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Does anyone out there like Terra better than any of the other girls you can play.
She is my favourite and she seems to be like me. -------------------- |
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Posted: 19th November 2004 23:31
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I hate hate HATE terra because of her "clueless" attitude. -------------------- Yeah, I know the name is stupid. I made this account when I was 14. |
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Posted: 19th November 2004 23:38
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I would rank the girls like this:
1 - Relm 2 - Terra 3 - Celes Relm is by far the most useful for me. I like using the control function to mess around with things... like stealing!!! It is also very handy for learning lores, like "Big Guard." Terra is only second because Celes is just so useless. If her "morph" fuction acted different, as in the high the level, the longer you can morph and not have it depend on previous battles fought it would be much better. I only use Celes when I am forced to, and only use her "Runic" ability during the tunnel armour battle. But seeing as how I rarely even use Relm since Gogo can do the same thing, my opinion is completely biased. -------------------- "Look at me! I'm a receptionist! G'fa ha ha!" Quote Ultros |
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Posted: 19th November 2004 23:57
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Terra is an awesome tragic heroine. Perfect background history, consistent loss and a lack of godawful plotholes (12 year old fighting along side the most powerful men/women in history, General without troops/useful ties in the Empire/deus ex machina dice plot to force Setzer to join)
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Posted: 20th November 2004 00:19
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Quote (Elessar @ 19th November 2004 18:57) (12 year old fighting along side the most powerful men/women in history, General without troops/useful ties in the Empire/deus ex machina dice plot to force Setzer to join) Nice criticisms. Yes I like Terra, I just don't connect with her on a personal level. I think that her 'study' of the nature of life is an eloquent counterpoint to the deep questions raised by the mere existence of Kefka. I don't think I'm out on a limb here, the final speeches before the last battle make that connection kind of heavily. Just like the Hikaroo pic of her is the mascot for our beloved CoN, Terra in character and image, to me, symbolizes the whole game of FF6. Funny, I didn't think I'd have anything interesting to say about this.... -------------------- Get me off this Disciplinary Committee so I can play any FF except for FF8!!! |
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Posted: 20th November 2004 16:48
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I like Terra. Sure she is clueless but she has been used as a tool by the Empire and she is the only one of her kind. I would be clueless too.
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Posted: 20th November 2004 18:00
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I didn't think Terra was any better or any worse then the other two girls. She was clueless alright but then, so was everybody else up until the WOR. I don't think she was nieve, she felt more like an outcast. I think that is why she didn't join up with you right away in WOR. I can understand that. However, I wouldn't have done the same thing as her if I were put in her shoes. I can't blame her for her confusion though.
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Posted: 20th November 2004 19:32
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You guys are right you know, it is cool that she is a living weapon and a symbol of the first apocolypse.
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Posted: 20th November 2004 20:28
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The great part about Terra's plot is how she grows up. At first, she's asking questions and doesn't know where she stands, she also feels week and helpless dispite her great power. Her time spent in Mobliz helps her to understand herself, and the power she has for good in the world, especially in the lives of the children. When she encounters Kefka, she is no longer afraid of his power, and neither is she lost and asking questions. She is the one telling him what life is all about, and that the power is the ability to do good. In the end, Kefka has no power to make any of the charecters squirm in fear, and it's Terra (and the rest of the party) who has the ability to change the world.
[Thanks to Ejoty's post above for giving me a better insite into Terra's character.] However, I'm going to have to say that I like Celes more than Terra; I don't know exactly why, but it's probably because of the large amount of time Terra isn't in your party. This post has been edited by Iain Peregrine on 20th November 2004 20:42 |
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Posted: 20th November 2004 20:34
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I like terra's character fairly well. Relm, I never really liked her (even after finding out who she was related to). Celes is okay, but her whole "I'm in love/not in love" thing is all drama. I don't like drama people.
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Posted: 20th November 2004 20:40
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i think terrs is pretty awesome! i didn't like relm as much, never used her alot. as for celes, i love her! i usually had either her and terra in my party all the times. plus, terra and celes are hott!
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Posted: 20th November 2004 21:13
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I think all three girls are just ok.
Terra- oh sure, she maybe clueless about her past and Possible spoilers: highlight to view what it feels like to be loved. Relm is a good painter. and it's also fun to give her the thife's knife (Merit Award required) and a maybe with the Offering or the Genji glove, she'll be able to equip some weapons she can't normaly handle. Celes is very helpful at the begining of the game against Tunnel Armor and the battle with Kefka. (his magic is really powerful) if you train up just about any character right, they can be unstoppable. |
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Posted: 23rd November 2004 01:50
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I didn't find her that interesting. Up until the point where all she wanted to do was just lie in bed, her attitude was "I'm just along for the ride," and in a more irritating way than the other characters who were along just for the ride.
The mechanics behind Morph prevent you from using it enough to like it. While Terra is invaluable for being the trigger for the story, she's not a whole lot of use later, story-wise and battle-wise (the latter because abscence of usefulness for Morph gives her a lack of uniqueness). -------------------- "I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books." -Brad Meltzer |
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Posted: 23rd November 2004 02:30
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Quote (Tonepoet @ 20th November 2004 14:00) I didn't think Terra was any better or any worse then the other two girls. She was clueless alright but then, so was everybody else up until the WOR. I don't think she was nieve, she felt more like an outcast. I think that is why she didn't join up with you right away in WOR. I can understand that. However, I wouldn't have done the same thing as her if I were put in her shoes. I can't blame her for her confusion though. Everyone was fine up until WOR. I thought WOR was really poorly put together in terms of story. The gameplay was awesome at that point though. Still, comments in this thread are totally right about morph. That was one ability that could've been a lot cooler and made for way better cutscenes if they abused it more. -------------------- Visions of Peace - Four Generals, One Empire, and the Returners caught in the middle. |
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Posted: 23rd November 2004 04:37
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Quote Quote Tonepoet @ 20th November 2004 14:00) I didn't think Terra was any better or any worse then the other two girls. She was clueless alright but then, so was everybody else up until the WOR. I don't think she was nieve, she felt more like an outcast. I think that is why she didn't join up with you right away in WOR. I can understand that. However, I wouldn't have done the same thing as her if I were put in her shoes. I can't blame her for her confusion though. Everyone was fine up until WOR. I thought WOR was really poorly put together in terms of story. The gameplay was awesome at that point though. Still, comments in this thread are totally right about morph. That was one ability that could've been a lot cooler and made for way better cutscenes if they abused it more. True Elessar, I also thought the story downgraded in the WOR. I don't see what that has to do with my post but it is true. I think that it is because the story became non linear. That probably made it harder to organize events. On the bright side, it allowed for better gameplay. I am still kinda new here and don't know if my former post was clear enough. If it wasn't just tell me and I will clairify it. I have to keep on the topic now. You know so the mods don't kill me with their special ninja powers ![]() I actualy think Terra had one of the better abilities. Morph didn't disrupt the battle flow, like Sword Tech and/or Runic. Also, it was also more dependable then Slots and/or Sketch. During my first play through, I knew how it worked but that was because I had the manual. I only saved it for the special occasions. You know, like the ones when I wanted vengance on a boss for killing me too much. These days I just save it for the final portion of the final battle. That way Tera does a ton of damage with Ultima. The Gem Box/Economizer combo has never been so useful. I think if you could use morph just whenever it would be over powered. However, it is more flawed then I make it out to be. The reasons why have already been stated above so I won't go over them again. I don't want to bore everybody you know. What ![]() ![]() -------------------- |
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Posted: 23rd November 2004 08:39
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Quote (Tonepoet @ 22nd November 2004 22:37) I only saved it for the special occasions. You know, like the ones when I wanted vengance on a boss for killing me too much. These days I just save it for the final portion of the final battle. That way Tera does a ton of damage with Ultima. I think if you could use morph just whenever it would be over powered. 1. That's what Square wanted you to do. If it weren't on a meter, it would be overpowered, just like you say. Besides, Terra is good enough most of the time without it. 2. Morph has no effect on Ultima's damage, or any typical ignore defense attack. Exceptions include dice weapons and Item spells... maybe something else I've yet to think of. -------------------- |
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Posted: 23rd November 2004 09:56
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Well everyone says they can't connect to Terra. Well how do you connect to someone who to our knowledge has become aware of herself for the first time ever when she was 18. She had no parents to love her, no love from anyone else(Celes had atleast Cid) and everything she does know appears to be pure instinct.
I for one love Terra for one reason, her uniqueness. There is no one in the world of whom I could compare Terra too. She had to discover who she is, what she is, learn her place in society, regain her free will and discover love after oppressed in the span of 1-2 years of which the game takes place. For someone who isn't control for most her life, she displays maturity far beyond that of any 18yr old "Why do people seek power that destroys"(I know its not the real quote I will edit this later). She is vital in the storyline of FF6 making it the most human Final Fantasy ever. If FF6 was remade in PS2 graphics today It would surpass FF7-10(in popularity) in the drop of a hat because of the storyline. She has her strong moments and weak moments that all young people go through. If anyone says they don't like her because they think she is weak and doesn't believe in herself, everyone has gone through that at some point in their lives. Terra was the pure hearted heroine who lived a hero's journey. Whether she still plays mother now is entirely in the fate of Fan writers, or SquareEnix if they want to a FF6 sequal. Game play wise. Morph may have been short in time but any longer and I agree with Master ZED and Tonepoet, Terra would have been far overpowered. She was well balanced and tougher than most FF mages I've ever come across. I mean did you want her to be a superpowered fighter. How many times has that been done in a Final Fantasy? |
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Posted: 23rd November 2004 13:51
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Quote (MorgueN @ 23rd November 2004 05:56) Game play wise. Morph may have been short in time but any longer and I agree with Master ZED and Tonepoet, Terra would have been far overpowered. She was well balanced and tougher than most FF mages I've ever come across. I mean did you want her to be a superpowered fighter. How many times has that been done in a Final Fantasy? Notably Orlandu, FFT. Quote (Tonepoet @ 23rd November 2004 00:37) True Elessar, I also thought the story downgraded in the WOR. I don't see what that has to do with my post but it is true. I think that it is because the story became non linear. That probably made it harder to organize events. I mostly pointed out that you were right, Terra was pretty awesome in WoB and then it became horrid in WoR. It's almost a trend of Square's, since WoR was non-linear (as you pointed out) and a good character development plot is difficult when you can only guarantee their appearance in one or two areas. Frankly, I wonder if Square ever meant to have two female leads. It would have made more sense to combine Terra and Celes' roles into one, and created a single protagonist that was focal to the plot rather than splitting the stories in two. Imagine Terra's morph being an automatic runic, so while morphed she drains magic while simultaneously being more powerful for 2+ turns. Oooh.. those shivers means I like this idea. Someone entertain my sudden brainstorm here: Celes' General role has always been called into question. Her total lack of friends or troops in the Empire (with the exception of Cid) seemed always to be a big plothole. Could it have been possible that the two should have been the same person, but split due to constraints or the necessity of having a large cast? This would keep Locke's attentions on one single woman (he was never a flirt. Look at his dedication to Rachel) during the two major splits in the party ( Possible spoilers: highlight to view ) while at the same time giving one person the massive development necessitated by a main character.Magitek Factory Quest and Thamasa Quest Possible spoilers: highlight to view Cid and Terra on the Solitary Island could easily be explained away, as Cid had to have experimented on Terra due to her inherent abilities to cast magic. At the same time, her role on the Solitary Island is totally Terra. Overly emotional and attempting to save someone that was her father, someone she never had, while at the same time being aware of the choice to either care or not to (since the player can choose Cid's fate, this mirrors her subconcious). Interesting... -------------------- Visions of Peace - Four Generals, One Empire, and the Returners caught in the middle. |
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Posted: 2nd December 2004 08:25
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Terra and Celes are my favorite FF girls out of all the games. I related to both of them really well and thought they were both developed well-- they were complex, even contradictory at times. Someone said that Celes went back and forth between being in love/not being in love and it was all drama. I actually liked the way she attempted to repress her romantic side, it reminded me a lot of myself. And I related to Terra really well too because she was different, like me.
I also like the way both of them wondered about love but never actually got into a relationship. It was realistic, and I love stories that are romantic but as far from possible as mushy. I liked the way they were tough and independent, but still could be girly and romantic. |
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Posted: 2nd December 2004 11:37
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I like Terra for nearly all of the reasons listed above. Also for the green hair. Personally, I like Celes more, but's that's mostly because Terra seems to represent WoB to me while Celes represents WoR, and I like WoR more. Rest assured, I had both of them in the final battle.
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Posted: 2nd December 2004 14:41
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Terra's one of my favorite playable characters as well as story characters, for reasons already stated. She's always the most über-powerful of my team, both physically and magically, and constantly hogs the Atma Weapon. I just can't not like someone I always see smacking things with a lightsaber.
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Posted: 2nd December 2004 16:13
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Terra is a decent character. But for a main character, she's sure treated as a support character. I mean, when you come to the WoR, the character you control should be the main character but you control Celes, a support character. Also, in the CG at the end of the game, the last pic was Celes, not Terra. If you ask me, the main character is Celes but I like Terra much better as a main char.
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Posted: 2nd December 2004 17:20
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Quote (Auragaea @ 2nd December 2004 10:13) Terra is a decent character. But for a main character, she's sure treated as a support character. I mean, when you come to the WoR, the character you control should be the main character but you control Celes, a support character. Also, in the CG at the end of the game, the last pic was Celes, not Terra. If you ask me, the main character is Celes but I like Terra much better as a main char. i think that was done intentionally to make the story a bit different, we already got to be introduced to all the characters through terra, now we're in the WOR, so lets take it from a different point of view, very well done in my opinion. I also think that maybe they did this so that neither Terra nor Celes would be "main characters" but so that they could shy away from this aspect altogether, and make it about 15 different stories coming together, and that being the important aspect. -------------------- Adma <3 CoN |
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Posted: 2nd December 2004 19:58
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The main character is Mog.
Quote I for one love Terra for one reason, her uniqueness. There is no one in the world of whom I could compare Terra too. She had to discover who she is, what she is, learn her place in society, regain her free will and discover love after oppressed in the span of 1-2 years of which the game takes place. For someone who isn't control for most her life, she displays maturity far beyond that of any 18yr old "Why do people seek power that destroys"(I know its not the real quote I will edit this later). Well, the same thing happened to Rydia, living with monsters for 11 years, the fire, all the death and war she saw, being forced to cast fire, fighting Bahamut, not like Terra who only fought Doom-Gaze. Rydia is one of the characters that actually compare to Terra. Anyway, I like Terra, she reminds me of Rydia. Green Hair, natural magical powers, etc. If there were more cut-scenes with her, than she would be in my top 3 FF6 game characters. -------------------- Could you repeat that? |
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Posted: 3rd December 2004 00:37
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Green Magi, I think she's more lookalike to Rosa from FF4. I mean, look at her hairstyle. Sure, it's not green, but it gives me a quick resemblance to Terra.
I like Terra. She's ok to me. I like Celes better though...Not because of her Runic, but because she's hot. Ok, getting off topic, lol. Terra, btw, she's pretty useful along with Celes in a No-Esper game I probably made up after beating a No Materia game at FF7. Terra's story and background is nice and so is her abilities. She doesn't suck. She's only physically weak but she may be treated like Rosa to keep usin White Magic to support her friend(s). |
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Posted: 3rd December 2004 01:51
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I like Terra a lot. She's one of my favorite protagonists from any Final Fantasy game. Her storyline was unusual but poignant, and her abilities made her one of the most powerful characters in the game, bar none. She was very well-characterized. I preferred her to the other girls, for the most part.
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Posted: 8th December 2004 05:48
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terra was simply god like, if you only used morph for a boss battle, but used it every boss battle, it would generally last, the entire boss battle, i really dont see a downside there, plus she was pink and pretty. i cant name any other FF character ever that had an alternate form they could simply "use" at will, that doubled their offensive and magic power.
early game morph is good because it doubles what should be terras already god like damage ((if it isnt you either leveled too much before getting maduin, or didnt stick maduin on terra for every single one of her level ups ........well not every one, just untill her magic reaches 140, anything over that, resets the damage on ultima, which sucks.)) late game its good just because she looks neato uber spiffy, its not really useful at that point, since she should already be doing straight nines ((in my case if i morphed i could hit 9,999 damage with ICE-1 and unmorphed do the same with ICE-2))EDIT((to brachasaurs no less)) love her storyline, i mean damn, she is quite literally half-summon.........no other character ever gets any subrace, -THAT- cool. of course thats my opinion, you are entitled to yours This post has been edited by mooglemadness on 10th December 2004 05:18 |
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Posted: 10th December 2004 02:12
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As the people have said, Terra is probably what most people would classify as the "mainest character" (if you will), but she does seem a bit cliched at times.
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Posted: 10th December 2004 17:10
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She's the equivalent of an X-Man. She's a bioengineered freak of nature.
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I don't like her and I don't dislike her. She's definitely not my favourite. Here they are:
1. Rydia 2. Rinoa Heartilly 3. Yuna 4. Lulu 5. Rosa 6. Celes I dunno where Rydia'd be, but she's not my favourite. ![]() |
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