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At the time of first playing the game and fighting the two, I found Ruby to be infinitely harder to defeat, mainly due to sending just Cloud in with the Knights of the Round-->W-Summon with Mime strategy. However, after becoming well-versed with certain tricks, I don't see either as all that difficult now.

Ruby: He can be stopped by Hades. Use that on him, pound him with whatever you want (Limit Breaks, Knights of the Round, etc.). Repeat when needed.

Emerald: Have your characters' potential HP be 9,999 and send them into the battle with only two Materia equipped on each. Let the HP of two of them be a bit below 9,999 at the start of the battle, while one of them is at 9,999. Keep the HP of that third one at 9,999 until Emerald uses Aire Tam Storm. That character's HP will drop to 7,777 and they will go into Lucky Seven Mode. Then have another character's HP go up to 9,999 and wait for Aire Tam Storm to come again.

Lucky Seven is the bane of Emerald's existance, as Hades is Ruby's.

This post has been edited by Squall of SeeD on 24th February 2005 19:55

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i found ruby weapon was harder then emerald lol imagine that ??? well its just because i had max gear and stuff all limits and i had mimic plus no kotr when i fought him but i toook him down easily with mime but ya everyone has their preferences it took me max 15 mins 2 beat emerald

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Oh, and Squall, nice Lucky Seven trick. I just tried it (though I prefer my method, since I'm lazy). It worked pretty well.

This post has been edited by Shinjutsei on 25th February 2005 04:09

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I like beating thm down the hard way, just as a test of skill. Although that usually involves Phoenix + Final Attack...

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I don't think it's possible to beat Emerald or Ruby the "old fashioned way" without Final Attack+Phoenix.

Try it though. It could be one o' dem challenges. (Though I doubt that it could compare to beating FFIX's Ozma at level 1.)

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oh yeah Aire Tam Storm isn't undodgeable, there's like a 1 in a 1000 chance you can dodge it, lol. I saw Vincent do it.. once!

Whenever I tried using Omnislash on Ruby it would hardly do any damage... I shall try using Hades on Ruby though next time I play the game through as that sounds quite affective.

What is the point of that materia MP<>HP or whatever where your hp swaps with your mp? There must be a reason for it surely...

After reading this thread I think Ruby sounds the hardest, because with Emerald you have the 7777 trick at your disposal... which I've never even seen I must admit.

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Erm...I say Ruby...ya know why?

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I do all of that reviving crap, and after a gruesome 30 minutes, I die.

Poor me...

I restarted and beat Ruby Weapon at Level 65(averaged, my highest level was 68) and Emerald at Level 72(Again, average, Cloud was the highest at 74), which is a far cry from this "MASTER ALL YOUR MATERIA" bullshit. If you read you`ll find that Aire Tam Storm only attacks 1111 hp per Materia equipped for EACH person. I only used one mime, one w-item materia(associated with the w-item glitch, I had 99 megalixirs), and one double cut, each person on Fury. An enemy skill materia is also helpful to halve the damage, using Big Guard. If you can't figure out how to use that to your advantage, I'm sorry. Truly, I am, pity be to you if you're that stupid. For Ruby, take only Cloud into the battle. Have him equipped with Knights of the Round + HP Absorb and Hades. W-summon these two, Hades FIRST, because that paralyzes Ruby. Keep doing this with at least one mastered HP Plus, and you can't lose. Doesn't hurt to have a Ribbon just in case one of his fruity little tentacles decide to turn you into a frog. What sucks is that your teammates can't put the exp. and ap to use, but oh well sucks for them. If you're really ahead go and resurrect them before the fights over. Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by TaintedWeapon on 26th February 2005 19:49

I'd have to go with Ruby..

Emerald was *#%ing easy if you have 99 Megalixirs using the W-Item trick.. I just fury my 3 chars... When Cloud's limit bar is full, I make him use OmniSlash and it deals 6000-7000 damage with Ultima Weapon each strike. I don't use KOTR because I beat Emerald to get the KOTR spell..

When I get the KOTR, I make Cloud alive and I summon Bahamut Zero+Quadra Summon and MasterSummon+(I forgot the name of this one materia but it was to increase combined magic/summon's powers).

Ruby is hard-ass and you must take that weapon seriously. Sometimes it deals torturing 9000 damage.. I double Elixirs to 99 and mimic it everytime I get hurt. When my limit goes up , if I don't get hurt, I use Omnislash on his fingers.

When the fingers die, Bahamut ZERO time!! Screw KOTR I fall asleep...Ruby's prize was also crappy. But I'm not spoiling the award from the man at Kalm for killing Ruby..

Ruby, only beat him once. Never knew you could stop him... that would've been some great knowledge to have...

Emerald is quite easy. ATS... Final Attack + Phoenix and just load the materia on! Like it's been said, his attacks max the limit so fast... or you could just use KOTR. However, first time I killed Emerald I didn't know how to get the Underwater Materia so I didn't use KOTR because it took too long. Used Quadra Magic + Ultima with mime and limits. Nothing wrong with using a few megalixirs and phoenix downs. Heh, and a Cloud with 255 all around.

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Emerald Weapon is, Ruby weapon can be defeated quite easily if you have Knights of Round, Hades and Omni Slash, but Emerald? God Damn did I have a hard time defeating him. But after doing research I found out small little things that can help me, even then I died like 40 times before I could finally defeat him! So in conclusion, in my opinion, Emerald Weapon is the weapon you'll most likely die more and Ruby, while with the right equipment, can take a LONG time to defeat and if you're not careful he can screw you up.

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Well, they are both incredibly hard to those who do not know the tricks; and incredibly easy if you do.

Everyone knows the stop/KOTR on Ruby. I myself sent Cloud in alone, used W-summon (Hades and KOTR), and mimed it until he wa low on HP (I was recording the damage, a bit of a pain, but necessary for my next step), then revived my two comrades when Ruby was 1 hit away from oblivion. Voila! 3 heros each gained the masive amounts of EXP and AP; not to mention a gold chocobo with crappy racing stats (for a gold chocobo).

Emerald... I used 7777. There is a way to manufacture a 7777, but its fairly complicated. I don't remember it exactly, but I have it written somehwere in one of my many notebooks, and will report back if I find it. But roughly, it involves starting at an HP ith a max of over 8000, using the cat's bell to get to a certain number (somewhere around 8000, I think), then multiple uses of Demi, then 7 hi-potions and 2 regular potions. Your character will then have 7777 HP to battle with (Emerald will require a KOTR or two after the 64 blows). You cannot do this to more than one character unless you do them all at once (that is, saving the potions and hi potions until everyone is at the proper HP).

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I seem to recall that Ruby took a morbid amount of time to beat, but the first time I tried I took it out. Emmy, on the other hand, whupped me repeatedly in my ff7 infancy, and I still remember when I beat it simultaneously with the clock hitting 0, and nearly crying when the game over screen came up.

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It takes longer to kill Ruby than Emerald.

I have always had amazing luck with Emerald. Only once has he ever used Aire Tam Storm on me, and that was a time before I knew what the heck I was doing, and would have died anywho. The other times, just miming KOtR again and again, without healing, I've not had much trouble. Ruby, on the other hand...I always have to have Final Attack+Phoenix, and it always comes in handy once during the battle. He always seems to take a bit longer to kill, as well...so yeah. Definitely have to go with Ruby.

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Ruby. Emerald can be creamed easily. Ruby has insane body defence (before he digs his claws in the ground), you're virtually fighting a solo battle, and even if you do Hades/KOR that's going to take like an hour out of your life watching some boring summon animation. (Unless you do 4x Cut/Counter/Mime/etc.)

Thankfully there's so many videos on how to beat him, that I don't have that much trouble now. =3

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I personally found ruby to be most difficult compared to emerald. For example, although emerald has a timer it can easily be nullified by equipping proper materia. You can even defeat him without it. Also, he doesn't counter with ultima after knights of the round. With ruby, this disrupts my kotr chain. Having to kill your characters before fighting ruby is a nuisance. Also, I have experienced ruby using whirlsand midway through the fight. Also, physical attacks work just as well with emerald much like with any other enemy, so omnislash is effective. Anyway, I think emerald is much easier, I also prefer fighting him as well.

Also, for some reason, I could never successfully stop ruby.

I found them both really easy first of all i beat em with kotr which was boringly easy so i decided to try to beat themas fast as i could and without kotr i decided to use lucky 7's with double quadra comet therefore 32 hits each time + the 64 hits at start.managed to kill ruby within 5 minutes and emerald within 4.

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it was harder to beat ruby. i had to fight for life in emerald and ended up getting 7777 by accident. but for ruby, he would not go down!

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Neither of them are particularly hard. I beat both of them using one character, without KOR or stop. Emerald is easy because he isn't immune to demi, and with enemy skill, ruby weapon can't kill you unless you mess up pretty badly.