Posted: 19th June 2004 01:45
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Thread title - I would have to say that Strago is one of the 3 most valuable characters in the game. Worth it? Absolutely. I arrange my whole game around getting Strago in each party as soon as possible. Spells + Lores + max Magic Power + Economizer + Gem Box = POWERHOUSE!
Poll characterization - Strago is one of the worst developed characters, has poor/weak dialogue and his section of the story really slows things down, as far as action and suspense goes. Yes, I would have preferred that a more interesting character (dialogue, story section, sprite) have the Lore skill and the stat arrangement of Strago. Quote His blue magic was alright but could have been better implemented. Amen, Muggle_Master. I think FF7 did a better job of Enemy Skill placement than FF6 did. The game is 99% over when you get Forcefield, Quasar and Rippler, the coolest spells in his arsenal. They should have been spread out more evenly earlier in the game. If they are going to nerf his stats so much and give him the poorest weapon and armor sets, then he should have better powers available sooner. This post has been edited by Detah on 20th June 2004 01:12 |
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Posted: 19th June 2004 15:37
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Quote Umaro: Uncontrolable. Incapable of speech. Very little backstory or forestory. Just plain stupid. Bad. Umaro should go bye bye. Umaro can talk. He says something like "Me go wait in your big airship." |
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Posted: 20th June 2004 06:04
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Sorry, you're right. Umaro does talk, ONCE, and then all he says is UGAAAAAHHH or something like that. At least Gogo had the curtesy to be silent instead of saying UGAAAAAAAH.
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Posted: 21st June 2004 18:04
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I generaly never use Strago if I can avoid it, But I sorta like Relm, and her music, although I find her ability a bit useless. As for Umaro... I don't think I ever used him much either, but I don't think the game would have been better without his presence.
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Posted: 21st June 2004 19:09
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Umaro is one of my favorite characters! I've beaten the game before with Umaro, Cyan, Gogo, and Locke, with ease. He and Locke do the most damage out of my party, Gogo uses magic (mainly healing) and Cyan can go either way.
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Posted: 24th June 2004 19:30
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these characters definitely arent so bad that the game suffered from them being in the game. seriously, if you dont like the characters dont get them in the WOR, and if you do get them dont USE them.
personally i like relm and umaro. relms got crazy good base magic stat and umaro well hes just awesome, especially in the magus tower. strago sucks ill give you that but gau sucks just as much. i also like having 14 characters, more the better, gives the game more replay value. for instance, instead of going through the game with the typical strong, popular characters i went through with my main party including the rejects and i found it was actually a lot of fun. gau you still suck tho and nothing can change that |
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Posted: 26th June 2004 16:07
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Quote (GreatWall) strago sucks ill give you that but gau sucks just as much. Would you mind backing up that statement with facts? I believe I demonstrated how Gau does more for the game. If you're talking about battle effectiveness then I'd like to hear your take on how Strago is equal to Gau. This post has been edited by i90east on 26th June 2004 16:07 -------------------- FFXI (Siren server) Tauu the Windurstian Tarutaru! White Mage & Paladin |
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Posted: 27th June 2004 06:31
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I don’t care about Umaro at all -- he brings nothing to the story, and you can’t control him in battle -- but Strago and Relm are often part of my party. Personality-wise, I don’t like them too much, but they have an important role in the plot, and they can be very powerful.
Strago has naturally high Magic Power, but more importantly, he has Lore. The downside is that it takes a long time to get the best Lore spells, but once you get a full complement of Lore spells, Strago makes the best magic-user in my book. (I am sure to get him all the spells, as well.) Relm actually has the highest natural Magic Power, even higher than Terra’s. (By natural, I mean no enhancements due to equipment or leveling up with Espers.) Relm often becomes one of my best magic-users. Relm is also useful in that if she and Strago are in the party, she can use Sketch or Control to acquire Lores for Strago. (The same can be done with Gau if you know the right Rages.) -------------------- The world before the fall... Delightful is the light of dawn... Noble is the heart of man... |
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Posted: 29th June 2004 22:58
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Indeed Gau is the Sleeper, when I first played the game through I almost never used him but later when I got older I realized his true power, and nothing could stand in his path. To answer the question of all the three I would have to say leave Strago im, but give him a better backstory and better lores. Umaro has almost the same amount of personality as Gogo:none, then again he's an ape. Relm, I just really really don't like her for some reason.
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Posted: 1st July 2004 15:44
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Plot: Relm is quite important to the sidestory involving Shadow. Strago is important to the sidestory involving Relm (get it?), as well as information about espers and whatnot. Also, they "provide" a town for Kefka to "decimate" (although all the buildings and inhabitants still look the same afterwards). Umaro is a hidden character who's linked with Mog plotwise, but bascially insignificant plotwise.
Gameplay: Relm definitely isn't my favorite character; Sketch and Control are two of the more useless skills I've seen (although they're good for getting Strago his lores). Umaro's essentially berserk status (without the speed boost, alas) is sometimes useful, especially in a team with Cyan (Swdtech charging time, people). However, Strago's Lore skill is extremely kickarse, especially with StepMine early on and GrandTrain later. He also get to use wind- and water-elemental spells without the help of items or espers. I personally consider Strago the second-most powerful character in the game, second to Terra. -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Posted: 1st July 2004 18:03
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Woohoo, my first post here.
On the other hand, no woohoo, because as it is a first post nobody will pay attention to it. Anyways: Strago- As far as story goes, Strago holds as much place in the story as some of the other characters. He has the whole "wise old geezer" thing down, and he is pretty funny. Battle, I don't know why he's so overlooked. Early on in the game Strago has quite a useful ability. HE CAN USE RODS! This is very useful (before you get Cure3+Economizer) as Strago can give any member in your party a free 1200 health boost almost the instant you get him, for free. Granted, Relm can use rods too, but she has a lower Batpwr, making Strago more suitable. If you aren't easily kept alive through most battles (some of the harder boss fights nonwithstanding) then... And if that amount of healing isn't enough for when you get him you won't be dying soon anyway. Relm- Storywise, just go with the whole Shadow n' Strago tie-in argument made earlier. In battle she has some nice armour and weapons. But who cares about the weapons? She has high magic! Ok, so she doesn't naturally learn anything. That I believe was due to lazy programming, somebody at Square assumed that with the amount of Espers then available you wouln't need preprogrammed magic abilities. And, while it wasn't intentional, the ability to get a nice big supply of Gem Boxes before the WoR was nice. Umaro- Ok, Umaro has no story other than his being Mog's slave. Mog isn't that important either, so Umaro is worthless to the story. In battle he has some nice attack, but that nice attack was made null by that ant lvl. 37 or something he did 2500 per attack, but my other characters were doing a nifty 1200 or so with Quick, Gem Box, Economizer, and Flare (No, I never learned Ultima, I got the Ragnarok Sword and never uncursed the shield. I tried to, even to the point where I still had it equipped on Mog during during the final battle with Kefka.) In that, Umaro=crud. Gogo- Wins the award for most irrelevant character. However he had little grenn men in his "hideout" :) Battle... He could do a good Bum Rush. End of story. |
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Posted: 2nd July 2004 21:00
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I say that they're definitely worth it. While I don't really like Relm or Strago's special abilities, I always appreciate that they can use the "Heal Rod" - this gives a powerful healing ability to them without the use of MP.
Umaro is one of my strongest characters, but only when equipped with the Rage Ring. The attack he uses where he throws another character into the enemy is great. -------------------- |
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Posted: 4th July 2004 05:53
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My views on Umaro are torn. On one hand in battle he's invaluable (Especially if you equip him with a blizzard orb and another relic that I cannot remember), hurting baddies while your most powerful magic user starts the QUICK-HASTE2-spell chain, or if you simply are forced to use Cyan and his slow SwordTechs. However in regards to the story itself I see him as just a henchman of Mog's. Not a lot of depth or background there. What would have made Umaro more interesting would be if it was revealed that he wasn't really a Yet,i but a man turned into a beast....... by the old coot from Kothlingen!
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