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The reason why i think squall has good character development, is because he in himself does have a personality, and we see in monologue's that he is rather shy and doesn't trust anyone.He must also overcome his shyness in order to be able to work with a team, because He needs to give his team his opinion as to make a better leader, so they can work with him.A team doesn't work well with loners, because everyone has to work together, and you even get a scene where he is faced with a situation where one member(rinoa) actually confronts him on this issue.Another reason i like squall as a character, is because we see the effects of burden of responsibility put upon his shoulders.I know if i was made a commander of the balamb garden, i too would be rather stressed out with having to decide the fate of the entire garden, and what happens them would be my fault, so we see he isn't really selfish at all, because he is full of self doubt if he is ready and capable of handling the responsibility.I've seen at my past job where one of my bosses was super stressed out and actually lashed out on one person, because the person or persons were not doing their job very well, and of course:If they fail, he fails too, and he is responsible for making everything work.

Seifer is the complete opposite, which i also know someone in real life a lot like seifer.Arrogant self assured very cavalier about everything, and can't stand to be alone.The problem is:Seifer isn't that interesting, because there is nothing more to him other than that.

Quistis:The one reason i like quistis, is because she has synergy with squall, and you can understand a good teacher would be helping their student out as much as they are allowed, and quistis perceives that squall is a bit troubled with his shyness and tries her hardest to work with him, knowing it would be tough to gain someone likes squall's trust.

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I thought that he had good character development and growth as well. Squall went from a guy with trust-issues and had a strong habit of pushing others away and then when he's basically forced to work with others he slowly slips into a kind and caring man who loves Rinoa and his friends.

I disagree with you and Seifer though. Seifer developed from a man who was basically a aggressive and arrogant brat to crazed psychopath to understanding that he was basically a puppet and feeling sorry for his errors and mess ups. Seifer was a nice secondary villain.

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Well um seifer was a jerk.Remember at the end when what is the name of that follower of his which was the male counterpart, was it raijin or fujin which was the male? i think raijin is the male and fujin the female, and raijin got a fish and seifer was miserable cause raijin was actually doing something he couldn't do cause seifer is a loser, so fujin kicks raijin in the water and he loses the fish, and seifer laughs.

I wouldn't say seifer was a psychopath, as much as maybe just plain loser who can't do anything well.He is also easily manipulated into doing whatever the person wants, and a narcissist possibly.

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A lot of people give me flak about this but FF8 is my favorite of the 3d FF's with 9 as a second. In 8 the story and character development were amazing every character had some sort of defect that they had to overcome throughout the story which made you want to keep delving deeper.

6 is still the best FF ever! The story the characters and Kefka, and he actually destroys the world.

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Why does Squall have good character development?

The mathematician's answer is, of course, because he's the main character.

But if I were to postulate that you mean, "what about Squall's character development is unique," then the first thing that pops into my mind is that Squall thinks a lot, and it's made clear that it's him thinking, and not his younger self or Sephiroth, like Cloud before him.

We get to see into the mind of the Warrior of Light for the first time...truly profound.

I coulda done without the "nobody's gonna talk about me in the past tense" thing...

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squall isn't some douche because he is, he is a shy troubled late teen who never overcame his shyness.I think though that the second half of the game isn't as good as the first 2 disks.



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Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 23rd September 2013 04:39)

Well um seifer was a jerk.Remember at the end when what is the name of that follower of his which was the male counterpart, was it raijin or fujin which was the male? i think raijin is the male and fujin the female, and raijin got a fish and seifer was miserable cause raijin was actually doing something he couldn't do cause seifer is a loser, so fujin kicks raijin in the water and he loses the fish, and seifer laughs.

I wouldn't say seifer was a psychopath, as much as maybe  just plain loser who can't do anything well.He is also easily manipulated into doing whatever the person wants, and a narcissist possibly.

Yup !

But he does show improvement and maturity at the game's end though.

Raijin is the male and yeah it was a bit silly, but it's okay to laugh. It make Seifer feel more human than just a bunch of old PlayStation Graphics.

Seifer did snap during CD 3 though. His envy for Squall and him being a puppet made him go a little nutty and thus him giving away Rinoa like a doll, despite him once having a huge crush on her to Adel.

Yup wouldn't disagree with you on that. Seifer was a huge narcissist, though the ending shows hope that he's learnt his lessons a bit and he actually shows honor and respect for Squall than just pity jealously.

About Squall and the later discs it was nice that he did change and become a nicer and more trusting person to others and he actually destroyed his walls and overcame his fears. However his IQ goes downhill faster than a newer episode of Spongebob Squarepants and he also looses his calm and intelligent manner, which what was made him a decent leader and why people looked up to him the first place.

Love does make you a idiot sometimes though, which is what SquareSoft back then was hinting at. Also that Squall loves Rinoa so much that he's willing to give up his own life for her. ( Stupid Boy )

This post has been edited by berryfunny on 9th October 2013 09:21

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When you all describe Seifer like that, you remind me of Kain from FFIV.

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Quote (MogMaster @ 9th October 2013 15:52)

When you all describe Seifer like that, you remind me of Kain from FFIV.

There is a difference though:

There is really no point in seifers actions.He was a jerk at the start who was a loser who couldn't accomplish anything, because he didn't follow orders.Kain is jealous of cecil because cecil has rosa.

Seifer is a failure because he doesn't like following the rules of balamb which is society of balamb school,so he's anti social per say.He joined edea only because he was intimidated by calling him a boy, and because he has a hatred of squall for some reason.I think maybe he's jealous of squall's success as a seed, or maybe its because squall is the only person who can stand up to seifer, and he's angry that squall is the only person capable of humiliating him.

I personally like kain more than seifer, because he has a better reason to fight cecil.Seifer's reason seems kinda iffy at times, and doesn't clarify what seifer fights for.He says he's a white knight for edea, and has a hatred of squall, but there isn't really much explanation as to why.I seriously think that maybe seifer is just very insecure, and loves to be at the center of attention.Look at his reaction when raijin catches a fish, and seifer feels insecure because even raijin is better at something than he is, and fujin kicks raijin into the water to make him feel better about his insecurities.Is it possible? that seifer is just very insecure?

Also:When you look at his insults and how he gets to zell, zell is easy to catch his attention by annoying him.This is the typical attitude you see from bullies who try to make themselves feel bigger than others by picking on little guys.

What i think, is that kain's jealousy of cecil having rosa is like a black plague eating him from within, getting in the way of kain and cecil's friendship.

This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 9th October 2013 17:10

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We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars.

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