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Quote (Fox @ 2nd November 2005 15:44)

Actually, while I was waiting for ceasar to tell me how he beat neo at that level (don't wanna go train if I don't have to), I started a theif game on a different save state. I'm not very far right now, though. I think I'm on the steamship.

At the Steamship!? The monsters there are hecka easy! I hope you don't mind if I help you with that place.. Just trying to be of good use..

For Thief, it's an excellent opportunity to steal Hi-Potions from Poltergeists (Those things that looks like one in the back is connecting his tongue to the back of the one to the front) one by one and stealing Elixir from the hard-to-steal-from Zuu (That big flying bird outside of Karnak).

If you're at the Liquid Flame boss, and you can't beat him, keep always healing your guys up with Hi-Potions and those awesome Elixirs until he runs out of MP. Then ram your attacks on him and when he transforms, that means he'll be using Fire attacks to heal him. Keep healing yourself and every time he attacks you with fire and then that part will run out of MP too. Beat him down and that's it.

Good luck you, because Byblos is gonna beat you down.. Luckily, I passed that coward.

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This post has been edited by NeoEx-Death on 3rd November 2005 01:51

Well, I suppose its not a big deal, but I beat several SCCs. Since Im pretty sure all the SCCs have been completed, but I celebrate in my own pride:

- M. Knight: Easy. But strangely fun. One of the most enjoyable SCCs. I do wish, however, that there was a Cure sword magic spell - I'd love to beat my characters back to full health.

- Black Mage: Another easy one, except for the very low health. Flame rings are entirely unfair. Daggery doom!

- Ninja: high evade is fun. As a small varient to this, I might try a ninja/samurai two-class challenge. Not really a challenge, but that's part of the point.

Im still working on blue mage. Lack of a trainer is really getting to me. ARGH!

Next up is probably chemist or trainer. They're both classes I RARELY use in a normal game. I use trainers to control for blue magic, and I only use chemists when Im mastering the chemist class. It'll be a nice change of pace.

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Oh sure, I don't have to get kicked in the junk to activate it, but I like it anyway. -- Thief commenting on the difference between Throw and Blue Magic.

WildHalcyon, part of what made the Mystic Knight SCC so enjoyable for me was the Drain Sword magic. I love just watching the enemy try, in vain, to deal lsating damage to me. Even if I only did 300 damage, I still had all 4 characters at full health for the entire game.

Well, until the N-Zone, that is. Then I let Flare sword just beat the holy heck out of everything. The notorious Flare Sword- Chicken Knife combo works wonders, even as a Frog (7000 damage as a frog isn't too shabby).

I want to do another SCC now. I'm at X-Death with Monk but he is way strong for me, so I think I'll start another for now.

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Is PJ

Drain Sword is nice, but there are a few places where its not useful, like the undersea canyon. Fire worked well there, but I missed healing.

I tried monk for a bit. I liked the incredibly gross amount of HP that my characters got. The lack of elemental and magic damage was hurting a little. I gave up around the time I realized the fork tower was going to be more than a little impossible.

On the other hand, trainer should be pretty unique - the ability to cause damage is dependent entirely upon the enemies faced.

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Oh sure, I don't have to get kicked in the junk to activate it, but I like it anyway. -- Thief commenting on the difference between Throw and Blue Magic.

I was thinking of doing Trainer sometime soon, too. I want to do a physical job first, though. Maybe Knight or Ninja or something. I don't know.

If you do Trainer, you might want to check out Djibriel's site. There is a page that I can only assume would be amazing to look at if you're doing the Trainer SCC. It has what spell each monster casts when released. Pretty cool:

The Almighty Catch/Release FAQ

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Is PJ

I did Knight as my first SSC, and it wasn't a walk in the Park. I first just avoided Fork tower, and went straight for the N-zone. Bad idea. I struggled my way through it, and finally went back to Fork tower. Took me FOREVER to beat magic Fork tower, but I got lucky and had Mage Knifes proc for me just right.


Second time through, I decided to do Monks. This time I made sure to get a Wall ring in Barrier tower. That is how I got past Fork tower with Monk, but now I'm stuck at Neo-X-death.

i put it aside for now, but I hope to get back into it soon. Don't know what I should try for my 3rd. Definatly NOT another Physical class.

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"And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped” -Sir Bedevere the Wise

I too have decided to take on a Thief SCC. Sounded fun So far it's not too tough, but I've only just started. Just reached level 10 and am just about to tackle the mountain with the dragon on it (just after the wind shrine).

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Do you think we're forever?

tch, i thought a bare SSC would be a little easy, but i gave up at the ship graveyard. (the siren killed me...) i really commend all of you for achieving such daunting tasks...because i know i could never do any of these in a million years! maybe someday though...(i mean, berserker?! never would i think of attempting such a thing...)

so, yes, congratulations to all of you.

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tch, i thought a bare SSC would be a little easy, but i gave up at the ship graveyard. (the siren killed me...) i really commend all of you for achieving such daunting tasks...because i know i could never do any of these in a million years! maybe someday though...(i mean, berserker?! never would i think of attempting such a thing...)

so, yes, congratulations to all of you.

The first SCC I ever started was Berserker. They're still incredibly overpowered and mired in quicksand. I don't know if they'll ever make it out alive.

I wouldn't think knights would be a walk in the park. Their heavy armor keeps them weighted down and slow. In almost every RPG where you get a number of attacks per unit time (dA/dt), increasing the rate of attack is much more valuable than increasing the amount of damage you deal per turn. Their additional defense and HP from vitality help offset this, but I suspect that thief and ninja might be easier classes to SCC.

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Oh sure, I don't have to get kicked in the junk to activate it, but I like it anyway. -- Thief commenting on the difference between Throw and Blue Magic.

Quote (WildHalcyon @ 12th November 2005 16:08)

I wouldn't think knights would be a walk in the park. Their heavy armor keeps them weighted down and slow. In almost every RPG where you get a number of attacks per unit time (dA/dt), increasing the rate of attack is much more valuable than increasing the amount of damage you deal per turn. Their additional defense and HP from vitality help offset this, but I suspect that thief and ninja might be easier classes to SCC.

The knights wasn't a walk in the park, but I would say it is Several times easier then Monk. Between getting the Brave Blade, Exalabur, and 2 Enhancers, Double Grip on all of them, and Runningshoes for Haste, brute force goes along way. Leveling up till you have Mid-2000's hp, and buying Elixers is the rest. Making sure to get a Wall-Ring in Barrier Tower (2 would be better) would have made it easier to get through Fork Tower, and just brute strength will let you compleate everything else through N-zone. Neo-X-Death was a struggle, trying to keep everyone alive, but I'd give it about mid-difficulty. (I did all sidequests, including Bahamut, Phoenix Tower, Odin, and all 4 tablets with the Knight. Trench was annoying, but I just went in with 99 Hi-potions, and came out with 2.)

I'm having alot more trouble with monks, just because in N-zone, KaiserKnuckles are a must, which takes up a spot for RunningShoes/Guard Rings. They have tons of HP, but even WITH KaiserKnuckles, they don't do enough damage to Neo-X-Death.

This post has been edited by Fadien on 12th November 2005 22:38

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"And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped” -Sir Bedevere the Wise

Yea, Monks are tough. I'm stuck on X-Death in world 2. Well, not really STUCK, I'm just too lazy to get out sinec I don't particularly like Monks.

Knight wouldn't be TOO awful, I don't think. I, too, think they'd be easier than Monks, especially since there are elemental weapons for them so you can play weaknesses a little bit.

Berserker was my first SCC, and I made it all the way to Neo-Exdeath somehow. I can't beat him, though. Not being able to heal is a HUGE drawback. Basically, you hafta go into the battle with Neo without taking any damage from the first form at all, and then hope you hit the right enemies and such. I got him down to two targets, but Almagest is a freakin monster. I might come back to it later...

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Is PJ

Did you get any Wall Rings in Barrier Tower Caeser? Helps against X-death alot too. I remember just BARELY making it through him.

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"And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped” -Sir Bedevere the Wise

Yea, I always pick up 4 in there. I think my main problem is not being able to heal fast enough. The third-tier black magic isn't bad, and he really doesn't get too hard until he attacks three times per turn. And that's not even too bad until he does VacuumWave and EarthShaker as two of his attacks. Those are really hard to recover from. I remember getting really far and then he'd kill one of my characters with that combo, and then while I was busy healing the others, he'd do it again, and then again. I guess I should just keep attacking when he gets to that point, or keep track of his damage and then use 4 Build-ups to try to bypass that whole 3-attack-per-turn stage entirely.

I dunno. If I get back into it, I'll prolly find some way to beat him.

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Is PJ

Trainers are going well. They're at Karnak. I'm spending a lot of time just taking them around trying to find the best enemies to capture, Im not using the capture guide just checking every enemy I encounter.

Capturing is pretty difficult without the jar. I'll only get ONE too.. ouch. Can I capture an enemy with it, finish the battle, swap the jar to someone else, and still have the first captured monster?

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Oh sure, I don't have to get kicked in the junk to activate it, but I like it anyway. -- Thief commenting on the difference between Throw and Blue Magic.

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Capturing is pretty difficult without the jar. I'll only get ONE too.. ouch. Can I capture an enemy with it, finish the battle, swap the jar to someone else, and still have the first captured monster?

I don't see why not. You don't lose your monster if you change your weapons, do you?

If you do, then you may be in trouble. But, as I'm assuming, don't lose your monster, than you should be safe.

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Is PJ

Oh man... Garula kicked my ass. My thieves are at lvl 15 or so, and they're each armed with the current best armor and stolen mythril knives. 99 tonics don't help either... time to lvl up some more. Or maybe I just suck.

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Do you think we're forever?

It gets easier as thieves level up, but they're always going to be a little behind in the HP and damage depts.

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Oh sure, I don't have to get kicked in the junk to activate it, but I like it anyway. -- Thief commenting on the difference between Throw and Blue Magic.

Well, there hasn't been a post here for a while, and i think this topic deserves to stay open.

My berserkers didn't do very well, and got stuck at the beginning of world 2, so i had to start from the beginning. I got through fairly easily, Siren changed to undead at the worst possible time though, so i had trouble with her, but scraped by. All went well until Karnak. I was level 15 and thought "I have the best weapons and armour, i'll wipe the floor with Liquid Flame". How wrong i was. Fire2 and Blaze got me begging for mercy. plus, the useless accuracy of the Mythril Hammers allowed him to heal using Fire2. I kept training and got to level 18. I beat him with only Reina standing. Very close, but hey. It was only after that i thought it might have been a good idea to use mage mashers to silence him...

At the current, i'm heading back to Walz to get Shiva. Am not looking forward to Byblos, however.

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Fought Shiva, was a lot easier than i expected. But then again, it's intended for before Garula. Accuracy still sucked though.

This post has been edited by footbigmike on 4th February 2006 20:09

Byblos is a cakewalk compared to the sandworm. *shudder*

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Oh sure, I don't have to get kicked in the junk to activate it, but I like it anyway. -- Thief commenting on the difference between Throw and Blue Magic.

And Sandworm is a walk in the park compared to Sol Cannon, Catastrophe (since you can't use float), and Neo-Exdeath.

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Is PJ

Well, since people have started posting here I think I will too, I am now in world three with my berskers gotten everything and am now stuck . . . . on the forest boss in the cleft of deminsion. Any ideas? Also, footbigmike goodluck with sand worm , , , he is evil. I suggest lvl 30 and a large amount of luck.

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SCC completed: berserkers !!!
SCC working on: black mage
SCSJ I working on: red mage , blue mage.

I don't remember having any trouble with the forest boss. I'm not really sure to tell you. Just enter the battle and you should win.

Just for grins, what level are you?

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Is PJ

I'm lvl 45 right now and trying to figure how to get 4 mjonirs.

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SCC completed: berserkers !!!
SCC working on: black mage
SCSJ I working on: red mage , blue mage.

You can steal Thor's Hammer/Mjollnir (I forgot what it's called in-game...I prefer Mjollnir since it's cooler ) from somebody in the N-Zone using the Thief Knife. I think it was one of those claw thingies. Death Claw? I don't know. Either Death Claw or a palette swap, I think. Regardless, he is past the N-Zone, I believe, so unfortunately, those are out of the question.

You can steal another of the most powerful axes (Giant Axe?) from Twin Tania before it uses Megaflare on you, if you happen to get lucky enough to land that finishing blow with a Berserker with Thief Knife and just happen to steal it. Even I didn't get that lucky.

Best of luck!

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Is PJ

Man... I really feel like playing a berzerker SCC. >:) Just patch in a code to make Butz into one right from the start and...

I think I will. >:)

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

well, since that is out of the question I guess I'll just gain a few lvls . . . thanks though caesar. BTW, you think I could make a thread devoted to berserker SCC's or should it stay here.? Also, if you have the patience you should silverlance its quite fun also the all jobs code is on the fist page of this thread.

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SCC completed: berserkers !!!
SCC working on: black mage
SCSJ I working on: red mage , blue mage.

I have the codes; takes about a second to find the right one by switching characters jobs and looking for IDs. I made myself a code to keep the other characters dead at all times too, since this is an SCaCC (I had FF6's SCC (single character challenge) in mind; Single Character and Class Challenge.)

Here are the codes I'm using...
7E:0501 - 0x06 ; Butz is a 'zerker.
7E:2086 - 0x0000 ; Force Lenna's HP to 0. Kills her instantly.
7E:2106 - 0x0000 ; Ditto with Galuf/Kara/Kururu/call her whatever and just sod off allready!
7E:2186 - 0x0000 ; Faris. Cuz y'know, screw her and all that. >"<
7E:0BBF - 0x03 ; Cuz it's funny.
7E:1D05 - 0x?? ; With varying values for the same reason as the above code. Sorry SPC7000, you're being raped. XD

Obviously this is impossible, but I want to see how far I can go. I'm going to have to cook up a code to let myself switch Butz into the other party for the twin towers though (if I get there) otherwise it won't be a real SCC...

Edit: Already level 9-ish. Gotta love the recovery spring in the first cave...

Edit 2: ...Sol Cannon? Man, that's an easy fight even with just physical attacks. Unless you're playing a low-level game...

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 6th February 2006 04:39

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

well, just so you know its impossible . . . you cannot beat solcannon its impossible with one person, everything else maybe . . but not solcannon he does too much damage.

Edit: no you just cant do enough damage you see the lauchers will be easy but you can only get hit by surge beam twice . . I dont think you can do that much damage fast enough. .(no offence of course.)

This post has been edited by berskersrpretty on 6th February 2006 04:44

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SCC completed: berserkers !!!
SCC working on: black mage
SCSJ I working on: red mage , blue mage.

Actually, with a single character, you can only take a single Surge Beam, since you will most definitely get hit by rocket. A SSCC is impossible.

And yes, Sol Cannon is incredibly hard with 4 Berserkers. Two surge beams = instakill.

And I am a huge trend setter for inspiring two others to do the SCC.

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Oh, and to answer your question, berskersrpretty, I see no problem with using this thread for Berserker SCC discussion. It is an SCC, after all.

This post has been edited by Caesar on 6th February 2006 20:45

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Is PJ

That is fine with me caesar, and I have been wondering did you ever beat the bersker SCC,

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SCC completed: berserkers !!!
SCC working on: black mage
SCSJ I working on: red mage , blue mage.