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HAHAHA
figaro on the brain

mog and umaro both come from narshe of course.

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"That Light has bestowed upon me the greatest black magic!"

Okay, fine. It's The Ancient's turn.

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I prefer answering. It's up for grabs.

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"That Light has bestowed upon me the greatest black magic!"

Okay, how about this one:

SHADOW attacks! With the Genji Glove, he wields the Striker in the Right Hand and the Assassin in the Left Hand. Although the
Striker has a Battle Power of 190 and the
Assassin has a Battle Power of 106,

the Assassin manages to do more damage then the Striker. No critical hits were done, and the Striker (should it confuse people) did not instantly kill the target.

How is this possible?

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Neither were blocked, by the way. And both were directed at the same target, were you thinking of Muddle or the Offering

This post has been edited by Djibriel on 6th May 2004 20:22

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I'm assuming you're going to count this wrong, but may as well give it anyway for the benefits of clarification:

The Striker didn't dispatch the enemy, but the Assassin did. Technically, you haven't yet discounted that possibility, and the Assassin is listed as random-dispatch on this very site.

I'm a fool. Xanadu was right by pointing out that the Assassin did NOT dispatch the enemy either. Technically I could fight that answer by saying that the I was talking about damage, but I foresaw that many would think in that direction.

The random dispatching, in fact, has nothing to do with it at all, on either the Striker or the Assassin.

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Maybe... maybe (MAYBE) that you are trying to tell us that the Striker overflowed the counter (much much vigor (at least 128 + bonuses) and lvl 99) and did little damage compared to Assassin that didn't overflowed.

* When the counter is overflowed, damage = damage - 65535. If I have the right answer, I let the question to anybody *

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«À l'aventure compagnons, je suis parti vers l'horizon! J'aurais mieux fait de rester au lit, ce donjon, il est pourri!» - Pen of Chaos

Quote (Djibriel @ 6th May 2004 14:58)

Okay, how about this one:

SHADOW attacks! With the Genji Glove, he wields the Striker in the Right Hand and the Assassin in the Left Hand. Although the
Striker has a Battle Power of 190 and the
Assassin has a Battle Power of 106,

the Assassin manages to do more damage then the Striker. No critical hits were done, and the Striker (should it confuse people) did not instantly kill the target.

How is this possible?

Edit

Neither were blocked, by the way. And both were directed at the same target, were you thinking of Muddle or the Offering

The Striker missed and the Assassin didn't?

Although I haven't tested it, I'm pretty sure that any physical attach (that's not-barrier-piercing anyway) is too weak to inflict that kind of damage. I wasn't looking for that one.

Neither were blocked means that neither missed. "Blocked" was technically a better word since it would go trough Magic Block and not trough Evade...ah, whatever. I'm rambling. The answer is still out there.

Hint: I specifically did NOT use the word "Fight" as in the command.

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Quote (Djibriel @ 7th May 2004 00:20)

Although I haven't tested it, I'm pretty sure that any physical attach (that's not-barrier-piercing anyway) is too weak to inflict that kind of damage. I wasn't looking for that one.

Neither were blocked means that neither missed. "Blocked" was technically a better word since it would go trough Magic Block and not trough Evade...ah, whatever. I'm rambling. The answer is still out there.

Hint: I specifically did NOT use the word "Fight" as in the command.

Dunno... I'm guessing even though you had a Assassin equip, you won another one by wagering a Valiant Knife in Colosseum to win a second, and the Assasin did more damage cause it was thrown?

*shrug*

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"And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped” -Sir Bedevere the Wise

Phew! Luckily I inserted this quote later on, or I wouldn't have had any defences against that answer:

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Neither were blocked, by the way. And both were directed at the same target, were you thinking of Muddle or the Offering

Both are directed against the same target, which is not possible with the Throw command. Nice try, though!

This post has been edited by Djibriel on 7th May 2004 09:31

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Something being blocked is not the same as something missing.

Yes, it is. Both physical and magical attacks either hit or miss working with Magic Block. You could differate when there's a status protection working, but that's not the case right now.
When you say 'blocked', you're probably thinking about a raised shield. Well, obviously monsters don't raise shields to "block" attacks and although a normal "miss" message will remind you of Evading, it's technically blocking.

Aaaanyway, still no right answer. Think, people. I came up with an alternate in the train today, so there are at least two answer possible.

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Make that three!

This post has been edited by Djibriel on 7th May 2004 19:39

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Quote (Djibriel @ 7th May 2004 14:39)

Yes, it is. Both physical and magical attacks either hit or miss working with Magic Block. You could differate when there's a status protection working, but that's not the case right now.
When you say 'blocked', you're probably thinking about a raised shield. Well, obviously monsters don't raise shields to "block" attacks and although a normal "miss" message will remind you of Evading, it's technically blocking.

Aaaanyway, still no right answer. Think, people. I came up with an alternate in the train today, so there are at least two answer possible.

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Make that three!

No. You're just adding stipulations after the fact.

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No. You're just adding stipulations after the fact.

Main Entry: stip·u·late
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -lat·ed; -lat·ing
Etymology: Latin stipulatus, past participle of stipulari to demand some term in an agreement
intransitive senses
1 : to make an agreement or covenant to do or forbear something : CONTRACT
2 : to demand an express term in an agreement -- used with for
transitive senses
1 : to specify as a condition or requirement of an agreement or offer
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Learned a new word! My English is growing by the day.

If you're referring to the Magic Block mess, I'm making nothing up. It's a normally used term. But at any rate, I was pointing in the direction on whatever could cause the 'miss' image to appear when I was talking about blocking. In my opinion I've covered it both/all and although I can understand Oxmodiar's point, I won't accept his answer as the right one.

But I'm not entirely undemocratic. If there are people out there who agree that I was definately foggy on the subject, let them speak now or hold their tongue forever.

This post has been edited by Djibriel on 7th May 2004 22:13

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It's fine by me that my answer was not the right one.. In fact, I wo1ld rather have been wrong, because my question would almost be guaranteed to be rediculous.. But being told my answer was wrong because blocking and missing are the same thing, well that'" a different story (even though I'm well aware that, in gam mechanics, they're almost essentially the same, as both a (iss and a block can be interpre`ed the same way).

Wow, ramble.

C'mon, people! Only a few hours left! The clock is ticking. Time is of the essence!

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Uh, let me see.

I was playing yesterday and I had Celes (with Falchion and Drainer,in left and right hand, respectively) and I had her Jump on a Tentacle, and she would always attack with the Drainer, althought that would usually be second if she used 'Fight'

So, since your hypothetical Shadow has an extra Relic slot, I'll say he used the 'Jump' command. I'm not even sure if this qualifies, but he did attack a single target, neither skill really missed/were blocked since you can only attack once with Jump, and the Assassin is in the right hand, so it's the one that attacks.

I noticed that you mentioned the right/left hand before, so I thought that might have some sort of key hidden in it, but then again, I haven't even completed the game yet, so I don't know all of the stuff you guys do.

Ironically, I'd just gotten a Striker yesterday and haven't used it. =/

This post has been edited by Shotgunnova on 9th May 2004 21:19

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Shotgunnova got it!

This was the initial one I was looking for. The alternate solutions would include:

Having Shadow ready to use Fight while another member summoned Palidor. Shadow would use Jump with the Assassin and inmediatly toss out his normal Fight command. This one I had prepared for people who would refuse to accept the initial answer because they could claim that the Striker was never aimed in the first place (which I never explicitaly said, ofcourse). Besides, even though Shotgunnova claims that it was always the Drainer in the left hand that was used, the weapon used to inflict damage is random between the two. Sais this site, anyway, and I have no reason to doubt it.

Very good thinking, Shotgunnova. I take mine hat of to thee...and I present upon thee the possibility to post your question.

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I just had a look at it, and it seems that even though the game "prefers" some weapon graphics above others, the game still randomly chooses between both weapons. I tested this with Relm, Heal Rod, Imp Halbard. Even when the Imp Halbard was showing, the enemy was healed. Interesting...

This post has been edited by Djibriel on 9th May 2004 21:44

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Haha, don't rack that up for smart, deductive thinking; it was a meer fluke. ^__^ 'Sides, I think I messed up my left-right coordination above, but I suppose it's all good.

[Q] - What attack does Chadranook (The Demon in Owzer's painting)use to inflict 'Seizure' status on all party members? (Assuming you have no Ribbons)

This is probably pretty easy, but remember, I just got to the World of Ruin yesterday, and I can't think of any uber-hard questions like I could if I had finished the game and could ask questions out of retrospect.

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It's gonna be a glorious day
I feel my luck can change

alright i've looked it up and the only attack that doesn't have a decription is "lullaby" therefor that is my answer (and the other attacks' description says nothing about seizure)

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~ A Hero Is Someone Who Stands When Their Legs Are Gone~

It's not Lullaby. Lullaby casts sleep on all party members.

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It's gonna be a glorious day
I feel my luck can change

If you're talking about Phantasm, that technically isn't true. Phantasm causes another status ,very similar to Seizure...

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Food is like magic in my ears. - Djibriel
Ogopogo lives.

Phantasm is the one I was thinking of. During the battle, I looked at the diagnosis on my characters and three of them had Seizure. They only got it after Phantasm too, and I have know of no other status that functions the same as Seizure ('sides Poison, but ya know...)

Your turn either way. Good job.

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It's gonna be a glorious day
I feel my luck can change

Phantasm sets the status ailment HP Leak, which is exactly like Seizure in every way except for the fact it's not Seizure and can neither be removed (unless the affected receives Death/Stone/Zombie and is brought back) or protected againt be a Ribbon or anything else.



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Ahh, there is a difference; small, but a difference nonetheless. I guess it's kind of along the lines of Poison/Venom in FF9. Anyhow, I was wrong, and it's your turn, Ogopopo.

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Ok, first a standard disclaimer:
I haven't read all 25 pages of this thread, so if this question has come up before, let someone else answer it:

And here's my question (not too hard really):
Not that it's something you'd want to do, but....
Besides getting all your characters killed/petrified/zombied in battle, name 3 other ways to get a "game over" (there may be multiple answers).

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Food is like magic in my ears. - Djibriel
Ogopogo lives.

Uh...

1) Not getting to Ultros in time alotted (Opera House)
2) Not escaping from the Floating Continent
3) Not saving that kid from the burning house in Tzen (WoD)

Does that work?

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It's gonna be a glorious day
I feel my luck can change

Yes, that works.
Other correct answers include:
1) Letting Banon get killed on the Lete river
2) Getting crushed by the falling ceiling in the ZoneEater's belly dungeon

It's Shotgunnova's question.

This post has been edited by Ogopogo on 13th May 2004 07:10

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Food is like magic in my ears. - Djibriel
Ogopogo lives.

Uh....

In the World of Balance, in the man's house who aspires to build a Colosseum, you can find a ________ in a barrel.

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It's gonna be a glorious day
I feel my luck can change