Posted: 25th January 2005 19:31
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Depends. With or without Esper-induced level boosts?
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Posted: 25th January 2005 19:35
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the very max
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Post #70841
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Posted: 26th January 2005 16:07
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esper max: 128
magus rod: +7 behemoth suit: +6 magus hat: +5 2x barrier ring: +4 (2x+2) total: 150. as far as I know, there is no shield that gives m. power bonus. as per usual, 'tis up for grabs. -------------------- "Fire and steel follow me through the lands you will burn hordes of hell in the deadly raging flames of revenge" Rhapsody - Flames of Revenge |
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Posted: 26th January 2005 16:10
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Wrong.
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Posted: 26th January 2005 16:59
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say what? me wrong? why? as a matter of fact, I do somehow recall him getting something in the realms of 158, but I can't remember why.
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Posted: 26th January 2005 17:00
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Wrong.
Wrong realm. |
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Posted: 27th January 2005 03:57
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How about 255, since it's the highest value allowable - at 256 it resets to 1. But that wouldn't be character specific, and since you asked for Strago's specifically... I'm probably wrong.
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Posted: 27th January 2005 04:17
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Quote (imperialstooge @ 26th January 2005 21:57) How about 255, since it's the highest value allowable - at 256 it resets to 1. 0, actually. Anyway, my guess is 155. -------------------- |
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Posted: 27th January 2005 04:23
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217? i dont know just a random guess.
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Posted: 27th January 2005 05:13
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Well 255 is the highest number it could be for most characters, but perhaps for some reason with Strago it can only be 254 due to an exception (255 being reserved for a special Lore-related value or something). That's my guess.
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Posted: 27th January 2005 13:52
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255, 155, 217, 254 are all wrong.
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Posted: 27th January 2005 16:18
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could you give us a clue? I am sure that the esper max is 128, if that helps. I am accurate in my previous statement about the armour, as those give the most magic block possible. what could I be missing?
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Posted: 27th January 2005 16:25
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Your Esper max (128) is correct. Your equipment is not correct.
You are also missing a simple, crucial piece of the total. Just to be clear, we are talking about Magic Power, the stat which determines how powerful your spells are, not Magic Points (aka AP) gained after killing critters, nor Magic Points, the source for casting spells, nor MagicBlock%, the defensive stat. |
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Posted: 27th January 2005 17:21
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merit award + genji glove + illumina/ragnarok (+7 for either) would work in conjunction with the other things I mentioned. didn't think of that. takes the total to 153. 'tis my final answer. otherwise I be stumped.
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Posted: 27th January 2005 18:20
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153 is not it. sorry.
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Posted: 27th January 2005 19:48
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wow you must be like the all time ff6 master i wil say 225
am i ryte:D ? |
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Posted: 27th January 2005 19:50
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225 is not correct. I doubt guessing is going to advance this thread.
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Posted: 27th January 2005 21:19
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If this will give anyone ideas, this setup is what led to 155:
Magus Rod Magus Rod Magus Hat BehemothSuit Genji Glove Barrier Ring -------------------- |
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Posted: 27th January 2005 21:22
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Correct equipment. Wrong number.
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Posted: 27th January 2005 21:54
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Now I'm starting to wonder.
128 (max with Esper boosts) + 7 (Magus Rod) + 7 (Magus Rod) + 5 (Magus Hat) + 6 (BehemothSuit) + 0 (Genji Glove) + 2 (Barrier Ring) = 155. I can't see what the problem is with Master ZED's numbers. [edit]Wait, maybe you're playing an extremely lame word game, in which case my answer is 345. This post has been edited by Corundum on 27th January 2005 21:57 |
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Posted: 27th January 2005 23:34
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I couldn't see the problem either, and then I realized he never answered the with/without Esper bonuses question ("the very max" doesn't say anything about Esper boosts, but it deceives everyone to believe it IS w/Esper boosts). So it's either 61 or 155. Given the equipment is correct, it can't be anything else.
I really don't think Detah would cheat everyone with the 61 answer and then not telling anyone that Espers don't count (that would be extremely lame given the initial response's implications), so his math must have been incorrect. -------------------- |
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Posted: 27th January 2005 23:42
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No word games. This is a simple question. Dont know what you guys are reading into it. 345 is wrong. [and it is my understanding that 345 is not possible within the confines of the game.]
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Posted: 28th January 2005 00:10
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Using the 'equip anything' bug from FF6j, you could have both Magus Rods on Strago without the Genji Glove, opening the possibility of 157 max. Magic Power.
I seem to remember that Detah was pretty strict on ignoring bugs in his answers, but I can't detect a flaw is ZED's/Corundum's logic so I thought to mention it. -------------------- |
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Posted: 28th January 2005 00:18
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WTF... now it's way too vague. 61 (initial rating 34 + equipment) is wrong, 155 (max Esper bonus rating 128 + equipment) is wrong, yet the equipment is correct and the question is supposedly simple.
So my question is since we're talking about Strago here, how the hell is the answer not 61 or 155 given the equipment above? Dji: Equip Anything has no restrictions outside of what Optimum won't touch (unlike Equip any weapon which does), which only applies to certain weapons and armors. Four Enhancers (not entirely certain four Magus Rods are available, so I'm going with something I know will work) and two Barrier Rings equate to 160. -------------------- |
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Posted: 28th January 2005 00:40
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Four Magus Rods aren't obtainable beyond the Sketch bug, so your safe route was a wise one.
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Posted: 28th January 2005 14:16
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155 (128+ 27) is the correct answer. I messed up and added his initial stat score of 34 to the total and I was waiting on a 189 answer.
I am sorry for any distress (grey hair, red eyes or loss of sleep) this question may have caused you. Anyway, I thought I would share my vision for this question. I am playing a LLG right now. My goal is to get Strago with 139 Magic Power and 116 Vigor. Heal Rod/Magus Rod, Magus Hat, Behemoth Suit, Economizer, Gem Box. Then test to see how many Spells and Lores can do max damage to a single target and to multiple targets. I'll post my results in this forum. |
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Posted: 28th January 2005 15:48
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apology accepted. I was kinda thinking along those lines as well, but anyway no stress caused (or at least, no additional stress)
as a side note, I am now kicking myself for not thinking of 2 things he can equip. stupid, stupid, stupid me! oh, and in case there's any confusion, MZ be up This post has been edited by alphasmart on 28th January 2005 15:49 -------------------- "Fire and steel follow me through the lands you will burn hordes of hell in the deadly raging flames of revenge" Rhapsody - Flames of Revenge |
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Posted: 31st January 2005 14:56
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over 2 days have elapsed since the solution was posted and corrected, so its open again. *again, sorry about that*
Q. How can you do a Desperation Attack without using the Fight command? I know of 3 ways. One way is to use Gau's Rage command's Battle/Special on a character with less than 12.5% of their max HP. Can you name the other two ways? |
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Posted: 31st January 2005 15:49
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I would complain about you taking 2 questions in a row, but I don't care really. good question.
being totally ignorant on such measures, may I suggest: being berzerked using black belt relic -------------------- "Fire and steel follow me through the lands you will burn hordes of hell in the deadly raging flames of revenge" Rhapsody - Flames of Revenge |
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Posted: 31st January 2005 17:00
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I'll take a guess and say Mimic before any other commands have been put in (basically making it a normal attack) and Berserked.
Edit: Gogo is listed as having a desperation attack (X-Meteo) and technically speaking Mimic is not the same as the Fight command. Thus wouldn't it be 4 different ways to do a desperation attack? Just curious is all. This post has been edited by Racthoh on 31st January 2005 17:20 -------------------- This is my world: (Got my second chapter up, 3rd Chapter about 80% complete) http://www3.sympatico.ca/daniel876/homepage.html |
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