Posted: 5th January 2004 21:12
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Speaking only about characters for which one is _forced_ to use them:
Most used is Locke. Forced to use on 3 occasions: Arvis' house sent into mines, 3 party mines battle and Locke scenario (which I think is definitely the longest of any single segment in the game, even when you know it by heart). Least used is Setzer. You are forced to use him for precisely 1 battle, the 2 Cranes during the escape from Vector. After you win this battle, you can immediately remove him from your party. Strago is not the answer because you are forced to use him for multiple battles during the Thamasa burning house scene. Relm is not the answer because you are forced to use her for the Ultros battle in the Esper Gathering Place plus during the walk out. I have no idea which 2 could be tied for least used. Setzer seems to be the hands down least used. |
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Posted: 5th January 2004 21:46
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I'll give it to Detah because he got the first part right and mentioned setzer. The least used character part was just a bad question I admit.
You are forced to use Locke the most which is pretty clear. You have to use him everytime you have to use Celes, plus there are many times where you have to use him without Celes. The least used character question probably should have been least three, or maybe shouldn't have been asked at all. -You aren't even required to get Mog, but you do use him for the cave battle. -You are only required to use Shadow when you walk to Thasma from the beach. -You are only required to use Setzer on the airship battle. This post has been edited by 1stclass on 5th January 2004 21:46 |
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Posted: 5th January 2004 21:51
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Pardon me, but isn't general Leo the one you use are forced to use the least (only for one battle, in Thamasa). Or perhaps you only count main characters.
If so, I say (even though the question is already over): Most used: Locke Least used: 1. Mog/Shadow/Setzer 2. Leo This post has been edited by Shirrow on 5th January 2004 21:52 -------------------- People say I'm a slow learner, but I type fast! |
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Posted: 5th January 2004 22:12
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Even then Leo would be tied with Setzer for just one battle. Of course if we count all playable characters then you have to consider the ghosts on the train which you never are forced to use. I find it funny that if we were to count Vicks and Wedge they would be used more than Setzer and Shadow.
I think it is pretty clear though that just saying 'characters' implies the standard 14 characters. |
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Posted: 6th January 2004 15:33
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For the record, you get control of Leo in the middle of Thamasa. You then have to walk to Kefka to initiate the battle (walk+battle). With Setzer, you never have to walk with him in your party, it is just for the Cranes battle (battle only). Setzer is the least used character that you are 'forced' to use. Arguably, you do not even have to toggle to Mog's group in the 3 party fight in the Narshe Mines. So he is not forced on you.
Ok. I have a good one. *evil grin* This one is very precisely worded so read carefully. Which is the first character who can do 9999 dam in a single strike/casting (ie no Offering, Gem Box or Quick)? |
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Posted: 6th January 2004 19:01
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Ignore my last post!
Im not too sure what happened but I think the board crashed allowing me to only read the previous question. Here's my answer to Detah's question: Strago (with revenge) ? -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 6th January 2004 19:37
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If you level up Terra to level 99 right after whelk I think she will do about 7,700 damage to a repo man if she gets a critical hit so 9,999 is going to be "possible" well before strago. 9,999 might even be possible with a tek missile, but I don't know the stats on it. I will guess for my answer that Mog at level 99 during the 3 party cave battle can do 9,999 damage against a vomammoth with a critical hit since he has a mithril pike.
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Posted: 6th January 2004 19:40
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Well, I'm sure this is not right, but maybe Sabin's Bum Rush Blitz?
EDIT: No wait... Scratch my answer from the record pleez. I thought of this 'cause his BR was the first time MY game had 9999 damage, but I wasn't thinking of the question... Sorry ![]() This post has been edited by Figaro on 6th January 2004 19:44 -------------------- Wow. 1,000 posts. I miss you all now that I'm in boarding school! ;_; |
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Posted: 6th January 2004 20:06
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Quote (1stclass @ 6th January 2004 14:37) If you level up Terra to level 99 right after whelk I think she will do about 7,700 damage to a repo man if she gets a critical hit so 9,999 is going to be "possible" well before strago. 9,999 might even be possible with a tek missile, but I don't know the stats on it. I will guess for my answer that Mog at level 99 during the 3 party cave battle can do 9,999 damage against a vomammoth with a critical hit since he has a mithril pike. Terra is the correct answer and you were very close to the exact answer for why and how. I did all the calculations for everyone for their best physical attack and their best magical attack. Here is the full solution for this question. At L43 Terra automatically gains the Fire 3 spell. Then by L62 she can do well over 9999 potential (preDefense) damage to those who are weak versus Fire (Lobo, Vaporite, Vomammoth, WereRat). Lobo has the lowest Magic Defense, 120. So the earliest char who can do 9999 is Terra at L62 with Fire 3 versus Lobo. It may be necessary to try several times so the randomizer doesnt reduce your damage below 9999. 8459 is the max damage Terra can do with a CritHit with her pathetic MythrilKnife vs Vomammoth (75 DEF, lowest in area). So Fire3 is it. Mog cannot get to L99 during the 3 party Narshe battle. There are 7 possible encounters there. If you knocked out the other 3 characters and gave all the possible xp to Mog, he would barely break L14. Yes. This was a bit of a trick question. As Terra, Wedgy and Vicks were the only real candidates for the first character. I was hoping the Offering/Gem Box/Quick restriction would throw you off. Terra starts at L3 and the others are L1 and only have access to the base MagiTek attacks, which coincidentally are equivalent to the normal Black Spells Fire 2, Ice 2 and Bolt 2 btw. So even at L99 Wedge and Vicks couldn't do 9999 damage to Lobo. Pretty sad, eh? This is the first in a series of cool damage questions. The next phrasing is even cooler. 1st Class is up. Good job. Good thinking. This post has been edited by Detah on 6th January 2004 20:14 |
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Posted: 6th January 2004 20:19
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Ah, I forgot about her free spells doh. I think Mog and the moogles will all be level 99 if Terra is level 99, however.
Ok, here is my question: What and where is the first possible "fatal" attack or spell that your party can experience? This post has been edited by 1stclass on 6th January 2004 23:33 |
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Posted: 6th January 2004 23:46
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Without doing any research, my guess is going to be the Vargas battle, unless you count Mog's snare as a fatal attack experienced by your party.
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Posted: 6th January 2004 23:54
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Mmm, awful guess here but why the heck not:
The "battle" with Tritoch in the beginning where Biggs/Vicks and Wedge get wasted? I guess that could be considered a fatal attack. -------------------- Blood & Fire |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 00:13
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That would be X-fer?
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Posted: 7th January 2004 01:23
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i90east got the answer I was looking for. Vagras casts a version of condemned on Sabin. I wasn't counting the Tritotch thing and X-fer/snare can only be cast on your enemy.
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Posted: 7th January 2004 04:38
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Identify 13 mode 7 maps used in the game. I'll give away one answer as an example. I consider the whole WoB to be one mode 7 map. Don't let the word "map" deceive you, for there are mode 7 effects that are rather small in size. You could simply think of these as mode 7 "graphics" rather than "maps" if that makes more sense. The reason for identifying the graphic rather than the event is because there may be specific events where multiple mode 7 maps are used (not at the same time of course).
It took me an hour to think of 13. If you guys are as keen to detail as I am then this shouldn't take too long. You get bonus points if you identify some that I didn't think of. Just so you know the train thing in the Magitek factory does not use mode 7. 01.) WoB 02.) 03.) 04.) 05.) 06.) 07.) 08.) 09.) 10.) 11.) 12.) 13.) -------------------- FFXI (Siren server) Tauu the Windurstian Tarutaru! White Mage & Paladin |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 05:43
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Just some guesses to get the ball rolling:
2) WOR map 3) floating island (used when it rises up) 4) mtek armors walking on the snowfield to narshe 5) airship approach vector over the water 6) serpent trench |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 14:29
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Would the maps at the end of the game after you beat it count?
Also, is the spell H-Bomb one? This post has been edited by West Side Tony on 7th January 2004 14:40 |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 17:21
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Quote (1stclass) 5) airship approach vector over the water I didn't think of that one 1stclass. ![]() Quote (West Side Tony) Would the maps at the end of the game after you beat it count? Yes, but be more specific. Quote (West Side Tony) Also, is the spell H-Bomb one? Yes 01.) WoB 02.) WoR 03.) Floating Island 04.) Snowfield to Narshe (Intro) 05.) Airship approach Vector 06.) Serpent Trench 07.) H-Bomb 08.) 09.) 10.) 11.) 12.) 13.) ^^^Required^^^ 14.) 15.) ^^^Optional^^^ This post has been edited by i90east on 7th January 2004 17:26 -------------------- FFXI (Siren server) Tauu the Windurstian Tarutaru! White Mage & Paladin |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 19:27
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I think I might be clutching at straws here...
01.) WoB 02.) WoR 03.) Floating Island 04.) Snowfield to Narshe (Intro) 05.) Airship approach Vector 06.) Serpent Trench 07.) H-Bomb 08.) 'Overcast' Spell 09.) Ending:When falcon dissapears into the heavens 10.) Endng:The land you fly over 11.) Odin 12.) Raiden 13.) Ending: The Sea you fly over (including the boat) ^^^Required^^^ 14.) Ultima 15.) 'Rasp' Spell ^^^Optional^^^ -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 20:29
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Corrections:
14.) S.Cross 15.) Airship flying across the sky Possible spoilers: highlight to view The last thing you see at the end of the game But you got all of the required answers correct, so it's your turn Dirk Diggler. Great job btw. ![]() This post has been edited by i90east on 7th January 2004 20:35 -------------------- FFXI (Siren server) Tauu the Windurstian Tarutaru! White Mage & Paladin |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 22:04
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I thought I was being a bit lazy with Odin/Raiden but I was glad to see they counted as seperate!
Here is my question: In your party in WOB - who else can 'steal' items? Yes, it's another easy one folks...I couldn't really think of anything decent. -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 22:06
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Shadow, if you give him the Thief Knife, IIRC.
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Posted: 7th January 2004 22:15
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DOH!
Congratulatons Neal!, I think you might have broken the record for the quickest correct response to a trivia question ever!! Must be my lame questioneering! Ah well, as they say the early bird catches the worm. On to you Neal -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 22:16
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Name every time throughout the game where you are required to have a full party of four. Please list the characters in each instance.
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Posted: 7th January 2004 22:36
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1)The 3 party Narshe cave battle
I'm not going to list all the moogle names, but its Locke+3 moogles, Mog+3 moogles and 4 moogles. 2)When Sabin joins your party to until you reach the Returner Hideout Terra, Locke, Edgar Sabin 3)Lete Raft segment Terra, Edgar, Sabin, Banon 4)When Relm joins up Terra, Locke, Strago, Relm That's it I think? You would have to avoid getting anyone but Celes, Edgar and Setzer in the WOR to avoid having a party of 4 against Kefka, but its possible. This post has been edited by 1stclass on 7th January 2004 22:38 |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 23:45
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I just realized something, and maybe i'm wrong, but here goes:
Everyone mentioned Setzer only being required for the Crane battle when you flee Vector after the MagiTek Factory. Don't you need him while getting the Falcon from Daryl's Tomb in the WoR? -------------------- Blood & Fire |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 23:48
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Correct, but that question was only regarding who you had to use up to the end of the WOB.
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Posted: 7th January 2004 23:59
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Mmm, sorry. Guess I missed that. Sorry to waste your time.
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Posted: 8th January 2004 02:49
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Quote (1stclass @ 7th January 2004 16:36) You would have to avoid getting anyone but Celes, Edgar and Setzer in the WOR to avoid having a party of 4 against Kefka, but its possible. Actually, just put one character in each group. You don't have to have all of your characters go in or fill each party with four characters to raid the tower. -------------------- |
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Posted: 8th January 2004 05:07
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1stclass is right. If you get four characters in the world of ruin, you will fight with four characters at once against Kefka. Even if you only place one character in that battle order, it will place the rest directly after, giving you a party of four.
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