Track this topic | Email this topic | Print this topic

It's not 3D, and it's definitely not the direction of Final Fantasy VII Remake, but that wonderfully polarizing mobile release of Final Fantasy VI is now coming to Steam. Of course, we all pretty much knew that was coming - any idiot could have told you that.

What to expect from this? The same thing that we got with Final Fantasy V, naturally; a version of the game with the new, wispy-sprite art style and generic font, configured to run under Windows and with the general layer of Steaminess like achievements, trading cards, and Steam Cloud. The game releases on December 16 and does not have a published price yet, though Final Fantasy V released at $15.99 a few months back.

Source: Kotaku

Since I have the Android release of the game, I'm missing nothing apart from the DRM which is wonderful to be missed. Though I've to say that I can't find a proper Android emulator to play FFVI well without a hitch using Android on PC.

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Neat. Buying this.

--------------------

X is blue.

"Final Fantasy VI Coming to Windows: Not a Remake"



"...mobile release of Final Fantasy VI is now..."



--------------------

Arts

Farts

Twarts

Disappointing.Might get it if it has new stuff in it, otherwise il play snes version.


--------------------

We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars.

Neil Degrasse Tyson.

Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 10th December 2015 19:48)

Disappointing.Might get it if it has new stuff in it, otherwise il play snes version.

It has new stuff over the SNES version like a bonus dungeon and an enemy rush minigame hidden post-endgame. Also includes an album to review the events of the game as well as the superior GBA translation, as well as a soundtrack player inside. If anything, its not missing one bit of the originals, its the SNES game + extras.

Still I do not suggest you to buy the game on PC. Do it on Android and stay away from the icky yucky DRM, no need to even buy anything with that much icky in it.

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

I just saw what it would look like and I have to say I am very angry and very disappointed that it looks so bad.ENIX!!! they made it easier too, why?

The auto feature is nice but they ruined the world map and the character sprites.It all looks like it's done on rpg maker, looking cartoonish.




--------------------

We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars.

Neil Degrasse Tyson.

Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 10th December 2015 22:41)

I just saw what it would look like and I have to say I am very angry and very disappointed that it looks so bad.ENIX!!! they made it easier too, why?

The auto feature is nice but they ruined the world map and the character sprites.It all looks like it's done on rpg maker, looking cartoonish.

Pretty much the sprites in the new version are much better than anything RPG Maker you're going to say, so I don't even get the mention either. They're also much better than the SNES sprites, granted.

However, as for making it "easier", I'm not even sure how true is that. Because in the difficulty department, it didn't feel much different than the godawful PSX port, and that's coming from someone who played the PSX half a time and beat the mobile port twice. Must tell you that in the 2nd Android run, I was almost getting hammered by Ultima Weapon, almost no different than the time he almost got me hammered in the PSX version, and I beat him in the same way in both runs: with a Riot Blade. So, 'easier', that's just a rumor.

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Quote (Pooka @ 10th December 2015 20:59)

Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 10th December 2015 22:41)

I just saw what it would look like and I have to say I am very angry and very disappointed that it looks so bad.ENIX!!!    they made it easier too, why?

The auto feature is nice but they ruined the world map and the character sprites.It all looks like it's done on rpg maker, looking cartoonish.

Pretty much the sprites in the new version are much better than anything RPG Maker you're going to say, so I don't even get the mention either. They're also much better than the SNES sprites, granted.

However, as for making it "easier", I'm not even sure how true is that. Because in the difficulty department, it didn't feel much different than the godawful PSX port, and that's coming from someone who played the PSX half a time and beat the mobile port twice. Must tell you that in the 2nd Android run, I was almost getting hammered by Ultima Weapon, almost no different than the time he almost got me hammered in the PSX version, and I beat him in the same way in both runs: with a Riot Blade. So, 'easier', that's just a rumor.

It's larger is what I noticed but the characters look more plastic and cartoony and the world looks a little worse too.i saw a scale of figure castle on the world map and it's smaller than the character.

--------------------

We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars.

Neil Degrasse Tyson.

Well, far be it from me to stir up drama, but the predictable Fortress of Doors commentary on this release is now in. http://www.fortressofdoors.com/doing-an-hd...y-ffvi-edition/

Well, okay, maybe a little drama around this. But don't shoot the messenger!

--------------------

"To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly

Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?

Well, the commentary had a chance to appear just a year ago when the game was originally re-released in this form. Another case of "too late to the party".

There's no more drama or good news to be said about this PC port, other than it being a DRM'd PC port of course. What applied to the mobile version applies there. Yes.

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Quote (Pooka @ 16th December 2015 20:30)

other than it being a DRM'd PC port of course.

Horror of all horrors.

Quote (Cefca @ 16th December 2015 23:45)

Quote (Pooka @ 16th December 2015 20:30)

other than it being a DRM'd PC port of course.

Horror of all horrors.

You sir, got the gist of it. That's the only time I'll ever tell you to 'emulate the GBA or the SNES' version, if you're stuck on the PC platform with no Android to fall back to. Seriously, the DRM is just a potential killer for the PC platform, and it severely damages the platform. But hey, we've got millions of people buying the ability to have their games controlled by third-parties and owned by third parties (in license rather than in the game's content) rather than giving YOU these abilities.

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Quote (Pooka @ 17th December 2015 06:54)

But hey, we've got millions of people buying the ability to have their games controlled by third-parties and owned by third parties (in license rather than in the game's content) rather than giving YOU these abilities.

That's probably because most people couldn't care less. I've gotta ask though, how exactly are they "controlling" my games?

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 15:40)

Quote (Pooka @ 17th December 2015 06:54)

But hey, we've got millions of people buying the ability to have their games controlled by third-parties and owned by third parties (in license rather than in the game's content) rather than giving YOU these abilities.

That's probably because most people couldn't care less. I've gotta ask though, how exactly are they "controlling" my games?

They "control" your games a lot like how a mother could "control" you also in that same sense.

What do I mean? In order to play, you need to ask the client and send it a request to play the game, otherwise it wouldn't play. Now here's the thing: in order to play, you need the client installed, and you need to be logged in with the account that bought the game. You also need to be connected to the internet to do either of those. If you lose either conditions, you simply cannot play your game legally without resorting to, err, black magic.

The end result is not lovely if you don't have the internet, which I suffered for... a solid 5 months.

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Quote (Pooka @ 17th December 2015 16:44)

and you need to be logged in with the account that bought thegame.

Not really sure how that's any different to when every game came with a CD key.

Quote

You also need to be connected to the internet to do either of those. If you lose either conditions, you simply cannot play your game legally without resorting to, err, black magic.

This isn't true. I've played my Steam games for months before while having no internet.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 18:47)

Not really sure how that's any different to when every game came with a CD key.

You will need to remain logged in afterwards! You cannot take your game to another PC without that account with you.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 18:47)

This isn't true. I've played my Steam games for months before while having no internet.

If it isn't true, then I don't know what it is. Because certainly that is the case. Can you install these games without the internet? No. Can you run them the first time without the internet? No as well. You need to go ONLINE first in order to play them OFFLINE, and then, you should start hoping this sucky piece of software doesn't get borked (it usually does) This is so wrong.

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Quote (Pooka @ 17th December 2015 17:08)

If it isn't true, then I don't know what it is. Because certainly that is the case. Can you install these games without the internet? No. Can you run them the first time without the internet? No as well. You need to go ONLINE first in order to play them OFFLINE, and then, you should start hoping this sucky piece of software doesn't get borked (it usually does) This is so wrong.

Ah, so now that you've changed your statement from not being able to play the game without internet...

As long as the retail disc you bought isn't just a steam shortcut, then yes, you can install it without the internet. If it is, blame the developer. Yes, you need to go online first to be able to play the games offline and that's because the games need to be fully updated (and why would you not want them to be?).

Well the sucky piece of software has been working the 12 years it's been out without any major issues with people being able to access their games so I think we'll be fine for a bit yet. Something happens? I'll just play them offline of course.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 19:39)

As long as the retail disc you bought isn't just a steam shortcut, then yes, you can install it without the internet. If it is, blame the developer.

Its easier to blame the one who provides all the companies an easy way to screw customers than to blame all of them and keep chasing after each one, one after another. Of course when Steam changes the DRM method in the future, I can't really blame the developer this time.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 19:39)

Yes, you need to go online first to be able to play the games offline and that's because the games need to be fully updated (and why would you not want them to be?).

That's NOT because you need to have your games fully updated, that's just bogus. That's to, you know, COMBAT PIRACY! That's the main reason anyone tries to force that on you, and the first reason they'll yell across the room (hence the caps). If it were for the games to be fully up to date, why would they allow offline mode but scrap the ability to play offline from the get-go? Just think of it. Of course, the combat piracy excuse is also a mere excuse, as piracy is really easy at this moment even with all the DRM, but in the end, the customer is the one hurt, and the pirates are still enjoying their days no problem.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 19:39)

Well the sucky piece of software has been working the 12 years it's been out without any major issues with people being able to access their games so I think we'll be fine for a bit yet. Something happens? I'll just play them offline of course.

Hope that something else doesn't happen while you're playing offline of course... like Windows borking out on you. Or the program itself. Once the program disappears from your computer while you are offline, you are unable to do anything with your remaining games. I think that should be scary enough.

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Quote (Pooka @ 17th December 2015 18:01)

Its easier to blame the one who provides all the companies an easy way to screw customers than to blame all of them and keep chasing after each one, one after another. Of course when Steam changes the DRM method in the future, I can't really blame the developer this time.

Easier maybe, but flawed.

Quote

That's NOT because you need to have your games fully updated, that's just bogus. That's to, you know, COMBAT PIRACY! That's the main reason anyone tries to force that on you, and the first reason they'll yell across the room (hence the caps). If it were for the games to be fully up to date, why would they allow offline mode but scrap the ability to play offline from the get-go? Just think of it. Of course, the combat piracy excuse is also a mere excuse, as piracy is really easy at this moment even with all the DRM, but in the end, the customer is the one hurt, and the pirates are still enjoying their days no problem.

Is there even any point to me responding to this conspiracy theory nonsense? You need to have your games fully updated, simple as. Try it if you don't believe me. Try going online to activate a game without updating it (as long as it needs updating obvsiously) and then try and play if offline and see if it works. Pro tip: It won't.

Quote

Hope that something else doesn't happen while you're playing offline of course... like Windows borking out on you. Or the program itself. Once the program disappears from your computer while you are offline, you are unable to do anything with your remaining games. I think that should be scary enough.

Dear god man, if Windows borked out on me I wouldn't be able to play the game regardless of DRM, would I? And why would the program possibly suddenly stop working offline unless my PC was the issue (in which case, guess what? DRM would be irrelevant)?

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 20:09)

Easier maybe, but flawed.

It becomes even easier to blame when it became most of the time the only way to get a game on PC, that and its restricted then.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 20:09)

Is there even any point to me responding to this conspiracy theory nonsense? You need to have your games fully updated, simple as. Try it if you don't believe me. Try going online to activate a game without updating it (as long as it needs updating obvsiously) and then try and play if offline and see if it works. Pro tip: It won't.

Conspiracy theory? Its not one at all. And contrary to what you said, you DON'T NEED to have your games fully updated. Its recommended, but its NOT NEEDED. There's a big difference here. Even Steam itself lets you choose between manually updating the game, not updating it at all, updating it automatically, or updating it ASAP. Lookie here though: not updating it at all. The fact that you based my whole argument on a 'conspiracy theory' with a point that is not only missing the point, but is also wrong, is saying much.

Finally to deliver the sting, the whole 'updates' thingy is not a job that DRM is supposed to do. Meaning that if you want to restrict access to a digital content, you CAN enable updates, AND if you don't want to restrict access to a digital content, you CAN enable updates.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 20:09)

Dear god man, if Windows borked out on me I wouldn't be able to play the game regardless of DRM, would I? And why would the program possibly suddenly stop working offline unless my PC was the issue (in which case, guess what? DRM would be irrelevant)?

Who said you can't reinstall Windows while offline? I did that just two months ago with a first time installation of Windows 10. But hey, DRM is relevant because of your wallet, not because the program sucks or doesn't suck. Because if you bought DRM'd games, you supported the DRM and made it relevant yourself. If you didn't buy DRM games, you didn't support the DRM and made it irrelevant. And as I say, just take it as a fact: DRM is inherently flawed, and doesn't do its job (read: PREVENTING PIRACY), and yet in the end, only the customer is affected from its side effects, not the intended target, a.k.a. the pirate.

This post has been edited by Pooka on 17th December 2015 19:06

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Quote (Pooka @ 17th December 2015 19:05)

Conspiracy theory? Its not one at all. And contrary to what you said, you DON'T NEED to have your games fully updated. Its recommended, but its NOT NEEDED. There's a big difference here. Even Steam itself lets you choose between manually updating the game, not updating it at all, updating it automatically, or updating it ASAP. Lookie here though: not updating it at all. The fact that you based my whole argument on a 'conspiracy theory' with a point that is not only missing the point, but is also wrong, is saying much.

Seriously try it and then come back and say that, yeah?

Quote

Who said you can't reinstall Windows while offline?

Er, not me, that's for sure. You ever heard the phrase "non sequitur"? Yeah. You're the one that brought that up in the first place, still not sure why.

Quote

But hey, DRM is relevant because of your wallet, not because the program sucks or doesn't suck. Because if you bought DRM'd games, you supported the DRM and made it relevant yourself. If you didn't buy DRM games, you didn't support the DRM and made it irrelevant. And as I say, just take it as a fact: DRM is inherently flawed, and doesn't do its job (read: PREVENTING PIRACY), and yet in the end, only the customer is affected from its side effects, not the intended target, a.k.a. the pirate.

I buy games because I want to, I couldn't give two shits whether they have DRM or not (unless it's something like starforce obviously). I'm not going to pay twice as much for a game (in general) from GOG.com* for example when I can get it a lot cheaper and the only downside is that I have to login once. Yeh, I think I can live with that.

*I don't gave a problem with GOG, I've bought plenty of games from there, it's just an example.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 21:26)

Seriously try it and then come back and say that, yeah?

Not interested, thank you. Your point is still moot. You don't go online to activate first because of updates, you do so because, at this point you are a pirate, and only when you go online to activate your game that you no longer become a pirate and become a customer. Even though you should be the customer all along.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 21:26)

Er, not me, that's for sure. You ever heard the phrase "non sequitur"? Yeah. You're the one that brought that up in the first place, still not sure why.

You're not sure? OUCH! Looks like you missed the reading part of my post. Yeah, I hope nothing happens to your Steam installation be it a Windows getting borked or the program glitching it out or whatever.

Quote (Cefca @ 17th December 2015 21:26)

I buy games because I want to, I couldn't give two shits whether they have DRM or not (unless it's something like starforce obviously). I'm not going to pay twice as much for a game (in general) from GOG.com* for example when I can get it a lot cheaper and the only downside is that I have to login once. Yeh, I think I can live with that.

Very well then. But when Steam's terms of agreements changes on, not only your future games, but also the games you bought before under the old terms of agreement, and then you end up disliking a part of that new TOS so hard it'll affect your usage of the service greatly, please don't come back crying to me. I used the service myself for like three years, and I've been happy from the beginning but getting less happy until eventually, I pulled the plug on the service. I tried and I came back crying. Don't say I didn't warn you.

That said, I'm wrapping up this discussion already. We're in the area of "Beyond Off-Topic," let's end our advance into that here.

This post has been edited by Pooka on 17th December 2015 20:40

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Quote (Pooka @ 17th December 2015 20:37)

Not interested, thank you. Your point is still moot. You don't go online to activate first because of updates, you do so because, at this point you are a pirate, and only when you go online to activate your game that you no longer become a pirate and become a customer. Even though you should be the customer all along.

Yeah, that's not what I said. For someone who talks about people missing the reading part, you seem to do it a lot. But fair enough, if you don't wanna prove most of your argument wrong, don't try it. I'll sit here happily knowing that I'm right since I'm the one that's actually done it.

Quote

You're not sure? OUCH! Looks like you missed the reading part of my post. Yeah, I hope nothing happens to your Steam installation be it a Windows getting borked or the program glitching it out or whatever.

I'm sure it won't, thanks!

Quote

Very well then. But when Steam's terms of agreements changes on, not only your future games, but also the games you bought before under the old terms of agreement, and then you end up disliking a part of that new TOS so hard it'll affect your usage of the service greatly, please don't come back crying to me. I used the service myself for like three years, and I've been happy from the beginning but getting less happy until eventually, I pulled the plug on the service. I tried and I came back crying. Don't say I didn't warn you.

If, when, but, maybe, perhaps. Yeah, if you wanna base everything on what might happen, don't bother buying anything ever. But I'll keep enjoying buying my cheap games thanks.

This post has been edited by Cefca on 17th December 2015 20:54

Ugh whatever. I'll be sitting here knowing that I'm the correct one here, seeing as what you do is misreading stuff, and when called out on it, you call me out for your own fault. Then again, you're so trusting in your short term stuff, it'll basically hurt you, but oh my.

That's like buying one of these cheap mouses. Sure, they're cheap, but they won't last long for you, but an expensive mouse MUST last long or else. So don't come and brag about how cheap your games are when they're inferior to the long term stuff anyone should be buying. I'm paying more for more, and you're paying less for less. Nothing to brag about, you. In the end, I just noticed, you're enjoying buying games for less. Nothing at all about, enjoying playing the games you bought... Now now, can we halt this discussion to a grind with you obviously losing it out?

This post has been edited by Pooka on 17th December 2015 21:16

--------------------

I am Exdeath. Step aside pesky clowns, or your warranty is Void!

Ugh, brick walls come to mind here. I actually can't be arsed, take it as a victory if you want, I've fun out of fucks to give for the year.

Been a while since I had to close a news post! Good day for it.

--------------------

"To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly

Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN?