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Are any of FFVI's characters even named by their middle or last names even? I know Square made 'em, but are they in the game? Also, if you know of any more, do share. For reference purposes, I have put all of the ones I know of here:

Terra Branford
Locke Cole
Edgar Roni Figaro
Sabin Rene Figaro
Cyan Garamonde
Celes Chere
Setzer Gabbiani
Strago Magus
Relm Arrowny
Leo Christophe
Kefka Palazzo

About Shadow,

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Shadow is Clyde Arrowny

This post has been edited by Figaro on 19th December 2003 18:12

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All the ones we know of are on the Final Fantasy VI Characters page, guy. Best check the site before asking here, eh?

As for their appearance in the game, uncover the spoiler if you've played it all through:

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They're in the ending, where it goes through all the characters. I thought it was quite hard to miss, but I guess that's just me.

My bad. OK, then, what does you peoples THINK of their last names? Are they cool? Are they sucky? Are they useless? I'm just nosey, I guess.

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The last names fit the characters well.

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By the way, you forgot to mention Celes Chere.

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Oops. I must be going nutz
*slaps self for being a wacko*
She's up there now.

To stay on subject, I like the names, especially Setzer's, Edgar and Sabin's (hence my name), and Locke's.

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Since the last name subject is brought up, I just wanted to say that one of the characters has a name directly coming from french. Celes Chere, wich if you switch surname and last name becomes "Dear Celes", a really pretty name for a beautiful young woman.
Having said that, I just need to add that I like most of the names. Their appearance in the game is rather thin (I think that only the Figaro brothers can be guessed...) but it's a nice adjonction. My favorite being Cyan Garamonde, because it fits him very nicely (again, but this time roughly translated from french, it can mean "beware of [the/a] world").

Mr Thou--I read somewhere that "Garamonde" is a combination of the French words for train station and world. Could somebody verify that? (I know "monde"="world" from Latin, but I'm not sure of the rest of it.)

I like Leo's last name; somehow it does convey his personality. I also like Locke's last name, but not really that much. Most of the last names I thought weren't that good. (My personal favorite last name is Harvey from Cecil Harvey of FFIV; you can easily see evidence of that.)

By the way, is Gestahl the emperor's first or last name, and what's his other name? And does anybody know about Duncan, Banon, Rachel, Daryl, Vicks, Wedge, etc.?



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You're perfectly right, Glenn : a "gare" is a train station, but "gare" is also beware...the first fits more to Cyan's story though.

I never thought that Terra looked like much of a Branford, but I guess that's her mother's last name (I'm guessing it's not Maduin's).

But, yeah.... all the last names are cool. However, I'm guessing they put more allusions in the first names. Check it out

Terra - From the earth, saves the earth.
Locke - John Locke, philosopher that argued for the innate goodness in humans' general will
Leo - Leon Trotsky? a thread started by GM Harvey
Cyan - a shade of blue common in the sky

yadda yadda yadda, I don't feel like researching any name origins right now. Maybe there are more allusions in the last names and I should just shut up anyway

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I like the names a lot. I especially like Locke Cole, Kefka Palazzo, and Setzer Gabbiani. Terra Branford is, to me, a nice refreshing "earthy" name, even if she wasn't named Terra. Sort of makes her stand out among the Garamondes, the Maguses, and the Arrownys. Although I theorize that Magus isn't actually Strago's real last name, but a reflection of his profession, in much the way that last names were originally formed. Y'know, like Smith, Carter, Miller, and Wainwright.

I have the version of FFVI with the less common names, such as Tina, Lock, Mash, Cayenne, Stragus, and Cefca. I've got to say I prefer the more commonly accepted ones. Terra sounds much nicer than Tina, and I refuse to have anybody in my party whose name is "Mash". Although from what I understand, it's supposed to be Matthew, which I like much better. I have a good friend named Matthew.

Names...
What would RPGs be without names for their charachters?
Blah blah blah... (sentimental b******t...)

Let's cut to the chase:
Cyan's last name, as my minor knowledge of Balzac's ancestors' language says, means "Cautious of the world". Wich would mean he's kind of the "Stay home and defend it" person. Which fits him, methinks.

Clyde Arrowny:

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for those of you have a hard time remembering these things: That's Shadow's real name

His first name keeps reminding me of Lobo (Hey, Clyde! You're fragged Clyde! etc.) and I have to say, his last name fits into how he's in battle - a quick, one-shot killer. (at least in my party)

Celes Chere: I always thought of her name being something like "Sheer" as in "pure". That's like her.

Oh yeah, the Figaro Brother's second names (Roni and Rene) always remind me of "Allo, allo" (a british comedy series about an occupied french town during WWII).
The main charachter's name was Renee, and there was this british agent that kept calling him "Roni". I thought once, that was the point.

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Oh yeah, the Figaro Brother's second names (Roni and Rene) always remind me of "Allo, allo" (a british comedy series about an occupied french town during WWII).
The main charachter's name was Renee, and there was this british agent that kept calling him "Roni". I thought once, that was the point.

Might the Figaro twins' middle names be an obscure reference to this? Does anyone else know anything of this? It seems pretty interesting.

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well, no,to be honest i see no real connection, but i KNEW Ghestal remind me of someone... its Herr Flick!

I think its just to enhance the frenchness of the game really. Two character names thus far have been speculated to have french roots.



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I think its just to enhance the frenchness of the game really. Two character names thus far have been speculated to have french roots.

I wonder why you say that, because I've always thought that Gestahl sounded German.

Kefka sounds like Kafka (who himself was German) but his last name seems Italian, as do the Figaro twins and Setzer. Locke Cole and Leo Christophe sound English, Cyan Garamonde (although he looks Asian) and Celes Chere sound French. Terra Branford and the Arrownys sound...American (!).

That's what I got out of it, in terms of nationalities.

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You guys might think I'm nuts, but Figaro always was thought upon by me to be like an opera (not the one in the game):

FIGARO! FIGARO, FIGARO, FIGARO!

Tee hee...

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well, Herr Flick was a gestapo agent and Ghestal remind me of himso i suppose we're both right in a roundabout way. But let me rephrase that to 'earthling'...

too generic? ok, how about mainly european?

Branford sounds american, use. Arrowny too. the rest work.

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And as for CLyde Arrowny, we all know where that came from... Its a bonnie wee river! nah its just Bonnie and Clyde. but no one riddles him with bullets.

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"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here..."
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Locke - John Locke, philosopher that argued for the innate goodness in humans' general will.

Actually, isn't Locke a pun or something on the word "lock"? In Japan, Locke's name is Lock Cole as far as I know. And Locke is a thief, and a thief picks locks...

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hmm, yeah... the theif gets in either by
A)- picking the Locke
- burnignt he door down (charcole)
C)- down the chimney (cole=coal)
d) in the window (a big 'ole or unlatchin the locke!)

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Quote (Figaro @ 15th December 2003 19:05)

My bad. OK, then, what does you peoples THINK of their last nam s? Are hey cool? Are they suck(? Are they useless? I'm jus nosey, I guess.

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I have the version of FFVI with the less common names, such as Tina, Lock, Mash, Cayenne, Stragus, and Cefca. I've got to say I prefer the more commonly accepted ones. Terra sounds much nicer than Tina, and I refuse to have anybody in my party whose name is "Mash". Although from what I understand, it's supposed to be Matthew, which I like much better. I have a good friend named Matthew.

I'm curious. Where did you hear Sabin's Japanese name was Matthew? I've always heard it was Mash...

But when you think about it, it makes sense. Why would anyone, much less a king, name their child Mash?

Forgive me for asking, but my real name is Matthew, so if a Final Fantasy VI character has the same name I do, I would be honored...

Man, I wish I could read Japanese.

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Man, I wish I could read Japanese.

Here, here.

I like Sabin better than Mash, I think...

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Well, the Japanese spelling of the name "Matthew" is "Mashyuu", since the "th" sound doesn't exist in Japanese pronunciation. I seem to recall seeing a website somewhere that showed the katakana of the characters' names, and that was how I learned that Mash was actually Mashyuu. So I don't know why they changed it from "Mashyuu" to "Mash"; I guess it was due to space constraints or something like that, or maybe they didn't want the name to look too Japanese. I have no idea. Either way, Matthew Rene Figaro is a nice name, isn't it?

That's just....awesome. So Sabin's REAL name is actually Matthew...

And I agree, Matthew Rene Figaro sounds more elegant and Regal than Mash or Sabin would anyday.

I suppose I understand why Square changed his name, since Matthew is 7 spaces and the rename option would only allow 6 letters, and Mash does sound downright awful.

Still, it's nice to know the truth.

This post has been edited by West Side Tony on 10th January 2004 20:04

I've been a big fan of FFVI since it was FFIII back in the SNES days, I've played it countless times and done pretty much everything short of actually using Gau...

But how the devil did someone find out Kefka's last name? Maybe it was in the FFIII manual and I've just forgotten, but jeez...

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I actually like Sabin as opposed to Mash (ICK) or Matthew. It sounds more exotic or something, less common, which all fits into a fantasy game. Although, I could certainly see an Edgar having a Matthew for a brother. And these guys kinda run the name gamut: Edgar/Matthew (English), Roni/Renee (sounds French to me), and Figaro (Italian). But, as they're royalty, I suppose they can afford such broad-reaching names.

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on the Locke front, I've done a small amount of research... there was a series of OAV's a while back, "Locke and Leon". It was about a mercenary named Locke (he was an esper, the title derived from "ESP" because he had AWESOME MENTAL POWERSSSS) So maybe the name Locke and the title esper was some kind of joint homage...

oh, and I haven't researched the dudes who worked on FFVI and L&L so maybe it was the director or someone with a crazy little in-joke.

just thought I may as well say.

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on the Locke front, I've done a small amount of research... there was a series of OAV's a while back, "Locke and Leon".  It was about a mercenary named Locke (he was an esper, the title derived from "ESP" because he had AWESOME MENTAL POWERSSSS) So maybe the name Locke and the title esper was some kind of joint homage...

oh, and I haven't researched the dudes who worked on FFVI and L&L so maybe it was the director or someone with a crazy little in-joke.

just thought I may as well say.

Actually, I thought Esper was derived from another language, because I learned in French several years ago that the verb "esperer" means "to hope or wish."

That comes from the Latin "sperare" (which means the same thing) and I've seen it mentioned with "spiritus" (spirit).

It's been established that some of the names of FFVI characters are similar to or have origins in French, so that would make sense as well.



This post has been edited by AndrewTS on 11th January 2004 23:38

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It's been established that some of the names of FFVI characters are similar to or have origins in French, so that would make sense as well.

Just one question: why French? I mean, Japanese made this game, so why would they have a totally different culture's type of names in their game? (besides the fact that French names sound good for this type of game)

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Quote (Figaro @ 11th January 2004 20:43)

Just one question: why French? I mean, Japanese made this game, so why would they have a totally different culture's type of names in their game? (besides the fact that French names sound good for this type of game)

I think you answered your own question. French is a highly-admired Romance language.

Plus, where's the "fantasy" in trying to recreate something you're so familiar with? Especially a highly-homogized, collectivist society?

Like that bank owner on Married...with Children thought to himself as Jefferson and Marcy attempted to make him feel "at home."

"It's like Gilligan finally getting off the island and being offered a coconut."

This post has been edited by AndrewTS on 12th January 2004 02:46