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No, Really, i think that the old japanese game designers were quite crazy lunatics, and at the same time quite fond of american culture, so they purposely designed a character like GoGo that would appear mysterious and might have connections to one or more characters throughout the game, depending on how you percieve it. Whereas really it was all just a plot to get us to go MAD and crazy over this game MORESO than we already are and play for zillions of hours MORE than we we already have, not to mention sitting on forums posting opinions on the story and if its true.....

Personally i think i would find it quite entertaining and laughable if i were someone who made the game all of 10 years ago or whatever and to this day could still find people arguing over long lost charactesr, secrets and rumors.

P.S. anyways im not quite the level of FF3/6 fantatic yet but i just recently realized you can equip a Genji Glove, and an Offering and equip two Thief Knives for some major STEALING action. Or use the technique for whatever two weapons you want, like suiting up an IMP character and using double IMP halberds for some MEAN damage. I just think its pretty cool i guess....

I think this guys research has put all the Adelai theories to bed.

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P.S. anyways im not quite the level of FF3/6 fantatic yet but i just recently realized you can equip a Genji Glove, and an Offering and equip two Thief Knives for some major STEALING action.

You're gonna want to read the Glitches and Bugs guide before you touch that ThiefKnife combo. In theory, it sounds nice, but against groups, well....

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[WHAT I THINK, Adlai Stevenson]

I'm siding with West Side Tony on this one, unfortunately. I recently played through the FF6 PSOne version the whole way through, and that I tried the only six event triggers that I could possibly think of to get this Gogo+Setzer hidden scene to show up, and yet to no avail . 1) getting Setzer to go with my party to meet Gogo inside of the ZoneEater (I sure can't get Setzer to go by himself, because of the strong enemies, and that I didn't think of running from them at the time), 2) taking Setzer and Gogo to Daryl's tomb (much simpler fighting through those enemies), 3) taking Setzer and Gogo to that hill on Solitary Island, 4) sleeping at the Inn in Kohlingen (where that we first meet Setzer in the WoR), 5) flying the Falcon airship around with Setzer and Gogo, and 6) talking to the thief guy in front of the Inn in Thamasa after grabbing the GrandTrain lore spell from Hidon (since that that guy talks generally about the Triangle Island). Can anyone else think of any other possible event triggers in the game for this hidden Gogo+Setzer scene, huh, besides what Snoopyboy had said near the bottom on that recent Gogo/Adlai Stevenson rumor debunked post about that other event trigger in the game ? >Danny<

This post has been edited by Daniel on 26th September 2010 07:22

I never thought for a second that Gogo was anyone but...well...Gogo! Just a unique character to add to the fun of the game, and nothing more. Maybe I don't read into stuff as much as I could, but nothing ever really seemed to point to him/her being anyone else, so I never bothered speculating about it...

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Oh, yeah...and what really baffles me is this...why would someone put only Gogo and Setzer in their party to start with to find this trick by accident? Of all the combinations I would choose (assuming I wanted only two people in my group) it surely wouldn't be those two...but that's just me. If the conversation did take place, it probably goes something like this:

SCENE OPENS...

Gogo: "Hey, Setzer...why are we in this party all alone?"

Setzer: "Well, Gogo, because everyone else got KO'ed, and we don't have any more Fenix Down. it's up to us to go buy some."

Gogo: "Smooth. Hey...this walking is getting to me. Want to go sit on that bluff and take a quickie break?"

Setzer: "Yeah, sure. Maybe we can play some cards...if you promise to quit copying all my moves when we play. That REALLY annoys me!"

Gogo: "It's a deal. Hey, now might be a good time to tell you this. I'm really your lost love, Daryl!"

Setzer: "What?? Um...actually, a good time to tell me that would have been YEARS ago before I threw myself into brooding and gambling...not to mention months of therapy!"

Gogo: "Oh, yeah...sorry about that. But now you know, so everything is happy, right?"

Setzer: "Um...yeah, I guess. Well, I guess we can get back together then..."

Gogo: "Um...oh, yeah...there's another thing I forgot tell you besides that I'm still alive...I'm in love with Sabin now instead of you. He's just so...manly...and his hair looks a lot better than yours. We can still be friends, though, right?"

Setzer: "What?? Well, I'm not giving you your airship back! Forget it!"

END OF SCENE...

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Please don't double post. -R51

This post has been edited by Rangers51 on 4th March 2004 19:09

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You know me, you just wish you didn't...

"Uwee hee hee! Don't tease the octopus, kids!" -Ultros-

"Don't let the smooth taste fool you..."

Well, here are a couple of other theories.
1) Something from the GameFAQs board: Gogo is a Yard Sale Golem - an animated collection of rags, junk, and a helmet that somehow learned to mimic people. Maybe it's that type of golem's inherent skill?
2) IIRC Gogo from FFV looked distinctly feminine. This one on the other hand doesn't, so I would say they're not connected except through the design process.
3) Maybe Gogo is an attempted clone of Kefka?
4) Maybe Gogo is Gestahl?

Too many theories. Gogo is Gogo.

I would just really love to hear where some of these theories come from...not to poke fun at them, just for curiosity sake...I mean, something had to trigger people to think of them, right? I must be missing a lot in the game, because relying on the evidence I've seen, I can't even begin to fathom how some of those theories were formulated...I think he's just Gogo too...just as Umaro is just Umaro (unless other theories prevail!).

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"Uwee hee hee! Don't tease the octopus, kids!" -Ultros-

"Don't let the smooth taste fool you..."

I believe there are other threads about Gogo's origin in these forums, no? Use those. This is more specific than that.

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Well, here are a couple of other theories.
1) Something from the GameFAQs board: Gogo is a Yard Sale Golem - an animated collection of rags, junk, and a helmet that somehow learned to mimic people. Maybe it's that type of golem's inherent skill?
2) IIRC Gogo from FFV looked distinctly feminine. This one on the other hand doesn't, so I would say they're not connected except through the design process.
3) Maybe Gogo is an attempted clone of Kefka?
4) Maybe Gogo is Gestahl?

Too many theories. Gogo is Gogo.

Theres a picture of FFV Gogo at the bottom of my site (as well as many other Gogo pictures from FFVI). You'll see right away that they don't look at all similar.

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I havent heared the attempted Kefka Clone one...its pretty nice. As for Gogo's true identity i think we should stop looking at it the was it is now and go back to the begining. That is at least as early as V possibly even before hand and look their because the search her is turning up nothing...

Also for all you Gogo lovers or haters of people who like Shadow or Locke check this out!

http://www.flashplayer.com/animation/fffduo.html The whole serise is good but this one features Gogo!

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well the way i think of the subject is use shadow as an example, if ur just playing the game for playing the game you don't think of sleeping in inns and stuff to get the cutscenes unless someone tells you that they're there. It's the same for Gogo, there probably is a cutscene (if not in the original, then possibly in anthologies) and having the truth to who gogo really is would be a relief... but no one (that i've heard of) has killed themselves because they didn't know

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I edited together your double post. Like you should do from now on, please. -R51

This post has been edited by Rangers51 on 18th March 2004 11:05

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I've read some of the theories for why folks think that Gogo is Daryl, and frankly, they don't convince me. The thing about Gogo standing on Daryl and Setzer's cliff at the end isn't convincing...Square recycles terrain on their games all the time, so why not here? Also, I saw someone mention the airship was found after the wreck, but never Daryl's body. Where does it say that in the game?? In the tomb itself, at the ornate tombstone where you fight the boss, it says "Daryl lies here" or whatever...why would it say that if her body had never been found?

Anyway, enough of that...I'm not denying such a scene as this may exist, but let's face it...by this point, with players exploring the game for years and years, trying new things, and the high volume of FAQs and cheats out there, surely by now someone would have uncovered this at least once if it existed. I'm not saying it's an absolute certainty, but it seems like it would make sense.

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"Don't let the smooth taste fool you..."

Quote (Figaro @ 23rd December 2003 23:42)

I have another question: why would Japanese writers include Star Wars references (the starting two characters were, in Japan, translated literally to Biggs and Wedge, not Vicks and Wedge)and the Three Stooges (in Cyan's dream). Please, enlighten me as to why Japanese find American culture so... fascinating.

Hmmm... new thread coming on...

Sorry to be nitpicky, but the Stooges weren't even called Larry, Moe, and Curly in the Japanese game, IIRC. I don't remember what their names were exactly but they were all different words for "sleep."

I used to believe the whole Gogo = Daryl thing, but now...I'm not so sure any more. Doesn't mean I think she's dead, though. That weird rumor about her being a mermaid is beginning to look good...

Yeah, I know the avatar contradicts what I just said about not believing the rumor. I'm only using it until I find a Daryl sprite.

EDIT- *sees the rule about no custom avatars* Ok, I guess I *am* stuck using the Gogo sprite.

This post has been edited by Daryl Gabbiani on 20th March 2004 14:40

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Figaro, the three stooges (Larry, Curly and Moe) had a huge impact on american entertainment. The translators most likely found it clever to name them as "the boys". Theres always a bit of history in Final Fantasy.

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I hate to disappoint you guys but I found the Gogo+Setzer scene quite easily. I'm going to tell you what it is. The truth is, that most of you have seen it. After you beat Kefka, watch the ending, until Gogo's scene comes a long. Note: You must have Gogo in one of your 3 parties. This scene is very short. Setzer says "Gogo press that button at the same time as Celes does". That's the scene. I bet that was the scene that the Squaresoft guys meant, do you agree?

I don't see how you can relate "The answer to his question is in the game" to that scene, because it doesn't explain anything or answer any question, as far as I can see.

Um...that scene happens even if you don't take Gogo with you in one of your parties, as far as I could tell. If that's the scene everyone is making a huge fuss over, that's pretty sad. I don't think that's the one that's been so widely discussed, because anyone who's found Gogo and won the game would have seen that already by now.

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You know me, you just wish you didn't...

"Uwee hee hee! Don't tease the octopus, kids!" -Ultros-

"Don't let the smooth taste fool you..."

I don't see why Gogo couldn't be Daryll. I don't see why Gogo has to. Why don't we just say it's each person's personal decision and leave it a mystery. But Leo is definately Kefka. Didn't see that coming did you?!?!

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No, I certainly didn't, and might I just say you are crazy! Kefka is Kefka, so he can't also be Leo, unless...

Here's a theory...Kefka, Leo, AND Celes are all the same person...cloned from a single cell and infused with magic, Celes just turned out to be a female. The problem was that Gestahl left the petri dish with Kefka's embryo sitting out on the counter too long when it was supposed to be refrigerated, and it got kind of rotten. The other two were okay, though, and they went on to be decent human beings. General Leo was kind of rebellious as a child, and wouldn't eat his vegetables or allow a magic infusion, so he grew up to be an ordinary human General. We all know the story on the other two...

So there...that explains it...Kefka really IS General Leo...and you thought you'd have to stretch things to find the explanation behind that.

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"Don't let the smooth taste fool you..."

Quote (Rangers51 @ 5th March 2004 14:20)

I believe there are other threads about Gogo's origin in these forums, no? Use those. This is more specific than that.

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Hey..

i know alot about this game i devoted many hours of it, searched online for anything i missed, went thru all the rumors...
If gogo is not daryl, then Gogo is just a secret character with no secret identity.

The one and only rumor i have not yet checked in final fantasy 3/6 is by getting all the items, lores rages ect... that gogo and setzer speak on the airship about something, if this has been confirmed by anyone please let me know

Well, without a cheating device, you can't get all the Rages or the items....so I think that rumor has to be false....why would Square put in a scene to reward cheaters? And also, there's no game script that would even slightly resemble this scene...therefore, I think it's false.

I hope this isn't too off-topic, as it doesn't really have to do with Gogo, although it does have something to do with Daryl and Setzer. There's a hidden Setzer scene that I stumbled upon by complete accident, which happens after the Banquet at Vector, if you return to the Blackjack and wander into the Engine Room.

Possible spoilers: highlight to view

In the scene, Setzer and Cid are trying to repair the grounded Blackjack. Cid insists that he can make it more powerful than it is, which enfuriates Setzer who commands him not to touch anything and kicks him off the ship. Terra asks about Setzer's attachment to the Airship and he talks, albeit briefly about Daryl, and gets a bit sad. The scene then ends.

As for Gogo being Daryl, I think it's a bit absurd since I doubt Gogo is anything other than a hommage to the same character from Final Fantasy V. The backgrounds in the Daryl areas were just fillers, and likely, the "crash site" in a "distant land" might not be anything; she probably wrecked into mountains.

However, I do think the funny part is that Daryl's Tomb doesn't exist in the World of Balance, only the World of Ruin.

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However, I do think the funny part is that Daryl's Tomb doesn't exist in the World of Balance, only the World of Ruin.

my belief of this is that setzer created the tomb during the year that celes is KO'd... i know there are a thousand differant things to prove this wrong but it's just easier to think of it this way

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I also find the tomb to be funny because it's next to Kohlingen. Inside Kohlingen, sleeps Rachel. It seems more like the K-Town is the place to bury your dead girlfriends.

I wonder if Nicole Simpson's buried there? Bad joke, I know.

Daryl's tomb was probably buried, and then unearthed when the world shifted.

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That's make sense! This would explain why it was crumbled and filled with undeads.

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