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Ragnarok esper and items..

Posted: 18th May 2005 21:59

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Hi, I was trying to get a "Cursed Ring", and I went to the Veldt to find a SrBehemoth...when I found one (a Srbehemoth..),I casted "Vanish" on him,and then summoned Espers through Magicite, (Ragnarok never show up). Funny thing.. every Espers that ramdomly was summoned, didn't make SrBehemoth to reappear (like Shoat, Ramuh, Crusader..) for Shoat say "miss" , and Ramuh, Crusader, etc. damaged Srbehemoth...but he remained in clear status..very weird indeed..but that's not my problem. Then I proceeded to summon Ragnarok through Setzer and Gogo "Slot" command, and when finally it said "Metamorph" , Ragnarok comes and said: "Better off Cursed Ring", I was happy, but then it said "miss" , I couldn't believe it..because he was in "Clear" status, and after the "miss" he reappeared (unlike magicite)... questions: Why all this happen? Is something that they put on the psx version only? It can't say "miss" if he was in clear status...I test this on some enemies..also I tried to summon Ragnarok, when he was not in "Clear" status, and did not work , either...
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I'm trying to get the maximum items possible, I got 251 so far, with the cursed ring ,(damn that Srbehemoth...) Ragnarok sword and Illumina would be 254, but 2 slot remain empty, one must be the Paladin shield, (but I would lose the cursed shield forever..and have 254 again) so what are the two extra slots for?? . Another funny thing I found: In battle, the last 4 slots of items disappear...I mean the 253,254,255 and 256 slots...I put some swords and items previously in the mentioned slots, and they wasn't in my item bag (in a battle). Why this happen? Well that are my question, remember that I'm playing FF Anthologies (PSX)

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Posted: 19th May 2005 02:04

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The two extra slots are probably just there to make sure there's always at least a couple of empty slots, just like there are extra esper slots and extra character slots. I'm not sure why there would need to be empty item slots at all times, but it could just be a developemental safety measure. As far as the items in battle, it looks like you've found an unintentional discrepancy between the menu inventory and the battle inventory. Having all or almost all items is an unusual thing, which may be why Square didn't notice the discrepancy.

I'm not sure about the Metamorph. Maybe it doesn't work on enemies with clear status. Does it normally say "Better off <item>" before missing?

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Posted: 19th May 2005 15:22

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I think Metamorph has more chance of hitting when the enemy has very low HP, the clear status seems to be totally and utterly ignored by espers I've found (to the point it doesn't even re-visible him).

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Posted: 19th May 2005 20:09
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I thought that metamorph missed if they had more than 10% of their total health.

What do you want the cursed ring for, anyway? happy.gif

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Posted: 19th May 2005 22:55

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Espers ignore the Clear status, much like Potions; they don't miss, but they don't remove the Clear status either.

Ragnarok's Metamorph is unblockable, always. Only, they only have a specific chance of working; this chance is different from M. Block % and is the same for every monster of the same type. Take a look at http://masterzed.cavesofnarshe.com/GameDocs/monster.txt for more info.

It has nothing to do with the current amount of HP.

There should be a total of 255 items, where you can never have Cursed Shld and Paladin Sld at the same time. I'm not sure what you're missing; I'm not that good at guessing wink.gif

About the dissappearing items; are you ABSOLUTELY sure that in-battle items are different from your list of out-battle options?

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Posted: 20th May 2005 22:43

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So Metamorph always works? That's good to hear, I tried Metamorph with a few vanished enemies such as Nohrabbits , and I though it always worked if the enemy was in clear status...but it oftenly miss too, I was reading this site's Relic list and the Veterans also give you "Cursed Ring", well Metamorph also missed even when Veteran was in Clear status. So it's a matter of luck only...too bad to hear..I tried like 20 metamorphs on SrBehemoth and failed (Thanks to Gogo, because I mimic constanly Ragnarok esper when he comes through Setzer's slot ability.. thumbup.gif ), and the Veterans are very annoying, because they send too many attacks...and when I finally got the Bar-Bar-Bar, if Ragnarok show up usually turns them into Thornlets and Relic Rings ( too bad I lost my Force Shield in the Colosseum...and for a damn Thornlet..now I have plenty of them... mad.gif ) I'll keep trying...
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There should be a total of 255 items, where you can never have Cursed Shld and Paladin Sld at the same time. I'm not sure what you're missing; I'm not that good at guessing

About the dissappearing items; are you ABSOLUTELY sure that in-battle items are different from your list of out-battle options?
So 255 is the Max? I can have 254 items max, if I steal Ragnarok from Girl...I'll check the Items list (maybe its "Magicite" I used it all.. happy.gif , and about the dissapearing items, in the in-battle item bag, I don't know how to say it very well in English...but here I go:
In the "out-battle items list" I organized my inventory, and put Atma Weapon in the slot 256, and some others items on the other previous slots, such as a Cursed shield in the slot 255, Ogre Nix in the slot 254 and Phoenix Down in the slot 253..I was trying to duplicate somehow those Items ( don't ask why.. blink.gif ), well after that I run into a battle, with Celes unequipped..( For equip her in battle; the Cursed shield in one hand, and the Atma weapon in the other hand)...you can guess, the last slot of In-Battle items was empty...so I organizated some of the items in battle ( pressing X button one time and then moving the cursor to the last slot available, and pressing X again..if I don't make myself clear..). After the Battle, I checked my Out-Battle items list, and that item was in the slot 252...so the most reasonable to think is that the In-Battle Items max number is 252...don't you think? Also I bet my Cursed Shield (But in the FF anthologies Bonus figures as an Hemashield..hope is not an different item..) in the colosseum for getting a Cursed Ring, and it's not worth for using in battle, except if it's paired with Relic Ring I suppose...( when the countdown reach 0, it will heal you completely, instead of killing you..) I'm sure that the Hemashield and Cursed shield are the same thing, but if it's not, please tell me.
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I got the cursed ring!!, it is possible!


This post has been edited by Moglv99 on 4th June 2005 01:00

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