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I just thought of this, and I want to see what you think of it. Might the General Leo character have been partially based on Leo Trotsky (I think he's also known as Leon Trotsky)?

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Both Leo and Kefka are subordinates of Gestahl, and Kefka kills Leo. Both Trotsky and Stalin are subordinates (and hand-picked successors) of Lenin, and Stalin gets Trotsky assassinated after coming to power.

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It is Leon Trotsky, and General Leo is not based on him. Trotsky was Joseph Stalin's political opponant.

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I think that was a time when Russia was having a whole lot of problems. They killed off their opponents in order to win votes. Stalin become more paranoid when he became in charge of the Soviet Union, aka Russia. He killed anyone he thought that was trying to take him away from power.

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I really don't see the connection. It's just your typical case of two subordinates fighting for power, one's evil, one's good. And plus, Trotsky was a Social-Marxist, General Leo is clearly a man of Democracy. (Or maybe a Capitalist Sympathizer?)

It's been awhile since I've played. Mind telling me where it shows Leo 'is clearly a man of Democracy.'? Just wondering, cause I don't remember anything he did that made his political views that clear cut.

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I'm simply being humorly out there Narratorway. I'm not stating what exactly he was, I'm just trying to make an opinionated joke.

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It's been awhile since I've played. Mind telling me where it shows Leo 'is clearly a man of Democracy.'? Just wondering, cause I don't remember anything he did that made his political views that clear cut.

no evidence? ah, you must not be from where i am...

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in the Uk version, he yells 'Vote Conservative!' then dies...killed not by Kefka but by Tony Blair.

Arlight, there may be a FEW lies there, but hey...

still, nice try...but theres no connection.



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I think GM Harvey brings up a valid point. The similarity is close in plot and in the name Leo/Leon. If memory seves me right, then Trotsky was a more sensible member of the same socialist party, who the power crazed Stalin defeated. The Stalin/Kefka comparison is even better. Stalin was laughing and having a good time while sentencing random members of his own government to death in a conference, and he did this to promote fear, just like Kefka's Light of Judgement.

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I think GM Harvey brings up a valid point. The similarity is close in plot and in the name Leo/Leon. If memory seves me right, then Trotsky was a more sensible member of the same socialist party, who the power crazed Stalin defeated. The Stalin/Kefka comparison is even better. Stalin was laughing and having a good time while sentencing random members of his own government to death in a conference, and he did this to promote fear, just like Kefka's Light of Judgement.

That's how "Animal Farm" paints it, but that's not historical fact. Trotsky was every bit as fanatical as Stalin. He just wanted a slower change.

And he lost.

And I really don't think that Leo's name is a reference to the Bolsheviks. If you want a meaning, I'd look to astrology, first.

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Quote (Narratorway @ 1st December 2003 17:31)

It's been awhile since I've played.  Mind telling me where it shows Leo 'is clearly a man of Democracy.'?  Just wondering, cause I don't remember anything he did that made his political views that clear cut.

no evidence? ah, you must not be from where i am...

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in the Uk version, he yells 'Vote Conservative!' then dies...killed not by Kefka but by Tony Blair.

Arlight, there may be a FEW lies there, but hey...

still, nice try...but theres no connection.

Where the heck did THAT come from?!?! It seems really freaky...it's just a rumor, right?

Also, I remember reading that Trotsky actually had a more sensible plan for government than Stalin, and would have make the Soviet Union a better place had it not been for Stalin getting him killed. Additionally, I think Stalin either personally killed Trotsky or ordered others to have him dead. If anyone can come up with a reliable source that either verifies or disproves this information, that would be very helpful.

All of this makes me start to think...might FFVI be an allegory/symbolic story of some kind?

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