Posted: 27th November 2006 03:23
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Well, four days prior to the official release, the ROM's on the net and the fan's are on the ROM. What comes next is what's going on out there; the new content of FF VI Advance!
- A new choice With Locke as your party leader, you can take the Phoenix Magicite to Leo's grave and actually revive the dead general. The Phoenix Magicite will shatter in the process, and Leo can't (or won't) equip any Magicite, but Square has finally given in to the cries of the fanboys ![]() - Another new character Gestahl! His class description (a feature already present in the Japanese SNES release) is 'ghost'. He CAN use Magic, and his special skill is supposed to be the dummied Summon command which allows you to, dunno, summon your Esper more often than once? - New weapons Save the Queen (sword), Zanmatou (katana), Scorpion Tail (flail), Godhand (claw), Longinus (spear), Last Resort (gambler weapon), Zorlin Shape (knife), Apocalypse (sword) - New Magicite Leviathan, which can be found during a boat ride; Gilgamesh, which attack you at the Colloseum, Diablos and Jumbo Cactuar. - Pink Flans...this can only mean trouble. - Bugs fixed! Vanish/Doom and the Evade bug have both been fixed. - Quicksave and Bestiary feature -------------------- |
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Posted: 27th November 2006 03:29
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I don't know whether xD or >_> applies more.
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Posted: 27th November 2006 03:31
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Leo, This'll be interesting. I wonder if shock will still be his skill.
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Posted: 27th November 2006 04:01
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This sounds incredibly fake jftr.
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Posted: 27th November 2006 04:13
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Well finally all of the conspiracy theories of General Leo/Ghestal can finally become real. After 10 years of battling to find the secret revival of Leo, you can now realize all of the time and thinking you have wasted !! xD
I would say they need to also CONCLUDE the whole story behind SHADOW and RELM...maybe the entire scenes of shadows dreams too? And some sorta secret scenario with Gogo and Setzer ![]() -------------------- "FFII/FFIV is simply the best role playing game ever created." - 1994-2006 |
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Posted: 27th November 2006 06:12
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wow, this seems quite nice. if all these additions are true, im looking VERY forward to this game!
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Posted: 27th November 2006 06:47
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I assume Gogo continues to be a playable character?
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Posted: 27th November 2006 07:18
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I'm a bit disappointed in the whole reviving General Leo aspect and I don't think I 'll be bringing him back to life in my playthroughs. Yes, he was an interesting character, but after years and years and years of people freaking out, finding ways to bring him back to life, isn't it about time we gave up and let him stay dead? Ghestal doesn't excite me very much either, but I guess in the end they had to add SOMETHING to an already perfect game. I just don't know if this detracts from the characters deaths as so few people ever really stay dead. I won't, however, say no to more Shadow material and background.
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Posted: 27th November 2006 09:05
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I doubt this stuff is true...
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Posted: 27th November 2006 12:00
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If that is real info, I’m glad that FFVI has some FFVIII summons, especially the better ones.
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Posted: 27th November 2006 12:44
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That's really nice guys, Dji tells you about the added content and you call him a liar. GMH pretty much said what I was thinking though, at long last we know, Gogo ISN'T Gestahl!
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Posted: 27th November 2006 13:54
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I think it’s pretty understandable that people might doubt news that Gestahl of all characters is going to become playable, especially when there is no news link or screenshots to back it up.
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Posted: 27th November 2006 14:06
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Drat, and here I was hoping that you could revive Aeris using a new fancy unlockable WiFi feature that talked to the PS3 remake of FF7....
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Posted: 27th November 2006 14:49
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Well, I said I would come back for this, and in spite of real life I'm doing just that. The first thing I've decided to do is test out as many bugs in the bugs guide that's on the web right now as I can/wish (despite how outdated it is, it'd give me a nice look into how many fixes there may be and whether I should bother testing every last one), along with the more popular unlisted ones like Wind God Gau, FC/Airship, and acquiring Kutan.
And as an aside... I'm not believing the V/D and Evade fixes until I see them for myself. To mark them as Version Specific though... damn. Maybe they did learn something from Anthology. I likely still have Muddle/Smoke Bomb and Joker Doom (I hope I'm not jinxing myself on the latter) though. ![]() Leo resurrection sucks hard. Novalia Spirit opened the door, I in turn made one of the hottest rumors in FF history come partially true because of his help, and then a year later Square spits on that effort. One of my goals for FF6A was going to be the acquistion of Leo just for kicks, but where's the appeal in doing that now unless a new bug has surfaced that would let me keep him? But I'm keeping myself from my new unreadable game. Balthier and crew will just have to wait, it's time to rip through the world of Final Fantasy 6 for the last time... if only because of the Leo thing. I want my damn pride back. Oh, and yes, I will look for the Sketch bug at some point. I slacked on learning z80 assembly unfortunately, so that may be a bit. EDIT: I don't want to hit the FF6A board on G'FAQs since the mods might go crazy despite the game's legitimate release in Hong Kong, so here's hoping someone else is on the ball here: what do the two new game options mean at startup? What's the difference? I'm quite curious. I picked the second one just out of habit (had to see what it did) and so far I see no difference... then again, I keep interrupting the game to type and I have yet to see Whelk, so whatever. EDIT 2: Ooh, they've been playing with the event code! The Vomammoth/Guard battle had the camera pan up, something I don't remember ever seeing. But maybe I'm just paying too much attention or something. (I may edit this post instead of my changes text file for oddball observations; this could get quite large) EDIT 3: Y'know, I think I'll just make a list and sort it later.
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Posted: 27th November 2006 15:12
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Quote (Zero_Hawk @ 27th November 2006 07:44) That's really nice guys, Dji tells you about the added content and you call him a liar. GMH pretty much said what I was thinking though, at long last we know, Gogo ISN'T Gestahl! Dji is above reproach when it comes to honesty, I believe, but you can't really fault fans for being skeptical of the information he gave. That's some pretty wild stuff for folks to swallow. -------------------- Join the Army, see the world, meet interesting people - and kill them. ~Pacifist Badge, 1978 |
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Posted: 27th November 2006 15:32
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Quote (ThroneofDravaris @ 27th November 2006 06:54) I think it’s pretty understandable that people might doubt news that Gestahl of all characters is going to become playable, especially when there is no news link or screenshots to back it up. Well, you could also be more clear in your first post as to what you find is hard to believe, rather than just say "That all seems really fake JUST FOR THE RECORD" Edit Here, I found these in about three minutes of bothering to look. Party consisting of Leo, Locke, Gestahl, and Strago http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3770/1164552210496ok3.jpg Leo and Gestahl in battle http://puka-world.com/php/upload/ren/img-b...64560248323.png Happy now? For fun, here's Gilgamesh, Cactrot, Omega Weapon, and Kaiser(Czar) Dragon http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7308/up30363cj1.jpg Glancing at that picture makes it seem as though you fight Gilgamesh in the Colliseum. Fun. This post has been edited by Zero_Hawk on 27th November 2006 16:34 -------------------- This one time I punched a bear in the forehead TO DEATH! I still have the scars on my chest. I am the manliest man that ever did man. League: Z3roHawk Steam: Zero_Hawk Wii U: Zero_Hawk FF14 - Goblin - Zero Hawk <Fiend> |
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Posted: 27th November 2006 17:12
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Leo? Gesthal? Didn't see that coming. I'm getting the ROM, but I just wanna see how it handles, music, things like that. Did they fix the Sketch bug?
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Posted: 27th November 2006 17:36
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Kutan has apparently returned for FF6A. Pic(s?) coming in a bit when I get to Narshe.
EDIT: Oh, before I forget: Celes' photo appeared in the text box prior to the Tunnel Armor fight. EDIT 2: New Blitz combinations, because I know you're curious as all hell too: Possible spoilers: highlight to view Suplex: R, L, Down, Up Mantra: R, L, R, L, Down, Up Spiraler: R, L, Up, Down, Right, Left EDIT 3: The Phantom Train music plays instead of just the train sounds when Cyan's family departs... it was so cruel and heartless on Square's part the way the music was timed. ![]() But yeah, first new bug! Very odd, though, that it should be a music bug at the Phantom Train; that's where I first started noting version specific bugs in Anthology too. :\ Also, new bugfix: Retort status is NOT retained past death and revival. However, Psycho Cyan still remains. This just means Retort will have to be activated again after revival, making the bug harder to execute but certainly nowhere near impossible. That was scary though; for a moment, I thought we had lost our favorite sword-swinging mental patient.... EDIT 4: Phunbaba's immune to Clear status. Actually immune, not some half-assed Miss-fix like Anthology! My god... does someone at Squeenix actually give a damn now!? EDIT 5: Huh. So the Vanish/Doom fix is real. I guess the Clear immunity thing is so people will have a harder time hitting with spells. It's certainly a masterful red herring, given that SrBehemoth nearly had me convinced the V/D fix was nothing but a rumor (the living form has Clear immunity now as well). EDIT 6: Vanish/Life 2 still exists! I certainly did NOT expect that after V/D's elimination, but... well, it's Square. Why should I be surprised at this? EDIT 7: I said there would be a pic of Kutan, and here it is: http://masterzed.cavesofnarshe.com/Misc/kutanadvance.PNG Well, I think that's about enough for now.... This post has been edited by Master ZED on 27th November 2006 19:42 -------------------- |
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Posted: 27th November 2006 23:35
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Would you guys mind giving me a window where Gestahl and Leo's names actually appear in the name window, instead of the command menu covering it? And another image link that doesn't say something about exceeding bandwidth? I'll have a much better time accepting something as ridiculous as Leo/Gestahl being playable if I could at least see if it isn't some elaborate photoshop.
Sorry to doubt you, but there's been too much craziness the last few weeks here, and I don't need to know that they'll do something utterly stupid as revive Leo. Gestahl is less ridiculous, but Leo? That just ruins his death. Edit: It seems, that these rumors are true. This is rather sacriligeous. But I will presevere. OH GOD. ;__; WTF SQUARE-ENIX. The GBA's Synth is ugly as sin. It seems they didn't even put an effort into making it sound pretty like FFVA's music... Well, even though this is mind-blowing, I'll probably still play it until the cartridge melts anyway. This post has been edited by Zeromus_X on 28th November 2006 00:05 -------------------- |
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Posted: 28th November 2006 00:17
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Quote (Zeromus_X @ 27th November 2006 16:35) Would you guys mind giving me a window where Gestahl and Leo's names actually appear in the name window, instead of the command menu covering it? And another image link that doesn't say something about exceeding bandwidth? I'll have a much better time accepting something as ridiculous as Leo/Gestahl being playable if I could at least see if it isn't some elaborate photoshop. Sorry to doubt you, but there's been too much craziness the last few weeks here, and I don't need to know that they'll do something utterly stupid as revive Leo. Gestahl is less ridiculous, but Leo? That just ruins his death. Edit: It seems, that these rumors are true. This is rather sacriligeous. But I will presevere. OH GOD. ;__; WTF SQUARE-ENIX. The GBA's Synth is ugly as sin. It seems they didn't even put an effort into making it sound pretty like FFVA's music... Well, even though this is mind-blowing, I'll probably still play it until the cartridge melts anyway. Yeah uh, thanks for the faith in the staff here, and stuff. -------------------- This one time I punched a bear in the forehead TO DEATH! I still have the scars on my chest. I am the manliest man that ever did man. League: Z3roHawk Steam: Zero_Hawk Wii U: Zero_Hawk FF14 - Goblin - Zero Hawk <Fiend> |
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Posted: 28th November 2006 00:25
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It has nothing to do with 'faith in the staff'. :P
Quote (ThroneofDravaris) I think it’s pretty understandable that people might doubt news that Gestahl of all characters is going to become playable. This post has been edited by Zeromus_X on 28th November 2006 00:25 -------------------- |
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Posted: 28th November 2006 00:27
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Yeah, okay, but you can't believe it when WE say it, whereas you look at another site that has a story about it, and the same goddamn picture you were whining about, and now you believe?
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Posted: 28th November 2006 00:34
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Easy, partner.
Quote Sorry to doubt you, but there's been too much craziness the last few weeks here, and I don't need to know that they'll do something utterly stupid as revive Leo. Gestahl is less ridiculous, but Leo? That just ruins his death. Even without that, I've already checked out a few other sites which confirm this. CoN happened to be the first site I looked at that even had this information, and considering the craziness that happened recently with chou, combined with the craziness of something as extreme as reviving General Leo or recruiting Gestahl, gave me skepticism. This post has been edited by Zeromus_X on 28th November 2006 00:36 -------------------- |
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Posted: 28th November 2006 00:53
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Wait, am I to understand that to get Leo you have to LOSE Pheonix as an Esper? I'm not sure I'm cool with that.
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Posted: 28th November 2006 01:03
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Maybe one of the bonus Espers has Life 3 :D?
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Posted: 28th November 2006 01:15
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Even so, I like Phoenix. @@
I KNEW they'd add Gilgamesh though. They've been totally obsessed with lately. What's he been in other than V now? VIII, IX, XII, IA, and now VI... and there was at least a character in XI 'called' Gilgamesh. How on Earth d'he avoid being in IVA? =P -------------------- The Arcana are the means by which ALL is revealed. |
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Posted: 28th November 2006 01:32
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I really dont see why they arent doing something with Siegfried. It would be pretty sweet if you could at least have some sort of sub-quest with the whole Siegfried/Ziegfried issue in the game, and maybe alittle more about the two.
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Posted: 28th November 2006 01:36
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Quote (Sabin044 @ 28th November 2006 01:32) I really dont see why they arent doing something with Siegfried. It would be pretty sweet if you could at least have some sort of sub-quest with the whole Siegfried/Ziegfried issue in the game, and maybe alittle more about the two. He would be a secret character, and his ultimate weapon would be Death Penalty ![]() These addidtions are really cool, and i'm dieing (slowly) to know how you'll meet Gesthal. This post has been edited by Dragon King on 28th November 2006 01:37 -------------------- Kel'Thuzad: She is persistent. Reminds me of you, death knight. Arthas:Shut up you damned ghost. -Warcraft III Kel'thuzad comparing Arthas and Sylvanas Windrunner. |
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Posted: 28th November 2006 01:56
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Quote (Dragon_Fire @ 26th November 2006 23:18) I'm a bit disappointed in the whole reviving General Leo aspect...I just don't know if this detracts from the characters deaths as so few people ever really stay dead. I won't, however, say no to more Shadow material and background. At any rate, I'm still really looking forward to this release and I can't wait to get my hands on a copy. I totally agree. I think it cheapens the story to have those two join the party. Like you said, no one stays dead anymore. I'm waiting for FF7 Remix to come out and have Aeris spring back to life. It seems like FF is really taking after Star Wars to the bitter end. They just keep adding more and more crap, including stupid sequels and re-releases with questionable additions. Why is it that ghost-Ghestal reminds me so much of ghost-Hayden Christiansen in the latest episode VI remake? Will it get to the point where there is such a demand for the original product that Squenix will have a "Special Christmas Time Only!!!" re-release? But anyway, being a stupid fanboy I'll prob try this game if I can get my hands on it and a GBA. And is the new Shadow stuff included in the release or is that just wishful thinking? Edit Hm, looks like my post might be pointless. I'm reading across the web that the Leo and Gestahl rumors are, in fact, just rumors. Those pictures might just be photoshopped. Anybody with the game able to confirm this? This post has been edited by MetroidMorphBall on 28th November 2006 02:06 |
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Posted: 28th November 2006 02:38
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Who in God's name, ever in the history of the universe, would have wanted Gestahl on her team? No, seriously. The man looks like a Shih Tzu and is deathly boring to boot. Was it because they had his battle sprite already? Couldn't we have scored Maduin instead, in that case?
I know it's really geeky to be super-depressed that they're completely cheapening Leo's death in this way, but I am a real geek, and I am super-depressed. I hope this doesn't become accepted canoooooooooon ![]() Edit As for the "rumor" rumors, I guess we can't know for sure. But I have the awful feeling that it is indeed legitimate. Edit Edit 2 WHY CAN'T ANYONE EVER SPELL GESTAHL'S NAME RIGHT? It's not that hard! They're supposed to be a video game news site, even! This post has been edited by L. Cully on 28th November 2006 02:44 -------------------- Some ghost of me might greet my son the day he is delivered. Eternal Sleep, Track 1-1: The Blue Planet |
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