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Posted: 11th October 2005 00:46

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The idea, hinted way back in a dead thread, is deciding which characters from which FF to make the cut into the roster. Since having a Mugen (google it) of everyone isn't going to work for an authentic fighting game, I've limited the choices of up to four per category (game). List only your four choices for each listed category, and I'll compose and edit the list to contain popular choices, with parenthetical counts of votes next to each name. Only the topmost voted will make it, ties past the initial four won't. As to what sort of game engine they'd be duking it out in, I leave that up to your imagination to whatever works best, be it GGXX style or SSBM style or such.

EDIT as of 10/13 4:10 pm
There still is the problem of a possibly oversized roster. Please decide if this will be FF-only or all of Squaresoft or SquareEnix. If the latter, then I might cut down the categories from 4 each to 3 or even 2 each. If you'll notice, some nominations were removed. This is because of ties. It's quite possible that not all categories will get full, so the roster might not be as crowded as it could be.
The Final Bosses category is for the fighting game bosses, like Giga Bowser and Master Hand are for SSBM. As such, those tossed with specific games will move here. Note that if a boss is game-specific and is roughly final, it qualifies for this category over the game category. This goes for all nominations, I have to decide if a choice is game-specific or a generic category.

Allowable choices include:
Playable characters
Non-playable characters
Bosses

Categories include:
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy Tactics
Mascots
Summons
Chrono Trigger
Final Bosses NOT PLAYABLE

If a new category is needed, it'll need several nominations.

To inspire more creativity, I encourage movelists for given characters, whatever engine you think is best. Not only would I like to see the most popular, but also the most functional. If you pay close attention, I abbreviate variations on choices (ie Cecil) into a single choice because of redundancy. This would extend to different games as well, such as Mog from FFVI is essentially the same as the generic moogle or Stiltzkin.

Roster List As of: 10/13 4:10 pm
FFI
Monk (2)
Black Mage (1)

FFIV
[Dark/Palidon] Cecil (9)
Kain (4)
Edge (3)

FFV
Gilgamesh (4)
Faris (3)
Galuf (2)
Butz (2)

FFVI
Mog (5)
Terra (4)

FFVII
Cloud (5)
Sephiroth (4)
Tifa (4)
Red XIII (4)

FFVIII
Squall (3)
Seifer (4)
Zell (3)
Omega Weapon (2)

FFIX
Zidane (5)
Steiner (3)
Vivi (4)

FFX
Auron (5)
Lulu (2)
Wakka (2)
Seymour [Flux] (2)

Summon
Bahamut (4)
Ifrit (2)
Shiva (2)
Odin (2)

Mascot
[Jumbo] Cactaur (3)
Moogle (2)

Chrono Trigger
Frog (2)

Final Boss (non-playable)

Total Characters so Far: 33

Tabled Categories
Chrono Cross (1)
Xenogears (1)
Secret of Evermore (1)
Dragon Quest (1)

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Posted: 11th October 2005 01:21

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well to kick it off

moogle(FFVI)
gilgamesh(FFV)
zack (FFVII)
Cid Highwind(FFVII)
Tifa Lockheart(FFVII)
RedXIII(FFVII)
Edge(FFIV)
Kain(FFIV)
Rubricante(FFIV)
Shadow(FFVI)
Celes(FFVI)
Edgar(FFVI)
Golbez(FFIV)
Umaro(FFVI)
Shiva
Ifrit

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and we should have a chrono trigger catrgory
which i would nominate;
magus
frog
ayla


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Posted: 11th October 2005 01:48

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They should make this game.

OK, let's see:

FFIV:

Cecil ala Sheik (switch between Dark Knight and Paladin)
Edge, with the Masamune in one hand and the Murasame in the other (I think of Marth or Roy with two swords)

FFVI:

Shadow w/ Interceptor move ala Fox and Falco calling starships
Locke, with the ability to steal items wielded by others


I'd like to say Kefka, but think he would look kinda silly in hand-to-hand combat

FFVII:

Cloud & Sephiroth, of course...you can't avoid these two and their conflict
Rufus, complete with Shotgun
Vincent, ditto; they could even be clones of one another, except Vincent has the ability to turn into a monster when his energy gets low


Summons should work like Pokemon, and I would recommend:

Bahamut (too big of a staple not to be included)
Odin (instant KO of everyone who gets in his way except the summoner)


Off the top of my head, that's all I'd want.
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Posted: 11th October 2005 02:31
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I second the Chrono Trigger category, and my nominations would be Ayla, Magus, and Marle.

Final Fantasy IV: Cecil, Rosa, Yang
Final Fantasy V: Faris
Final Fantasy VI: Celes, Edgar, Umaro, Sabin
Final Fantasy VII: Barret, Cid, Tifa
Final Fantasy VIII: Jumbo Cactuar
Final Fantasy IX: Steiner
Final Fantasy X: Auron, Lulu


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Posted: 11th October 2005 02:41

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Hrm... let's see

FFI: Monk/Black Belt
FFIV: Cecil (transforms fr. Paladin to Drk. Knight like shiek)
FFVI: Definites:Sabin, Mog, Cyan, and Leo
FFVII: Obviously Cloud and Sephiroth, Tifa, and Barret
FFVIII: Squall/Seifer and Zell
FFIX: Zidane, Freya
FFX: Auron

Summons: Ramuh, Bahamut, Ifrit, Shiva
Mascots: Cactaur

A ssbm of ff would be completley awesome. You reading this Square-Enix?!

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Posted: 11th October 2005 02:43

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FF IV- Cecil, Kain, Palom & Porom (like ice climbers), Yang, Golbez
FF V- Faris
FF VI- Locke, Celes, Terra, Umaro, Mog, Gau (like kirby...learning the abilities by jumping)
FF VII- Cloud, Vincent, a moogle (that'd give me a laugh), Sephiroth, Yuffie, Red XIII
FF VIII- Squall, Seifer, Zell, Catoblepas, Bahamut (my fav look of him), Galbadian soldier
FF IX- Zidane, Steiner, Vivi, Blank, Trance Kuja, Necron, Deathguise(summon), Freya
FF X- ...NO ONE i hate them all...
FF X-2- Same
Crono Trigger- Magus, Crono, Frog, Robo, Lavos (as a summon)(the turtley one)

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Posted: 12th October 2005 20:03

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If I want to add a moves list, what system would this be on?

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Posted: 12th October 2005 23:19

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FFVI: Terra
FFVI: Terra
FFVI: Terra

There, that's three votes right there! shifty.gif

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Posted: 12th October 2005 23:33

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Aww, no monsters! There goes the Zone Eater, I guess...

Final Fantasy IV -- Cid, Dark Knight Cecil, Baigan, Kain
Final Fantasy V -- Galuf, Butz,
Final Fantasy VI -- Mog, Strago, Chadarnook, Phantom Train
Final Fantasy VII -- Palmer, Nanaki, Yuffie, Lady in Chocobo Suit (Gold Saucer)
Final Fantasy VIII -- Zone, Watts, Angelo, Kiros
Final Fantasy IX -- Stiltzkin, Artemecion, Gizamaluke, Beatrix
Final Fantasy X -- Shelinda, Kelk Ronso, Auron, The Monster Arena Guy
Final Fantasy Tactics -- Beowulf, Meliadoul, Zalmo, Elmdor [Limberry]
Mascots -- Jumbo Cactuar, Fat Chocobo, Tonberry King, Moogle
Summons -- Typhoon, Madeen, Doomtrain, Odin [FF8]
Final Bosses NOT PLAYABLE -- Altima [V1], Altima [V2], St. Ajora, Ultimecia/Griever
Chrono Trigger -- Frog, Ayla, Slash, Melchoir
Chrono Cross (if this counts) -- Poshul, Draggy, General Viper, Peppor

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Move Lists

FF4 --
  • Cecil = Dragon Wave, Dragon Backwards Wave, Ride the Dragon Wave
  • Kain = Jump, Jump II, Jump III, Jumpin' Boots, Jumpy-Jump-Jump
  • Rydia = Leviathan, Bombs Away, Lunar Whale Tail Slap, Moonstruck
  • Baigan = Baigan Poison, Baigan' for a Bruisin, Two-armed Poison Grapple, Turncoat Failure Explosion
FF5 --
  • Krile = ...Attack!, Weird-named Generic Krile Gun
  • Butz = ...Attack!, Butz Pants XD
  • Rena = ...Steal!, Piracy Is A Crime
  • Galuf = ...Throw!, Strago-Galuf Oldtime Killfest
FF6 --
  • Mog = Water Rondo, Snowman Jazz
  • Strago = Grand Train, Aqua Rake
  • Chadranook = Uh...help me out here FFVI'rs!
  • Phantom Train = Uh...help me out here FFVI'rs!
FF7 --
  • Palmer = Mako Gun (all three versions), Truck Magnet ;p
  • Nanaki = Earth Rave, Lunatic High
  • Yuffie = Doom of the Living, Clear Tranquil, Greased Lightning
  • Lady in Chocobo Suit at Gold Saucer = Chocodance, Choco Fury, No Refunds, Lifetime Pass Kick, 30000 Needles, Lobby Clobber
FF8 --
  • Kiros = Blood Pain, That's All Katal, Grated and Serrated
  • Angelo = Lay Around and Do Nothing All Day, Dirty the Duvet, Angelo Lounge
  • Zone = Stomach Ache, Corner-sitter Retreat, Digestive Medicine Feint, Girl Next Door Maneuver
  • Watts = Yessir!; I'm going to punch you in the face, sir!; Kick to the head, sir!; Run away, sir!; Sir, I'm self-destructing!
FF9 --
  • Gizamaluke -- Silent Voice, Holy Diver, Undertow, Creep Cave Splash, Gilled Trip; Hook, Line, and Sink You!; Creep Cavedweller Combo; Kerplunk!
  • Beatrix -- Climhazzard, Stock Break, Shock, Cure 3, Holy, Invincible Slash for Advanced Swordswomen, Can't Break My Stride, Eyepatch Laser Exploder Beam Slash, One-hit KO Attempt
  • Artemecion -- Superslick Breakdown Shuffle, Hair Gel Gutpunch, Stylin' Kick-to-the-face, No Way Am I Paying For This, Choosin' your Abusin', Mailman Slamdance, Delivery From KO Central!, Superslick Throwdown Massacre Combo, Moogle Alarm Charm
  • Stiltzkin -- Travelin' Moogle Junkpunch, Buy My Merchandise Attack, Laundered Funding Slash, Cutchoo!, Paper Shuffle, Ramshackle Tent Kerboom, Wrong Place/Wrong Time, Free-wheelin'
FFX --
  • Shelinda -- Yevon Heaven Rabbit Punch, Innocent Eye Poke, O Holy Kick of Pain, Grand Maester Flash Spin, Blitzball Foul Call, Everyone Is Mean To Me!, Listen Up Foolish Humans!
  • Auron -- Banishing Blade, Provoke, One-armed Bandit, Made in the Shades, Unsent Consent, Oversized Sword Beatdown Combo, Masamune Kill-you-you-say?, Braska Masta, Fame Throwa, This Is 4 The Fallen Combo
  • The Guy at the Monster Arena -- Long-term Abyss Worm Syndrome, Yojimbo Limbo, Degradation Trip, Ultima Bust-you-up, Cyanide 4 U, Tonberry Jivin', Is that a Simurgh In Your Pants?, Conduct-a-rod II, It's Alive!!!, Big Bowl of Flan
  • Kelk Ronso -- Auron-Kelk Disaster Tag-team, Big Mountain Ronso Collapse, Maester Taster, Maester Taster II, Maester Killer, Maester Mika-Kelk Beatdown Session, Blue-furred Fury Flurry, Zombie Chomp
FFT --
  • Beowulf -- Break, Chicken, Inkadular!, My Body Is A Templar
  • Meliadoul -- Save the Queen Suite, Tingel Jingle, Stab-Stab Parry
  • Zalmo -- Heretic Stab, Chicken, Ragtime Pagan Jive, Executioner Yell
  • Elmdor -- Teleport-2-Kill-You-2, Muramasa, Blood Suck Frenzy, Cemetery Gates
Mascots --
  • Jumbo Cactuar -- Kerplunk, 100000000 Needles, Water Storage, Don't Gimme No Vital Signs, Big Spiny, Thwomp-knocker, Jungle Fever, Subterranean Cactus Sprout, Leviathan No-No, Mid-air Fake Death Freezer, Self-destructing Cacti Laughter
  • Fat Chocobo -- Chocolounge, Chocogluttony, Choco Loco, Fall Out of Nowhere, Chococonsumption, Chococannibalism, Choco Galaxy Stop, Paradise Punch, The Neverending Choco Attack, Big Beak Break Bonanza
  • Generic Moogle -- Moogle Spear Thrust, Moogle Breakdance Advance, Moogle You-will-never-get-up-after-this-kick, Moogle Karaoke
  • Tonberry King -- DOINK'D!, Chef's Knife, Chef's Butcher Knife, Knives Out, Knify-Knify Causes Strife-y, Northern Crater Grudge, Everyone's Super-intensive Grudge, Star-over-my-head Concerto
Summons --
  • Typhoon -- Disintigration, Eat Everything, Exhalation for the Nation, Super-conductive God Breath, Sunshine for Norway, Chupon Call-back Attack!, Sneezy Breeze, Get Out of My Arena!
  • Odin [FF8] -- Zantetsuken, Gunge Lance Prance, Odin's Sword Is Shiny and Sharp Attack, Sleipner Two-step, Craven Raven
  • Doomtrain = Runaway Train, Derail'D!, Amtrack Attack, Boxcar R&R, Pullman Cannon, Sleeper Car KO, Loose Caboose, 100-car Dogpile
  • Madeen -- Madeen Spleen-shattering Dreamscream, Holy Network, Ripping Claw, Super Nova Punch of Super Nova, Hi-speed Death, Eiko's Friendship Stab, Madain Sorry!, Pocket-sized Pulverizer
Bosses --
  • Altima V1 -- Grand Cross, All-Ultima
  • Altima V2 -- Grand Cross Plusgood, All-Ultima Plusgood, Teleport-2-Kill-You-2
  • St. Ajora -- Bariaus Face-punch, Unpoisoning the Well, Burnt-at-the-stake Break, So Fara So Good!, Golgorun You Over, Please Believe Me!
  • Ultimecia/Griever -- Liongirl, Girlion, An Apocalypse Now Would Rock, Griever Teaser, Pretzel Logic, Room 4 No One, Stolen Hallation
Chrono Trigger --
  • Frog -- Masamune Piercing Uppercutter, Toadstool Monstrosity, Hero Meddling, Denadorite Fist, Slurp Homicide, Early Retirement, Hibernation, Forest Cutter, Dead-eye Earth Cleaver, Thou Art Dead, Waterball Ransack
  • Ayla -- Prehistoric Fire Punch, Goodnight Reptite, Skyrider Deluxe, Brand Nu Bag, Psycho Drift Maul, Off Clubber, Hell Hath No Fury, Ayla-Kano Insano-plex, 65000000 BC Ender, Azala Driver, Soup-drinker's Headcrush
  • Melchoir -- Weaponbreaker, Neverender, 7-sworded Mincing, End of Time 4 U, Over Zeal, Disappearer, Masamune Remastered, Outskirt Heckran Four-plex, Dreamstoner, Lunging Stomach Slicer, Sky Dive Earth Breaker
  • Slash -- Blue-faced Demon Breath, Slasher II!, No More Games, Bend of Time Attack, Head-offer, Metal Scars, Cross-delayed, 3-D Attack, Oh-no Trigger, 25-hit Chain Sword, Ball of Hate, Over Exposure
Chrono Cross --
  • Poshul -- Doggy Dunnit Again, Unleashed, K9-Ball Roller, Ruff Stuff, Heckran Bonebreaker, Arni Pillage, Sleeper Hit, Ground-'n'-Pound, Thpontaneouthry Combuthting, Perthuathiveneth Piledriver, Lisp Clipper, K9 KO, Rawr!!!
  • Draggy -- Big Breath, Big Breath Deluxe, Egg-hatcher's Laser Strike, Fossil Canyon Brawler, R-R-Run Away Now!, Fortune Nixer, Prehistoric Dragon Driver, Draggy Driver, Little Wing (No Slight Return), Who Punch?
  • General Viper -- Viper's Vertical Venom Volley, Vital Force, Time Out, Cholesterol Backstabber, Dragonia Spiral Down, Otherworldly Appearing Attack, Diva 5-strike, Mind Your Manors, I Was Bluffing!, Missing Lynx, Dragon Tear You Apart
  • Radius -- Ancient Breath, Tirade Raid, Cane Blocker Supreme, Mayor Slayer, Arni Army, Water Dragon Isle Cruiser, FATE Bomb, Diva 5-Diver, Too Bad So Sad, Garai G'bye Sleight, URA Goner, Methuselah Channeling


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Posted: 13th October 2005 00:44

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Hm.

FFVI:

• Kain
• Rosa
• Cecil
• Rubicant

FFV:

• Bartz
• Gilgy
• Faris
• Galuf

FFVI:

• Terra
• Sabin
• Edgar
• Cyan

FFVII:

• Cloud
• Cid
• Rufus
• Tifa

FFX:

• Wakka
• (Just guess.)
• Lulu
• Auron

Well, those are mine. happy.gif

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Posted: 13th October 2005 13:41

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we need to have more villians in there
like one of the turks

and for that i would nominate reno

from fftactics
T.G. Cid
beowulf
Agrias

from ffix
vivi
zidane

from ffx
Auron
Kimahri
rikku

P.S i dont think we should have generic characters it takes the uniqueness out of the game

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Posted: 13th October 2005 14:17

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Meh, I'll just do two or three from each game that deserve it. And I'll also expand the definition to super Square-Enix brothers. I'm not choosing my favorite characters, just ones that would create decent variety and *might* fit in to such a game. I'm not doing every Squenix game in existence, mind you, just a few random ones.

FF IV: Paladin Cecil, Dark Knight Cecil, Edge
FF V: Gilgamesh, Guido
FF VI: Cyan, Mog, Terra
FF VII: Vincent, Red XIII
FF VIII: Zell, Squall, Seifer
FF IX: Vivi, Zidane, Beatrix
FF X: Tidus, Wakka
FFT: Orlandu, Mustadio
Chrono Trigger: Crono, Frog, Magus
Xenogears: Citan, Rico, Emeralda, hell, all of them would fit the bill
Secret of Evermore: The Boy and his Dog (as one character)
Dragon Quest Series: The Hero, Slime

Oh yeah, topic creator, the idea of actuallying nominating and recording characters is ludicrous. This isn't going to go anywhere, and this isn't gamefaqs.

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Posted: 13th October 2005 15:04

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Final Fantasy-Monk
Final Fantasy IV- errr Dark Knight Cecil
Final Fantasy V- n/a (no one is actually almighty powerful)
Final Fantasy VI- Shadow
Final Fantasy VII- Emerald Weapon
Final Fantasy VIII- Omega Weapon (if possible selphie with "The End")
Final Fantasy IX- 3 Yans and steiner with shock and all those other last abilties,vivi with doomsday
Final Fantasy X- Seymor Flux
Final Fantasy Tactics- T.G. Cid (with all abilities), Olan with auto haste and lvl 99 with 999 mp >:D
Summons-Bahamut, Tonberry
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Posted: 13th October 2005 17:39

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I: Black Mage
IV: Cecil (Sheik transformation)
V: Gilgamesh, Omega, Shinryu
VI: Ultros, Siegfried.
VII: Sephiroth, Jenova, Cloud
VIII: Omega Weapon, Ultima Weapon, Seifer
IX: Zidane, Kuja/Trance Kuja
X: Sin, Seymour, Magus Sisters (Ice Climber thing)
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Posted: 30th October 2005 23:33

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you know what ultros from FFVI could play in a sortof bowser/samus esque style

it would be interesting to play as ultros

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Posted: 31st October 2005 01:53

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Some commentary ideas (by NO means complete or comprehensive):

1. How about including the White Mage of FFI (gender unspecified)? The WM could wield the now-trademark hammer, and be skilled at self-healing and healing of other characters. (That'd make for an interesting twist so far unseen in Smash Bros. games.)

2. Omega of FFV should be a special boss. (NOT a playable character, of course.)

3. Ultros should be playable, but hidden--to be unlocked after the player completes something.

4. Magus from CT should be included, along with his characteristic Dark Matter spell, but that spell should have special restrictions put on it such that it isn't abused--such as long charging time, limited use per battle, etc..

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