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Why if Kefka wanted to destroy the world, did he not just use the Guardian's to do that. The Guardian's power is virtually limitless. I've tried a hack version, and did tons of attacks with 9,999 damage, and they didn't even kill the Guardian. The Guardian has the most power in this game. There is no way to defeat them. How come Kefka didn't just use those to defeat the heros.

because guardians are too ez to kill. use bolt3... well lets see... 9 times and they die. and kefka WOULD want to face the heroes, just for the heck of it. and the guardians cant even do 9999 damage to you.

Because think about it. Kefka was one of three imperial generals and Geshtal was also above him so throughout the entire WoB his power was in check. The only way he could get the edge on his peers and supperiors was to use magic. And also the Guardian was still being tested when you first came throught the Magitek factory so it wasn't ready for battle. Also note that you CANNOT kill the Guardian your first time through so even if you do 99999999999999999999999999999999999 damage to it it wouldent make any difference and you DO eventualy kill it, plus there is only one.

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If you've finished the game, you should know this:

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The Guardian is a beatable boss in Kefka's tower.

It's only ever unbeatable as a game device to stop you going where you shouldn't. It's never talked up as being some unbeatable weapon, and it isn't, except to force the rules of the game upon you.

Quote (Tiddles @ 20th March 2004 11:44)

It's only ever unbeatable as a game device to stop you going where you shouldn't. It's never talked up as being some unbeatable weapon, and it isn't, except to force the rules of the game upon you.

Even then, through a glitch pointed out in the trivia thread it is technically possible to "beat" him, though he will remain where he is, and nothing will happen. If you wanna see how to do this, it is in the FF6 trivia thread.

Odd....jes one of the many times in which a game becomes grossly illogical because of storyline fodder...I mean, how is it that a boss that u could hardly scratch at first suddenly becomes beatable??? I mean, it ain't as if your characters' attack and defensive values were so low as compared from between those times when you couldn't beat him then and when you actually squash him easily....were they?

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Quote (harry_kinomoto @ 21st March 2004 09:54)

Odd....jes one of the many times in which a game becomes grossly illogical because of storyline fodder...I mean, how is it that a boss that u could hardly scratch at first suddenly becomes beatable??? I mean, it ain't as if your characters' attack and defensive values were so low as compared from between those times when you couldn't beat him then and when you actually squash him easily....were they?

You first fight him in the WOB. You later fight him at the end of the game. You -should- really have improved quite a lot between those points.

Not just because of attack and defence and whatnot, but the storyline suggests that with experience the heroes learnt how to overcome it. So it's not really that illogical.

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gaurdian was easy, he had alot of HP but he wasnt not hard at all...

Quote (Iggy @ 21st March 2004 11:21)

Not just because of attack and defence and whatnot, but the storyline suggests that with experience the heroes learnt how to overcome it. So it's not really that illogical.

Actually, another theory is that, when you fight the Guardian the final time, the Guardian "RAN BASIC PROGRAM." It's possible that without all those Imperial Officers, Cid, the Emperor, etc, that Kefka didn't know how to power the Guardian to it's full potential attack mode, or since the machinery is Magitek based, the power-hungry Kefka drained it of most of it's Magitek to add to himself (the guy was all about power. Imagine if you had all the Magicite he amassed, eh?)

Very interesting insights, everyone! Thanks for the responses! I'm actually on Jason's side, because are your stats at that time REALLY that low to the extent hat you can't even do 1 damage to him??? There has got to be a more logical explanation, and Jason's seems plausible...what do you all think?

But in this instance, answers have generated more questions... Say, how do you people think the Empire made the Guardian anyway?

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I'm banking the Guardian is pretty much like ED209 back in the Robocop movies. It's a machine that they just gave heavy, heavy firepower to, about 10-20x more than Magitek armor. When you think about it the Guardian is basically a stationary M-Tek Armor designed to prevent intruders from entering occupied territory. Probably just has more Magitek infused in it than any of the Empire's other devices. Keep in mind, Celes has Runic ability, as the result of her Magitek infusion. It's not farfetched that spells have no effect on the Guardian due to it having the same defenses.

Realistically speaking, I remember finding out somehow (can someone verify this?) that the game sets all damage to the Guardian at 0 for your fights at Vector and Thamasa, and only gets rid of that when you fight it in Kefka's Tower.

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Hmmmm....I'm not much of a romhacker but if I remember the WoB Guardian's Attack Defense is 235, which is ridiculously high of course, the one in Kefka's Tower has somewhere around 150, so that might be why it's so tough to do damage....but someone else'll probably correct me on that.

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If you look through the Guardian's battle script, he does have a hidden status named invincible. I think that it's clear enough

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