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Hi again! Here's my "first" question for the time!

Do you guys know how many ways there is to kill God Kefka under 5 rounds or less?

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I know there's a way to kill him in a single round. It's called genji glove + offering.

Seriously, FF6 is terribly easy, unless you're taking a challenge like an SCC or no exp game...

Welcome to the board, btw

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 23rd January 2005 22:04

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hehe i know what that is, i'm not THAT unexperienced

but if u kill him in 8 attacks, what lvl was you then?

btw, anyone who reads, send in more suggestions!!

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Let's see... just the final one, right? Not all four fights?

1. GG/Offering. CatScratch, Morph, Atma Weapon, ValiantKnife, Fixed Dice are the skills/weapons you can use for this task in one round, but most any combo can do it in five with few exceptions. Since this is only one enemy we're speaking of, Tempest isn't necessary outside of Wind Slash's evasion of Offering's /2 physical damage penalty, which is risky here. The abilities and weapons I mentioned here have some method of evading the penalty (CatScratch, with Offering, will still do x2 damage instead of x4, Morph negates the penalty (its x2 bonus and Offering's /2 penalty cancel out), and the weapons ignore defense so they have a much easier time of getting around the penalty damage-wise).

2. Joker Doom. Either take careful note of attacks leading to Kefka and rig it up at the final battle, or use 7-7-BAR/Palidor(jump)/Mimic x2 (better notes on this can be found in my bugs guide).

3. Gem Box. Use whatever strikes for 9999 every time and wail on him with it. If you don't use Quick, it'll take four rounds of 19998 damage to do him in. With Quick, two.

4. Wail on him with all four party members doing 9999 damage per strike. A multitude of ways to do this, this encompasses pretty much all other methods I can think of, including the use of Palidor combinations (which can kill anything but WOB Guardian in a single round not counting the round lost while in the air, WOB Guardian must be defeated in a much different manner if, for whatever personal reason, you want to see it beaten).

If it's all four... GG/Offering/Tempest x2/CatScratch, with a second character to finish off Girl (I forget if Rage status is lost between fights, if it is, Gau can do it himself with an Ultima blast or something). With luck, Gau will kill all of the tiers in one round each (or two for the third if he's alone in case of lost Rage status), for a total of four to five rounds, but he'll need alot of levels and Mag.Pwr to do it. That's the only one I can think of outside of, again, four party members doing multiple 9999 strikes per turn, as Joker Doom, even if the normal one worked on the first four battles, is not likely to do it within five. Gau's the only one who can do this pretty much alone, if not Cyan (I'm not sure if 128 Mag.Pwr and LV. 99 is enough, never tried). If LV. 99, 128 Mag.Pwr can get enough Wind Slash damage, Cyan can finish off everything in five rounds alone and outside of bugs (which you'd need for a twin Tempest+Offering Gau), is the only one who possibly can (four rounds of Tempest and a seperate strike to fend off Girl).

This is all just off the top of my head, I could have forgotten something or have been wrong about Cyan's capability, maybe something else.

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Wouldn't Vanish/Doom work too? From what I've heard it sounds like it would. I know Vanish/Doom is extreamly cheap but two spell castings would definatly fit into a five round period. Other then that, I can't think of anything that hasn't been said. Oh well, I'm sure there are more and I'll be looking forward to them.


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Wouldn't Vanish/Doom work too?

Kefka's immune to Clear status, so no. In fact, everything in the final battles are immune to clear, but there are two monsters vulnerable to instant death, one for each of the first two battles.

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Even though Kefka is one of my favorite characters in the game, if not my outright favorite, I have to admit he's a freakin' easy last boss. I just beat the game again, and cruised right through all three tiers and him with my original four characters. Letting you use all twelve is ridiculous. There's no need unless you ran from practically every battle and spent no time levelling up.


Anyway, this last time through I had my three magic using mamas in my party: Celes, Terra, and Relm. Since it was, like, 2 in the morning and I was tired, I just had them use Ultima to end the battle quickly. Relm had X-Magic, so she did it twice. I didn't count the number of rounds, but it might have been less than five.

you can throw imp`s halberd, it a good way too (and very quick), do you believe now?? imps halberds do 9999 damage.

This post has been edited by Moglv99 on 11th February 2005 02:50

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you can throw imp`s halberd, it a good way too (and very quick)

Prove it.

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Touche, Dji, I jumped in too early. But if you did nothing but throw Imp Halberds, would it be possible to do in five turns? I don't know how much HP the end Kefka has and can't look it up right this moment.

This post has been edited by Rangers51 on 24th January 2005 17:45

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Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?

Well, it *is* the strongest weapon you'll ever want to throw, so it outdoes any shuriken you might have.

Unless he went for a variation on the Throw the Atma Weapon myth, in which case he's wrong, but he's not saying anything that would provoke such an interpretation

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Touche, Dji, I jumped in too early. But if you did nothing but throw Imp Halberds, would it be possible to do in five turns? I don't know how much HP the end Kefka has and can't look it up right this moment.

Imp Halberd is the one that always does 9999 damage when thrown right?

Considering that Genji Glove offering can kill Kefka in one round, it depends on what you mean by rounds.

If you mean Party rounds then you can have two throwers (Gogo and Shadow of course) throwing one Imp Halberd every turn. In five rounds you'd have thrown 10 Halberds which would yield more damage total then a singe round of Genji Glove offering. That would probably be enough to kill the guy.

If you mean five turns from a single single character, then you couldn't even get away with throwing more then five Imp Halberds anyway. I don't think that would be quite enough but then again, I don't have Kefka's HP memorized.

If you mean one round of the whole party plus one extra attack then Genji Glove Offering from somebody else would make Kefka bite the dust anyway. It woudn't matter if you threw the Imp Halberd or not in this case realy.

So the answer is yes and no, depending on what you mean by "round".

This post has been edited by Tonepoet on 24th January 2005 19:49

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Role reversal at its finest.

hmmm, good suggestions, you've taken all of mine except one, that only requires 2 characters (if they survive), and 1 of them has to be Cyan. With a little trick, you can make him go punching way longer than 8 times

You guys heard of it?

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-Mog

Psycho Cyan? I don't remeber how to do it and have never done it myself but I have read multiple FAQ's that tell you how to make Cyan go into a homicidal rampage. According to the FAQs, he'll just keep on attacking and attacking, uninterupted untill everything is dead. I think it invovled the Imp spell . . .

This post has been edited by Tonepoet on 24th January 2005 20:13

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Role reversal at its finest.

Psycho Cyan is a pretty good trick, though hardly reasonable considering the fact it's exploiting a bug. Of course, I doubt Square intended to have one-hit kill attacks like GG+Offering+Defence-ignoring weapons, so...

Wind God Gau is an other one that comes to mind, though I dunno if it would be enough to kill Kefka.

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Nah, only with Quick (which effecitvely gives you two turns, so I don't think that's what the original question was about). While the Imp Halbard isn't a guaranteed 9999, it's Battle Power is 253 as opposed to Tack Star's 190. Seeing as most players wind up with well over 20 of them from fighting Tyranosaur, it's fairly infamous as Shadow's ultimate Shuriken.

I've got one to add: NightShade. As soon as Charm hits, start running; you won't take more turns and Kefka'll off himself.

Cyan/Gogo should have to take only two Quadra Slice attacks to kill Kefka at high levels.

This post has been edited by Djibriel on 24th January 2005 21:01

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4 party members. 1 round. Basic equipment and no Offering. Death to Final Kefka!
FYI Final Kefka has 62,000 HP.

Terra L99
Genji Glove, Hero Ring, Illumina, Raganrok (19,998)

Celes L99
Genji Glove, Hero Ring, Atma Weapon, Atma Weapon (19,998)

Edgar L99
Genji Glove, Hero Ring, Excalibur, Aura Lance (19,998)

Strago L99
Gem Box, Economizer, Magus Rod, Paladin Shield
Ultima/Ultima (19.998) or if you want to exploit the Quick spell,
Ultima/Quick/Ultima/Ultima (29,997) (one could technically argue it is not one round anymore)

total = 79,992 dam

This post has been edited by Detah on 25th January 2005 15:18

Umm... doesn't the Quick trick allow you to cast Ultima five times? Or is that a mechanic built-in so the Gem Box isn't broken?

Wow, it's been awhile since I played that one.

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obviesly me to

anywaaaaaay, here's how to do the psycho Cyan:

Make Cyan do the lvl 2 swordskill and before he's got the chance to counter the attack, make anyone to the imp magic on him, then kill him before he attacks
Then cast fenix down, and when its his turn, let hell brake loose!
(Not that hard to achieve, usually completes the procedure at first try)

One catch: This can take TIME!!! If you don't have anything to do on a raining sunday, take a low lvl cyan against kefka, and let him stand there and punch for like 20 minuets, if he's really low lvl.

And if you really wanna take time, take cyan's weapons

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'The hair, watch the hair man!'

-Mog