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Alrighty.

I watched The Last Samurai last night, right after I decided that the allstar archers were a no-go. I got inspired, and decided to do an all samurai team. I think there won't be any problems actually *beating* the game, but I'm curious about what's in store for me.

Basically, has anyone tried this before? If so, I'm looking for ideal setups for the team..... particularly nasty fights that the samurai will have difficulty in... things like that. One problem I see right away is that I can't use their Draw Out ability until the game is well progressed, so I'll have to rely on one skillset per character for the beginning stages of the game.

Oh, a few questions about Draw Out. What affects the damage done with Draw Out attacks? Faith? Pa? Sp? Ma? Weapon power?

Also, got any cool samurai names I can use? I'm thinking of Kenji, Hiro, Kai Fang, Lee Fang, and Danjo right now...

So that's it. Any info would be most appreciated.

BTW- The Last Samurai rocked.

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Here's a cool idea. Samurai's are known for their prowess w/ swords and bows. Give them Equip Bow as a Support Ability (or maybe just a couple of them). And then it will be like you have archers as well(They won't be the best archers cause of Samurai's speed, but it would still be fun).


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I've never tried an all-samurai squad, sounds pretty cool. let us know how it turns out.

Anyway, as far as some good setups go. I like speed save for the slow samurai. Blade grasp is always good.

The samurai's draw out skill is based mostly on MA.

Hope some of that helps.

Since Blade Grasp stops practically all weapon attacks, I don't think there are any levels in which you could be utterly smoked in. You might have to change your setups for Meliadoul and the St. Murond Temple battle(s).

My ideal skill setup would be as follows:

Draw Out
Basic Skill / Punch Art
Blade Grasp / MA Save
Defense UP
Move +3

Of course, some of these skills might take awhile to get, so relying on a strong set [Punch Art, etc.] would be best for the first Chapter. Also, all of the damaging skills in the Draw Out set are just based on the simple equation, X*MA.

Tell us how this all-samurai team turns out, eh?

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Even without Draw Out, Samurai are reasonably powerful. When I did a Samurai SCC, I only had trouble with one fight in the entire game - and that was in Chapter 1, with no weapons. Since you have no such "no abilities outside the class" restrictions, you could theoretically use, say, Punch Art and still be able to actually do something.

Once you get Draw Outs, the game is basically over. Five Samurai can rip apart anything with relative ease.

Just watch out for Charm. Draw Out is one of the precious few things that Blade Grasp won't stop.

Aww, you gave up Archers? So soon? Really,they're not that bad.

*wipes eyes*

Shotgunnova, izzat you? Where you been, man?

So, Draw Out basically just revolves around MA... sweet. I dig the setup you mentioned, but Punch Art really seems limited without Marital Arts as the support ability. Im considering Jump or Item right now, or possibly Battle Skill.

I'm digging the bow idea... it appeals to the archer loving side of me. (you know, the side that likes to be punched, beaten, and abused) How is a Samurai's PA growth compared to the Monk or Knight, though?

Oh, yeah... I dropped Hiro in favor of Shinryu. It just felt right.

Yee ha.



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Shotgunnova, izzat you? Where you been, man?

Excluding last month [e-sabbatical for back problems], I've been here everyday.

Also, if you decided to use The Ancient's advice and put bows on instead of katanas (or even if you didn't), a Charm-ed Samurai is still nearly exempt from being damaged by his/her allies or damaging his/herself

And I only suggested Punch Art as a defensive maneuver. There's no reason to put another powerful skillset on when Draw Out covers all of the bases that Punch Art doesn't. Revive and Earth Slash are still useful, in any case.

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Samurai's don't have as high PA growth as the other fighting classes, but slightly higher MA growth...makes sense as their attacks depend on both. Try to get your brave up, it will matter for your Samurais who use swords. I think battle skill makes most sense for a secondary skillset, just from a logical perspective (the same reason I suggested the bows.) You shouldn't have to tough a time, Samurais are pretty well rounded. Weigraf might give ya some troubles, but when does he not? If you need help with him I have a 100% failproof strategy which works on him and doesn't require spending a long time building up PA.

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Queklain was...... a pain. Nightmare put the hoodoo on me first thing. Death Sentence AND Sleep on four guys right off the bat. My designated "healer" Samurai was the only one left unscathed.

I beat him, but it wasn't what I'd call a good fight. I chalk it up mostly to bad luck, though, because I have never, ever had everyone hit with Nightmare get Sleep put on them, too.

*grumbles*

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I don't recommend Lee Fang or Kai Fang as names for Samurai, they sound too Chinese... Akira, on the other hand, is Japanese...

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Queklain was...... a pain. Nightmare put the hoodoo on me first thing. Death Sentence AND Sleep on four guys right off the bat. My designated "healer" Samurai was the only one left unscathed.

I beat him, but it wasn't what I'd call a good fight. I chalk it up mostly to bad luck, though, because I have never, ever had everyone hit with Nightmare get Sleep put on them, too.

*grumbles*

That's why you buy five Defense Rings in Warjilis.

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i've always wondered about all-samurai teams, actually... But does anyone know at exactly what point of the game Samurai Swords are available? I remember seeing my first one at Warjilis, i think. Can anyone confirm this, as im thinking of starting an all-samurai party as wel, maybe after i try all-knights .

BTW, Mikasa, Nikoro and Ranmaru are good samurai names, i think.

Oh yeah and hamedo, thanks for the help with the all-knight team i asked about, i havent actually started, but this way i can plan ahead of time

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ok, i just realised that listing my name suggestions would be useless, since you've already killed Queklain and therefore probably have no need of new names

Me feels stupid

This post has been edited by MarquisElmdor on 22nd August 2004 01:04

In reference to your skill-set, I always liked Meatbone Slash in favor of Blade Grasp. Maybe set one Samurai with Meatbone Slash? It's such a powerful skill not to use. I assume you know what MS does.

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Well, I've got a few names that I like:

Male: Kenshin (maybe I do the whole anime thing), Sojiro, Kyosuke, Genji, Tsuke

Female: Kagura, Miyu, Tsume, Aya

I have an all team like that.. but 1 calculator.

And im in the beggining of chapter 2.. so. there's no weapons yet..

But i use the knights equip sword trait.. and when there are katana's .. i have the ninja's 2 sword trait ...

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But does anyone know at exactly what point of the game Samurai Swords are available?

Asura Knives first become available in Warjilis [Chapter 2]. After that, they become available in Dorter [Chapter 3] and you can continue to get better ones from there.

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Asura Knives first become available in Warjilis [Chapter 2]. After that, they become available in Dorter [Chapter 3] and you can continue to get better ones from there.

ah, i thought so. thanks.

Velius was a bloodbath, tooth-and-nail deathmatch.

I'm seriously thinking of swapping out Two Hands with Two Swords.

I dig the names you guys have recommended, but it is a bit late now, as MarquisElmdor said. I finally settled on:

Danjo

Shinobi (a ninja name, I know... but I like it)

Hotsuma (Shinobi's actual name, yeah yeah....)

Tatsu (the Shredder's right hand man in the first TMNT movie)

Nobunaga

Y/W with the advice on the all-knight team, ME.

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I've always enjoyed the name Shinobi, I like Danjo as well. Keep us updated on how it goes.

Eh, don't switch Two Hands with Two Swords! You wouldn't be a "true" Samurai then! Just keep working on it. You'll get better. I had trouble with my Samurai when I played with him. He was terrible, quite frankly -- a disgrace to the Samurai job. But then, he slowly started doing more and more damage. He climbed his way up the Damage Ladder and is now one of my most trusted Samurais.

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Life is one big road with lots of signs. So when you riding through the ruts, don't complicate your mind. Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy. Don't bury your thoughts, put your vision to reality . Wake Up and Live! - Bob Marley