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Has anyone ever found the rumored scene involving setzer and gogo? Supposedly it backs up the whole gogo is daryl theory, but I have never heard of the scene explicitly mentioned.

I didn't find the Gogo-Daryl rumor at this site's rumor page, so here is some information about the rumor if you haven't heard it:
page: http://www.square-x.com/news/128

This sounds interesting (if in fact it is true). I'm gonna check it out. So, do you think that "having Setzer and Gogo in your group" means that you can only have them two together, nobody else? Anyway, since they talk about the cliff on the Solitary Island, I'ma check there first.

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this is a great find in promoting that daryl is gogo, but there is something like this in another final fantasy....

and it is VII

if any of you having been trying to find zack this is the only way, aND YES IT CAN BE DONE in the beginning of the game at midgar, people will ask you a series of questions, and if you answer them correctly, this'll happen: when escaping from the church. aeris will say "you remind me of an old boyfriend" i know these are not her exact words, but it is very close to this.
then in kalm after you have the flashbacks you need to talk to tifa, and she'll mention something about finding a bloody body outside of midgar, continue on with your journey
then on disk 2 get the fake masamune, and whatever it is called (i can't remember) it is something like "mine sweep" or "reactor sweep", but it is something to clean a reactor, and both of these items can be won at gold saucer "speed" ride, and don't say it ismpossible to get these items, i did after 6 tries.
then go to gongonga reactor use the prop masamune and the reactor sweep(some name like that) on the reactor in that order. then stuff occurs and then you have to move on
then on disk 3 when you enter north crater you'll see zack and then he'll join your party

i have accomplished getting aeris to say "you remind me of..."(something like that), talked to tifa in kalm, and she'll mention the body, then i've won the prop masamune, and the reactor sweep
but i never used it on the gongonda reactor, because i didn't know about this back then

so i was pretty close to getting zack then, and i havn't gotten that close since

so basically the gogo + setzer scene could take events from the beginning of the game to occur a certain way,
good luck to anyone who attempts to accomplishes seeing the scene

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Wow. Wish I had time to play and see about both hidden parts of both games. I've never heard of that thing about Zack. Is there anything else you can say about it? Maybe have a web address about it?
And that's kinda broad about having Setzer and Gogo together. You could just power both of them up real high and just play through the game with just the two...

Edit:
Just played around with google for a few minutes. I found this.
This says Zack isn't playable.

This post has been edited by Sabin,y0! on 21st December 2003 18:17

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i'm not sure about finding zack, i found it at a webpage, where some guy said his dad worked for square, and his dad responded with that, for all i know it could be a way to meet zack in the game, and he may not be a playable character, but what i previously posted is what i know, and i truly have gotten that far in those steps,
and what was truly strange is that i was only able to get the fake masamune, and the reactor sweep, in the game that aeris responded, with the "you remind me of..." type quote
so i don't know if it's true or not, the only thing that i know is possible is the steps i've done

so nothing is for sure, and i have a question about the gogo + setzer scene, did the guy write about it beibg any specific system, such as it was in the snes version, or was it added in the playstation version?

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"Have you ever seen a baby do that before?"

Yeah the Setzer+Gogo scene description was kinda vague...

I just searched on Google for over an hour. I found about 2 dozen websites that say you can't get Zack as a playable character and about 4 that say,"I heard a way..." or,"My friend and I..." Nothing solid. I found a site that denied it back in 2000. I'm sure if it was real, it'd be on Gamefaqs.com or something by now. I think that ones fake. It would be cool tho.

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more proof that you can't believe everything that you hear on the internet. It is impossible to get Zack on FF7. As for the statement by Aeris, "You remind me of an old boyfriend, it was nothing serious...etc. etc." that occurs despite how a person plays the game. If you want to find out everything on Zack, go the the Shinra Mansion, and there is a flashback. This explains Zack and Clouds adventure, how he got the buster sword, whatever.

Setzer and Gogo? I don't think so. It wasnt even believable enough to be put on the Rumors Section. I could be wrong, but something tells me I am not. If you would like to prove me incorrect, send me a PM or whatever sending directions on how to do this. If I am wrong I will apologize.

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You'd think this would be more widely known and brought up in any "Who is Gogo" argument you could hope to find, by now, were it true. If there were even such a scene, I somehow doubt it would be as conclusive as implied here.

For reference, here's a quick way to tell how reliable a Final Fantasy rumour is:

• If the story contains "In the Japanese version..." it's very likely to be false.
• If the story contains "A friend/translator/developer/tester told me..." it's also very likely to be false.

Cloud_Strife510: Notice how 1stclass asks about something read elsewhere, in this topic, rather than immediately presenting it as fact, as you have done with your unrelated FF7 rumour, which you obviously haven't bothered to check out. Rumours of Zack in FF7 are completely unrelated and should not be in this topic, in any case. I'd split them into a new one, but I can tell you right now that they're all completely false.

After all these years since the release of Final Fantasy 6. People have asked who is Gogo. I think the answer on the webpage is simply just an easy answer to a mystery that was supposed to be unsolved. Due to the fact FF5 also featured Gogo, I will always be under the impression that Gogo is just a fun special character for the player to discover. Until I'm proven otherwise.

tiddles it was just an example used to show what extent someone might have to go through to see the scene, be it true or false
sorry for any inconvience of it being off topic, but it was mainly to show that if it was true, it might take a lot to occur

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"Have you ever seen a baby do that before?"

I believe there is quite a few FF6 editors out there that break down different lines of dialogue throughout the game. If this were true, I believe someone would have discovered the secret dialogue, be it Japanese or American, someone would've already discovered it and had a page with pics, dialogue, etc. Yet another rumor, in my mind with no real backing.

It's just one of X amount of rumours about Gogo as (fill in the blank).

My personal theory is that Gogo somehow caught some type of transdimentional portal from FFV and landed in FFVI. Gogo in FFV was just like the Gogo in FFVI, a total mystery.

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The real truth about gogo is that he is ion fact deceased Illinois governor Adial Stevenson. I know this sounds insane, but go to this link to findout more. It is way too long to post here. Go to near the bottom of the page in the FAQ section

[URL=http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/final_fantasy_iii_j.txt]

Meh. I don't believe it. Coincidental, but even the guy that you put the link to says that it is not entirely believable. I think that Gogo is probably Daryl, but I have no evidence (at the moment. Maybe, but probably nopt, later) to support that theory.

This post has been edited by Figaro on 22nd December 2003 16:50

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Wow. 1,000 posts.

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I'm buying the Adlai Stevenson story.
Although Gogo in FFV DID get sucked into a dimensional warp and was never seen until FFVI so....

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I'm actually pretty sure that FFVI Gogo was based on some characteristics of Adlai Stevenson. The designers just put it in for amusement. Whether FFVI Gogo has anything to do with FFV Gogo is something I don't know.

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i have one question however: why would Japanese wirters involve a dead US Governor in thier game?

This post has been edited by Del S on 23rd December 2003 20:55

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just like silver maduin
i am buying the stevenson-gogo story, it makes a lot more sense, than gogo, being daryll
i believe the creators of final fantasy games, like to get thier ideas for names, and characters, from nearly everywhere. so more than likely, the creators of V could have made gogo as a joke, and then when the planning for VI came along, they loved the joke so much, they decided to make it an actual character.

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"Have you ever seen a baby do that before?"

Quote (Del S @ 23rd December 2003 14:52)

i have one question however: why would Japanese wirters involve a dead US Governor in thier game?

They didn't. Everything but the Stevenson-Wydler act is false info. Someone just researched it over at G'FAQs recently.

IOW, just as Gogo having a second identity at all is BS, so is the Adlai Stevenson theory. Doesn't that just suck?

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I'm a big supporter of the theory that Gogo is Gogo.

“Shrouded in odd clothing,… is this a man...?...a woman...?...or should we ask...?”

IMO, we shouldn't ask.

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Even though I heavily doubt Square would make such an obscure reference to Adlai Stevenson, the irony is that Gogo is as likely to be Adlai as he is to be Gogo from FFV, Daryl, or anyone else (some runner-ups to the choices are gestahl, banon, etc). There's no definitive, undebatable proof to argue a case for any character (or politician ).

And if there was such a scene involving Gogo and Setzer, it would have been found much earlier than when this article was published, be it by accident or hacking into the program and looking at the data.

I, however, am glad there's no true response to Gogo's identity, because it's one of the mysteries that makes FF6 such a classic. If I actually found out I'd probably have a little disheartened impression and just think to myself "....Oh. Ok....so he/she is (name)....that uh...well that settles it." I'd definately rather not know ^^

This post has been edited by TheEvilEye on 24th December 2003 00:02

Quote (Del S @ 23rd December 2003 15:52)

i have one question however: why would Japanese wirters involve a dead US Governor in thier game?

I have another question: why would Japanese writers include Star Wars references (the starting two characters were, in Japan, translated literally to Biggs and Wedge, not Vicks and Wedge)and the Three Stooges (in Cyan's dream). Please, enlighten me as to why Japanese find American culture so... fascinating.

Hmmm... new thread coming on...

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Gogo is just Gogo, He may draw some parralels with Adelai Stevenson but as for being Daryll or any other character I seriously doubt it. There are no clues in the game itself that say he maybe one of the other characters that are mentioned in the game.

He is just the master of Simulacrum as he was in FFV!

As for the theory on Zack in FFVII, thats far more interesting as in the last Jenova battle you have to pick 3 teams to tackle the boss. You are always left with a team of 2 for one group, as there seems to be only 8 playable characters left after Aeris' dies.

It just seems more apt to have 3 teams of 3 or is it just me?


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Pardon me, but what's this about Adlai Stevenson and Gogo? Enlighten the n00b if it's not too much trouble, please.

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As for the theory on Zack in FFVII, thats far more interesting as in the last Jenova battle you have to pick 3 teams to tackle the boss. You are always left with a team of 2 for one group, as there seems to be only 8 playable characters left after Aeris' dies.

It just seems more apt to have 3 teams of 3 or is it just me?

Well, in VI you're forced to have uneven team numbers whenever you're trying to protect the frozen esper in Narshe from Kefka and the empire's soldiers.

I don't think it means anything, it's just to make things slightly more challenging.

This post has been edited by AndrewTS on 5th January 2004 05:46

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Pardon me, but what's this about Adlai Stevenson and Gogo?  Enlighten the n00b if it's not too much trouble, please.

read the rest of the thread and any links therein to understand it.

as far as gogo and his/her multiple identitys, IMO it is daryll, but the beauty of this mystery is that you can think whatever you want, its like the author of a book leaving the ending up to the reader (i.e. The Giver). So really, you can think whatever you want. That Adlai thing is pretty funny though...


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There isn't a scene involving Gogo and Setzer...at least in the original version. My friends and I used a hacking editor and checked all of the in-game dialogue to see for ourselves...and there was nothing from the beginning of the World of Ruin to the end of the game. So this rumor is false, unless it was added in the Anthologies set, and considering how both 5 and 6 were treated in that (the cinemas were nice, but the load times were simply AWFUL, and Chrono triggers was worse) I seriously doubt there's any truth to this at all. It's just someone who wants to back up their Gogo-is-Daryl theory.

Personally, I believe that Gogo is simply Gogo, and not anyone you've previously met in the game. For one thing, the personality is pretty inconsistent with any other major character, with the possible exception of Daryl who we never get to "meet". But seeing as she is a darevil, I would accept her as Gogo before anyone else. Gestahl, IMO, would be positively chomping at the bit to get his hands on Kefka, and I don't think Banon would equate saving the world with being particularly "fun". Gogo is Gogo and that's all there is to knowknow.

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Gogo is actually Osama Bin Ladin. See it even makes sense! They both wear turban thingys, and they both hide in caves!

Wow! LMAO!!! That's hilarious! I never thought of that. But...how did you know...?

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Quote (Master ZED @ 23rd December 2003 16:29)

Quote (Del S @ 23rd December 2003 14:52)

i have one question however: why would Japanese wirters involve a dead US Governor in thier game?

They didn't. Everything but the Stevenson-Wydler act is false info. Someone just researched it over at G'FAQs recently.

IOW, just as Gogo having a second identity at all is BS, so is the Adlai Stevenson theory. Doesn't that just suck?

Hello. I’m the guy who was researching the Adlai/Gogo rumor. My conclusion is that the quotes are mostly made up. Only the Stevenson/Wydler Act / GOGO part held up at all.

You can check out the proof at my website if you’re feeling really depressed.

GOGO IS NOT ADLAI

PS – If you make (good) suggestions on how to improve the site I will credit you at the end. BYE!

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