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how can you people hate Umaro?

Cheez-in-rice people!

Hes one of the most important people in my team. I dont need to push a button to beat a group of people. I put the gauntlet on him too and bring his BAT up to 340 (est)...

I just wanna know why you people like strago more than umaro...

don't feel bad,
I injoyed using Umaro in my party. (even tho, I can't control him, but I use him and Gau as auto-fighters)

Having more than one auto character in a party will get you into trouble. But yes, Umaro is powerful

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This post has been edited by Guy on 16th July 2012 04:57

If you want the most powerful party though, sacrificing control of a character is the way to go. If you let 3 of your characters die, you're probably gonna lose no matter who the forth character is. Keeping the 3 controllable characters healthy is usually not a tricky proposition. Life 3 works wonders in tough battles, as does Life 2 and Cure 3. Plus if you cast Life 3 on Gau or Mog, when they die and come back, you get to control them

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This post has been edited by Guy on 16th July 2012 05:16

Relm wouldn't be bad if Sketch didn't freeze up the game every other time you use it. The only time Locke is good is during the whole Strago/Relm scenario when he has a Genji Glove with two Hawk Eyes. It's awesome when he throws both of em. Cyan is just as good as Sabin when you let your other characters attack first before charging his attack.

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I have no problem with Umaro, but he is not in my usual groups (i.e. Locke, Celes, Edgar, Setzer). I think he is a hell lot more useful then other characters like Strago, Relm, or Gau.

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There is no way Umaro is more useful than Gau. Umaro has no attack that is stronger than Gau's. Gau has better stats and can cast magic. So I'm rather confused on that comment

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I don't get what you're confused about, just cause Gau has better stats and can cast magic doesn't mean he's instantly more useful i90. A level 50 Umaro can still mop the floor with a level 20 Gau no matter how much potential Gau has. My point is no one in this game is the best character, they just have the potential to be, so just cause Gau's more useful to you, it doesn't mean he's gonna be more useful to BGrugby.

just my 2 cents.

Believe me, everyone's more useful than my Gau

btw, Relms sketch only freezes the game in Kefkas tower

This post has been edited by Generic Fighter #382 on 12th November 2003 06:10

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A level 50 Gau would own a level 50 Umaro anyday. My point is, Gau is simply more powerful than Umaro when put up head-to-head. How can Umaro have more potential then? Comparing a level 50 Umaro to a level 20 Gau just isn't fair.

I was using Sketch on the floating continent, and it froze the game on a regular basis. I'm using FF3us v1.0. The problem might be fixed in v1.1.

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I don't hate Umaro; I find him somewhat useful, in fact, in that he has a very powerful attack, an ice-elemental skill (if you equip the Blizzard Orb), and a defense-penetrating attack (if you equip him with the Rage Ring). He was on one of my teams going into Kefka's tower. The two I didn't take were Relm (because Sketch/Control were never too useful for me, a person who generally prefers physical attacks on most regular enemies) and Cyan (since his SwdTechs took too long to charge up).

I played the ROM version on the SNES9X emulator. I never had the Sketch glitch.

Strago I considered a very powerful character, second in magic power only to Terra.

Gau is actually quite useful if you know how to use him. Memorize a few rages that you find useful (e.g. WhtDragon: Pearl, SrBehemoth: Fire3, Magic Urn: Cure3, etc.) and when you enter a decisive battle, choose the one that you judge most appropriate: e.g., choose the SrBehemoth rage when fighting the Ice Dragon. That's how I made use of Gau. There are many Gau Rage lists out there online; if you need one just use Google to find it.

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Hmm, I use the ZSNES emulator. I wonder if that makes any difference. Relm starts out with the highest magic power stat at 44 I think it is. All other stats are very low though.

If anyone is interested in rages, Templar (Fire 2, Safe) and Stray Cat (Catscratch) are the best when you first get Gau. As soon as you get the airship get Aspik (Giga Volt) which casts a monster variant of Bolt 3. These are what put Gau over the top in the WoB. Other good WoB rages include Brawler (Stone), Slamdancer (Ice 2), Hazer (Bolt 2), Ninja (Water Edge), Over-Mind (Elf Fire), Rain Man (Bolt 3), Behemoth (Meteor), Chimera (Aqua Rake), ChickenLip (Quake) and Wyvern (Cyclonic). Good WoR rages include Io (Flare Star), Retainer (Shock), Didalos (Merton), Vectaur (Pearl Wind), Spek Tor (Blaster), Enuo (CleanSweep), Prussian (Land Slide), Chaser (Plasma), Tom Thumb (Step Mine), Toe Cutter (Shrapnel), Harpiai (Aero), Rhyos (Surge), and PowerDemon (Flare). That's all I can think of for now.

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I'm gonna go with i90 here. Gau is probably the MOST useful character in the game, assuming you've taken the time to have him learn a wide variety of Rage attacks. With enough Rages, Gau can do just about any attack, anytime. If you then take the time to study what Rage does what, there is no enemy that can stand up to him. Not to mention that he can equip the Snow Muffler and become damn near invincible.

If you want a good list of rages check out the Kefka's Domain section of the Moogle Cafe (pub69.ezboard.com/bthemooglecafe). It should have a topic labeled something like "Rages" where in several posts, several members compiled a list of very useful (and VERIFIED) rages.

If you look at who made some of the posts, you'll also note where else I've been.

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true, umaro cant cast magic, but i dont usually have to cast magic anyways, becayse i have a 99 team. Umaro rules, and yes, his stats are just as good as gaus. Well, i can see where u normal players can want gau more, but i prefer umaro

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This post has been edited by Guy on 16th July 2012 05:17

I never saw why I should use Umaro? I didn't really care for him. But he was my favorite character when going up the magic tower.

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I like Umaro too, which surprised me, because I normally prefer to have complete control over my characters. That's one reason Gau was never my favorite. Now, I don't -hate- Gau, I just don't tend to use him much. The reason for that is that I like a nice, straightforward battle, and I don't always feel like a Rage is necessary. In those circumstances, I want him to just do something normal, and it bothers me that he has no Fight command. And I feel bad just skipping him.

Anyway, Umaro. I never cease to be amazed at the massive damage he does, and it does my heart good to see him heave party members at the enemy. Especially since I keep expecting them to be damaged in the process, but they're not. Granted, the fact that Umaro is essentially Berserk all the time makes me ditch him for someone with a little more finesse when I encounter a tricky fight, like one where I'm gonna need a lot of healing, or one where timing is important.

Gau>Umaro
period.
gau has better stats, AND they can be improved. he also has a better selection of armor. he also CAN learn magic thru espers, but he learns great spells like flare and meteor thru rages and they dont drain his MP. w00t w00t

and locke IS NOT weak, i dont care HOW you go thru the game. Give him a wing edge or atma weapon, and he pwns.

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Guy--a follow-up on using the Rhinox rage in the battle against the MagiMaster: you cannot use rage in the Fanatics' Tower. (I don't think you can use lore either.) Also, Gogo only has the Mimic command, even if you put Magic on as a choosable command (as I remember). So far as I know it, only Umaro can use physical attacks in the Tower.

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This post has been edited by Guy on 16th July 2012 05:18

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Also, Gogo only has the Mimic command, even if you put Magic on as a choosable command (as I remember).

Give Gogo Fight, and it will become Magic in the tower.

This post has been edited by Master ZED on 19th November 2003 16:59

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Yes; that's why Magic is on the top slot if you use standard menu design. In the tower, it runs a script or something to turn Fight into Magic.
I wonder...if you have X-Fight, will it be X-Magic?

There is no "X-Fight" command, contrary to what the Offering description would have you believe, so no.

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This post has been edited by Guy on 16th July 2012 05:17