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if anyone remembers and was disappointed by the addition of "ribbon" and the ability to fight the dark aeons AND the "eternal calm" video added to ff-x2 international version only, well, you're about to be disappointed again.

ff-x2 international will include, among other perks, new missions, yet another bonus ending movie that we don't get, and at least one new job class.

ok, square, this is getting ridiculous. to add an armor ability many hardcore ffx us/japan players would have killed for is one thing, but to add totally new job classes? what the hell? yeah, i hear the argument that pal players should get some sort of reward for having to wait longer, but what reward do US players get for having to wait longer for their version? a deleted scene? i already pay your frucking company TWICE each final fantasy game, i'm NOT going to import it from pal, too. now, my ffx-2, like my ffx, iwll always seem incomplete to me. feel free to rant along with me.

in other news, sce, which is not a bastard company like square (), is re-releasing a ps2 version of the original wild arms called alter code f. i know a couple of people here are fans of the series (me and neal used to talk about it all the time), so it should come as pleasant news. you can read the website here, but dont expect much if you don't know japanese. the screen shots look absolutely beautiful, tho.

Wow. I knew they'd done that with Final Fantasy X, but I had no idea they were going to be jerks about FFX-2, too. Another reason not to buy it...

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I'm happy about Wild Arms getting redone, that was the first game I got for my PS. Most didn't like the graphics, but I thought they were...well cute.

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It's just a game, so what if the Japanese get more of it then we do? We still get to play it :-) I agree that it'd be nicer if it had everything, but I'm not going to lose sleep over a missing job class and a few scenes.

I personally can't wait until FFX-2 comes out, and I loved FFX. But that's just me.

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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WE WAITED A YEAR FOR THAT FRONTAL EXPOSURE AND YOU'RE COMPLAING DID YOU COMPLAIN WHEN THE EMERALD AND RUBY WEAPONS WERE ADDED? (Well actually they haven't payed me back for misssing the original FFII,III,and V.)

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In my opinion, the more job classes: the better. So what's up with square being stingy?

I guess I could hope that they'll be pointless job classes, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Quote (gozaru~ @ 13th September 2003 20:20)

if anyone remembers and was disappointed by the addition of "ribbon" and the ability to fight the dark aeons AND the "eternal calm" video added to ff-x2 international version only, well, you're about to be disappointed again.

ff-x2 international will include, among other perks, new missions, yet another bonus ending movie that we don't get, and at least one new job class.

ok, square, this is getting ridiculous. to add an armor ability many hardcore ffx us/japan players would have killed for is one thing, but to add totally new job classes? what the hell? yeah, i hear the argument that pal players should get some sort of reward for having to wait longer, but what reward do US players get for having to wait longer for their version? a deleted scene? i already pay your frucking company TWICE each final fantasy game, i'm NOT going to import it from pal, too. now, my ffx-2, like my ffx, iwll always seem incomplete to me. feel free to rant along with me.

If i am reading this right, im getting more than the North Americans?

bonus... but its not what i want.
i wanted

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the abilty to finally kill rikku!

US players shoudl get more, as they are more dedictaed IMO.



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Quote (gozaru~ @ 13th September 2003 20:20)

if anyone remembers and was disappointed by the addition of "ribbon" and the ability to fight the dark aeons AND the "eternal calm" video added to ff-x2 international version only, well, you're about to be disappointed again.

ff-x2 international will include, among other perks, new missions, yet another bonus ending movie that we don't get, and at least one new job class.

ok, square, this is getting ridiculous. to add an armor ability many hardcore ffx us/japan players would have killed for is one thing, but to add totally new job classes? what the hell? yeah, i hear the argument that pal players should get some sort of reward for having to wait longer, but what reward do US players get for having to wait longer for their version? a deleted scene?

okay i'm from england so can comment on this from us so just hear me out okay? the ribbon which you can only get at the end of the game is almost useless, all the monsters in the monster arena can beat it, all the dark aeons can get past it, the only thing its useful for is the smaller monsters which you can kill in one hit anyway! the dark aeons are useless,there are stronger monsters in the arena. as for the video 'the eternal calm' its only a small few minute long video which im not sure we're even getting and you can find of an internet site if you look hard enough any way! okay i no u dont think its fair but we gat all thee games last, we're the very bottom of the barrel for getting games. so its only fair that we get a useless peice of armour and a few minute long video,isnt it?

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Okay okay the international version means U.S.& sometimes europe now lets get this straght if your talking about the gambler job its comng back as lady luck.

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Quote (Michael Cook @ 23rd September 2003 15:40)

Okay okay the international version means U.S.& sometimes europe

Um...No.
There are three versions for every video game: Japan, North America, and International (which basically means Europe).

So I'm assuming FFX-2 will have variable job classes, then?

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Oh i get it but so what the changes aren't major things to worry about i sure that the partial nudity will make up for that trust me.

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so its only fair that we get a useless peice of armour and a few minute long video,isnt it?

not in the least. the american gaming market is much larger and gives square more money than the japanese and european markets combined. it wouldn't make sense to stiff your largest customer base, but apparently square doesn't agree...regardless, the fact remains that america undoubtedly has the largest number of hardcore players. and even the hardcore players in japan can access all the bonus international content if they want to shell out some more money, because the international versions are re-released in japan. it simply doesn't make sense to stiff the americans, who still have to wait a period of time for the game to be released statside.

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Okay okay the international version means U.S.& sometimes europe now lets get this straght if your talking about the gambler job its comng back as lady luck.

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Oh i get it but so what the changes aren't major things to worry about i sure that the partial nudity will make up for that trust me.

you actually have no idea what i'm talking about.

EXTRA jobs and content will be added to the INTERNATIONAL version of ffx-2, just as was added to the int'l version of ffx. and the nudity is going to be edited out of the north american version -- i'll bet you that. square already confirmed that certain instances of the "plot" were going to be changed in the american release. they'll be certain to take out the bath.

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and the nudity is going to be edited out of the north american version -- i'll bet you that.  square already confirmed that certain instances of the "plot" were going to be changed in the american release.  they'll be certain to take out the bath.

Are video games going anime on us?

I don't think one tiny bath scene that is bound to have nothing to do with the story is something to be bothered over.

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Are you going off-topic on us?

It is not always the case that there's a Japanese, US and "International" release, by the way, at least, not with significant changes. It's extremely rare that the Euro release of a game gets any changes at all. The first game I saw that did was FF9, which was mysteriously translated into UK English. I was most pleased. (Even UK made games tend to get released in US English here.) But for the most part, European releases have just been the same thing, but slowed down by about 17% and squished between large black borders because of the better TV system noone could be bothered to fix things for, with some extra language selection thing stuffed in. Things have improved somewhat, though.

The last game for which I remember there being a lot of fuss about international versions (I'm not saying it's the only one, but I don't keep up with gaming news a lot) was FF7 International, which was the US AND worldwide release (except for various translations, etc., nothing else was added) and was likewise rereleased in Japan.

The argument from Europeans has long been that the market might be bigger if they weren't shafted by games companies every other day (particularly Nintendo, but that's another story). We didn't even get FF4 and FF6 in any form until 2002, which is a little disgusting.

I agree that it's particularly nonsensical to exclude additions from a North American release, but the excuse I read was that it was already almost finalised, and they want to get the thing out onto shelves, which I can understand. I don't see why they couldn't make a North American rerelease with new stuff, though, or a magical add-on disc.