with Concentrate). They just trade blows infinitely until my party outside the gates is done, then I open the gate and gang up on him.

Of course, WhiteWizard's idea works too, if Ramza is your Priest or if you wanna open the gate early.

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The easiest way to defeat Gafgarion is to not fight him in the one-on-one battle. Teleport allows Ramza to fight in the fray outside of the castle gates. Kill all the enemies, teleport back inside to the gate switch, and bum rush himm. He'll be helpless, since his power in this skirmish is mostly based on his ability to heal and deal damage concurrently while Ramza cannot (unless you got the Blood Sword; then it's a slow-burnin' battle).

In the meantime, all you have to fear from him is using Night Sword on you from behind the castle gate.

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With simple strategy you can deafeat him very easely. Just be sure that Ramza has high Magic power and High Move. That means Squire with Germinas Shoes, Move +1/2/3, Magic Attack UP would be a good setup. When it's your turn, cast and run away, he won't be able to reach you and your spell will be sucessful. If he's not Critical after the first casting, use a fast & weak spell to be sure he won't attack you his next turn. Wizard Class can also do the job but you got less HP, if the lack of MP is a problem here go on take Wizard because it's the most powerful Magic-Type class.

Then you will be able to cast from the top of Lionel's gate without fearing anything

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I've just done this, in the Nth time i've played through the game, i had Ramza as a monk, with the two swords ability set, and HP Restore. Ramza will punch his lights out pretty well with two hits as a monk, and if he gets you critical, then you will regain all your energy. Not fool proof, but if you are not critical yet one hit from dying, simply use chakra. I managed to waste him pretty early and get his crystal, before rushing off to help the rest of my party take out the last archer.

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The easiest way i found of killing him on this battle is to yell every chance you get, and chakra when you need to. Within a few turns you'll be running circles around him and can accumulate to your hearts desire then.

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I always had a black chocobo ferry one of my mages to the top of the gate to help wail on his ass. Besides, with the high ground on that level you become pretty untouchable.

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I've never had trouble fighting gafgarion

i had Ramza as a mastered monk
secondary skill white magic (mastered)
auto potion
teleport
short charge

i just used a combination of earth slash and holy
and teleported around the area

and had a full supply of potions etc before the battle

gafgarion didn't stand a chance

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I generally have Ramza as a monk with two swords. I just chakra until I can get behind Gaffy, and then he's dead. The rest of the battle should be no trouble (I recommend eliminating the summoners first)

Probably, he doesn't have skills like teleport, and that kind of advanced stuff...for that special battle, you can equip the Rubber shoes, which nullifies the Thunder elemental damage, you sure have noticed the archers have the Lightning Bow, and the Knights have Coral Sword, both of them are Lightning elemental, so they won't even attack you. ( believe me, it's true ), well for Gafgy you have to have at least your Ramza as a Knight, and then use Weapon Break, which have around 30-40 % of success, well that should be your first move...if you succeed, he can't use his Night Sword, but he got Martials arts, so he can deal good damage barehanded, or you can paralize him, with Ramza as an Oracle ( lv 2 white mage prerequisite)...and open the gate ( by standing at the switch, left of the door ). Also if you don't have teleport, or don't opened the gate...you can get Ramza near the edge of the Castle wall, and have a ally use Potion on him, if Ramza is in a grid next to other character, if the other character give him a potion, it is not thrown..regardless of any height.
Also you can be near the edge of the castle , so a Black Mage can target him with an Ice spell ( I found him more vulnerable to Ice...), you got plenty of ways, fighting foes is not the only way to survive the horror .

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Here's my strategy:

Ramza is always a Pisces (same b-day as my own), thus 30 is the maximum physical damage that either Ramza or Gafgarion can inflict on one another and I give Ramza Auto-Potion, so they endlessly trade blows until Ramza destroys or steals his weapon (I usually use Battle Skill), or just stalling until my party of four eliminates the Lionel troops. When I play, they never hurt one another if Ramza manages take his sword away from a steal or a break, then Gaff is easy pickins and it's just waiting for the party to finish their half of the battle.

I utilize different strategies for this portion of the battle, but my basic outline for attack is negate/kill the summoner first, then prioritze your tactics on the two archers and three Knights. For me, the archers usually are more devastating than the Knights, but I constantly heal, then attack. My party assists Ramza ONLY after the Lionel troops are defeated, first.

I ALWAYS have the two battles going at once. If it were made a movie, it'd be a Star Wars-esque scenario with a one-on-one sword fight in-between the battle of the two armies. It works for me all the time.

This post has been edited by FabulousFreebird on 22nd June 2005 14:55

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You know, I had difficulty the first time, in that it took 3 attacks to kill his ass. Nowadays, I just punch him once for about twice what he can heal, then I punch him again and he dies, and as such, it usually turns into Ramza helping my allies outside before they finish up.

BUT I just got a fun idea for that battle. Two Archers, Two Black Chocobo's, and use the chocobo's to get the archers on top, and use the them to shoot what's his name to death.

Reason Gafy dear is so easy for me is probably because I have such fun abilities equipped like Auto potion (And only Hi-Potions, maybe X, not sure which.), Move +2, Equip Armor (You ever try killing a Monk with a high level helmet? My God! So many Hit points!)And whatever for secondary, though Guts is a VERY good option. I dunno, I never let him just hit me.


This post has been edited by DragonWarrior on 21st June 2005 18:28

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My tactics are pretty much the same as Moglv99's. I tend to make Ramza a Monk, with a secondary ability of Punch Art, so he can keep Chakraing himself to his heart's delight, then I Weapon Break Gafgarion. I would just open the gate at this point and help out my four support troops, but I'm sadistic and love to torture Gafgarion. If you have one, I also suggest bringing along a Bard for constant HP healing, and let one of your own Summoners tag along. If you kept Ramza in the castle with Gafgarion, you can kill him, open the gate, and finish off the others, or you can just get into the fray on the other side and let Gafgarion meander around until you kill off the Lionel troops, then you can mobilize your troops against him and finish him off.

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Warning: This advice is useless if Ramza isn't a mage.
Target gafgarion with flare (or holy), and teleport to the other side. have as many people chackraing near ramza as you can, (with all the constant healing, you won't die), until you get your mp back. Then, start killoing everyone, starting withthe summoner.

Funny thing, I didn't even know there was a switch

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Funny thing, I didn't even know there was a switch

That's the big thing that got me on my first playthrough. It took me 2-3 times at this battle to figure out where the switch is.

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My suggestion is if you want to make the battle easyer is to make ramza a time mage and cast stop on him. This works well cause it buys you enough time to get down to him and nail him hard. For a secondary move set i'd choose maybe either monk or knight skills, with ignore hight on. You will pretty much own the battle then.

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Quote (Fox @ 9th July 2005 13:32)

Funny thing, I didn't even know there was a switch

That's the big thing that got me on my first playthrough. It took me 2-3 times at this battle to figure out where the switch is.

There's a knight that uses the switch in the cutscene upon first entering Lionel.

Of course, my first playthrough, I think everyone had Teleport, so it was a moot point.

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