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So, I'm starting to find recently that most of the games that I really like are on the DS and the PSP and not on the major consoles out there. I think it's going to weigh heavily into the next time I make another main console purchase. I'll definitely wait a little bit longer and this is inclusive of Nintendo's new system. It's definitely going to be cheaper in the long run too. I just see this endless list of games that I want to play for DS and PSP and such a small list on Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3. About the only thing that could probably re-win favor for me for the Wii would be a VC release of Earthbound and Mother 3 which really surprises me that they've held out on releasing. I kind of made this two topics but whatever. This is how I'm feeling right now gaming-wise.

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Yeah same. In the past few years of gaming, I've spent more time playing games on the DS and PSP, than the X- box or PS3.

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I agree, plus the way my life is going right now I hardly play anything other than Fifa on the Xbox with friends and the occasional game on my laptop. A handheld seems like the most obvious choice for a bit more in-depth gaming. Especially now that the PSP has reached my 'too cheap not to' threshold at like £50 used. I've become maybe too cynical of new releases and consoles. It takes at least a year, I believe, for a new console to settle both in price and quality games. I find reviews, recommendations and so on are quite hard to reconcile. I might love a game and agree it's fantastic, but still hardly play it, or play a game a lot that isn't very good. I think handhelds afford a lot of freedom to play good games at the right times, without needing to sit down and invest time in the PC or console way.

Another thing that I've been thinking about is how phones have started to become a bit of a gaming powerhouse. Two of my friends have phones that can play MGS1 seamlessly, and I imagine just about any other PS1 game. The problem would be battery life and quality, but it's a niggle that I've had about whether to go for a PSP or upgrade my phone. Any thoughts?

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A handheld seems like the most obvious choice for a bit more in-depth gaming. Especially now that the PSP has reached my 'too cheap not to' threshold at like £50 used...The problem would be battery life and quality, but it's a niggle that I've had about whether to go for a PSP or upgrade my phone. Any thoughts?

I bought a used PSP several months ago, and I'm VERY happy with it. It's hackable, and mine is able to emulate both GBA and NES games. Make sure you get someone who knows what they're doing to do the actual hacking, though. I imagine that bricking a PSP that one spent one's hard-earned money on would really ruin one's day.

Anyway, in regards to the thread topic, I only play on handheld systems, except when I feel like dusting off my PS2 for some Dance Dance Revolution or borrowed PS1 games. I don't really buy games for my laptop aside from a very small handful off of Steam because I, well, have a Mac. First of all, I flat-out can't afford a home console. Second, I spend a lot of time out of the house (school and work and stuff), and portable systems allow me to both get my gaming fix and STAY out of the house. (I used to be unemployed, and staying at my parents' house, with no school, no job, and no social life was one of the most depressing times of my life. I'm probably the most socially antisocial person you'll ever meet.)

I generally have very little interest in new games anyway. I always do a fair amount of research before buying any game, old or new, because I want to get my money's and time's worth.

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I agree, plus the way my life is going right now I hardly play anything other than Fifa on the Xbox with friends and the occasional game on my laptop. A handheld seems like the most obvious choice for a bit more in-depth gaming. Especially now that the PSP has reached my 'too cheap not to' threshold at like £50 used. I've become maybe too cynical of new releases and consoles. It takes at least a year, I believe, for a new console to settle both in price and quality games. I find reviews, recommendations and so on are quite hard to reconcile. I might love a game and agree it's fantastic, but still hardly play it, or play a game a lot that isn't very good. I think handhelds afford a lot of freedom to play good games at the right times, without needing to sit down and invest time in the PC or console way.

Another thing that I've been thinking about is how phones have started to become a bit of a gaming powerhouse. Two of my friends have phones that can play MGS1 seamlessly, and I imagine just about any other PS1 game. The problem would be battery life and quality, but it's a niggle that I've had about whether to go for a PSP or upgrade my phone. Any thoughts?

I'd invest in the PSP. It is true that a lot of phones are getting games but there' still a ton of content particularly with PSP that isn't on phones and may not end up on phones. I mean anyone please beg to differ if I"m incorrect but I still think the PSP is a great choice. I've been very happy with mine.

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I just read an editorial last night in Game Informer about handheld gaming and the RPG market that goes a long with what was somewhat expressed here. It talked about the traditional RPG market has now turned to handhelds.

This post has been edited by Chewbekah on 16th June 2011 00:26

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Recently Finished: Fire Emblem: Awakening

Favorite Game: Suikoden III

I can't believe this thing has been out for about 7 years now. After the chat here I've gone for it: PSP and MGS Peace Walker for £70. I'm very happy with it. Once I'm through MGS I'm thinking FFIV, which looks really good and has two extra add-on games with it, then FFT, then Crisis Core. I've not been impressed with any of the FFVII spin offs in general, however people here and elsewhere seem to like CC and I did really enjoy Last Order, so I'm optimistic about playing it.

Just to reiterate, handhelds are definitely the most suitable platform for me at the moment, no question. In the foreseeable future I can't imagine sitting down and playing a long game on the Xbox, which is a shame because LA Noire looks like something I'd love, and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, from what I've played, is considerably better than AC2. Not enough free time at home.

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Let me preface the following by stating that I haven't really used a handheld console in over a decade.

What I love about handheld consoles is that they're not as powerful as regular consoles so the games/gamers don't have to worry about flashy graphics as much as gameplay/imagination.

What I don't like about them (as far as I know- this may have changed in the last decade) is that they're so isolating. There's no opportunity for others to participate or even spectate, and so you're pretty much closed off to the world when you play. Am I wrong on this? Are there ways to, say, do a two player game by connecting two consoles with a wire, or at least to hook up to a bigger screen so others can see you playing? One of my favorite gaming pastimes was just watching others play and commentating.

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Are there ways to, say, do a two player game by connecting two consoles with a wire, or at least to hook up to a bigger screen so others can see you playing? One of my favorite gaming pastimes was just watching others play and commentating.

It's possible to connect a PSP to the TV with an AV cable. I imagine if you wanted to play multiplayer with two PSPs you could put them both into the TV and change the settings of the TV to have two inputs on screen at once, to make it effectively a split-screen.

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Are there ways to, say, do a two player game by connecting two consoles with a wire, or at least to hook up to a bigger screen so others can see you playing?  One of my favorite gaming pastimes was just watching others play and commentating.

It's possible to connect a PSP to the TV with an AV cable. I imagine if you wanted to play multiplayer with two PSPs you could put them both into the TV and change the settings of the TV to have two inputs on screen at once, to make it effectively a split-screen.

I bet the WiiU system will eventually be able to connect with the 3DS inn that same way. I could imagine playing something like Pokemon Black and White in that fashion. I think it would change the idea of what a portable game can be.

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Well, handheld systems are generally cheaper than consoles, and also feature cheaper games--which are cheaper in part because of lower development costs.

They're also more similar to older games that I'm still very fond of, for that matter, so they logically appeal more to me.

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About the only thing that could probably re-win favor for me for the Wii would be a VC release of Earthbound and Mother 3 which really surprises me that they've held out on releasing.

Don't bet on it. I don't know about Mother 3, but I am almost certain that the main reason for not re-releasing Earthbound stateside is due to a large number of copyright issues--as in, Nintendo and Itoi's studio using lots of other people's stuff. Whether it can legally pass muster as parody is as yet untested.

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Don't bet on it. I don't know about Mother 3, but I am almost certain that the main reason for not re-releasing Earthbound stateside is due to a large number of copyright issues--as in, Nintendo and Itoi's studio using lots of other people's stuff. Whether it can legally pass muster as parody is as yet untested.

I didn't know that! But I have a pretty good idea why Mother 3 didn't get released stateside: There are transvestites in it. Nintendo of America probably doesn't want to deal with the American reaction to that.

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Don't bet on it.  I don't know about Mother 3, but I am almost certain that the main reason for not re-releasing Earthbound stateside is due to a large number of copyright issues--as in, Nintendo and Itoi's studio using lots of other people's stuff.  Whether it can legally pass muster as parody is as yet untested.

I didn't know that! But I have a pretty good idea why Mother 3 didn't get released stateside: There are transvestites in it. Nintendo of America probably doesn't want to deal with the American reaction to that.

Was there a Europe release of Mother 3? 'cause the DS doesn't have a country lock on it because my version of FFXII: Revenant Wings is the Europe version.

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Recently Finished: Fire Emblem: Awakening

Favorite Game: Suikoden III

I am really more a console person.
I would say 90% OF THE GREATEST GAMES are on consoles, or were originally on consoles, my opinion obviously.

Zelda alone would be a superb example, even when many are now on handhelds.
OOT3D even, which was released only days ago.

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I am really more a console person.
I would say 90% OF THE GREATEST GAMES are on consoles, or were originally on consoles, my opinion obviously.

What were the other 10% for you? I've got my PSP now and so far played MGS, Vice City Stories, a few PS games, and as many downloaded demos as I could find. I'm looking for those killer GREATEST GAMES right now!

...I hope you didn't mean the other 10% were PC.

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My DS Lite gets solid playing time as I have the first 6 FF's, Chrono Trigger and both Tactics Advance games on there. I get a good amount of playing time on portable systems and hope to get a PSP sometime this year.

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Was there a Europe release of Mother 3? 'cause the DS doesn't have a country  lock on it because my version of FFXII: Revenant Wings is the Europe version.

Mother 3 was never released outside of Japan. Also, I looked at the Wikipedia article out of curiosity, and it suggests that Mother 3 wasn't released outside of Japan because it came out too late in the GBA's life cycle.

On the original topic: I play my DS more than anything else, aside from all the NES I've been playing lately. I have been thinking about getting a PSP, but I don't think I'll buy a new console until I feel pushed into it by something.

I've just never been able to get absorbed in handheld games. For whatever reason I just tend to pay less attention to them. Even though I'm a college student and have considerably less time than I once did, I still find myself using PC emulators mostly. Most likely, another contributing reason is that most of the games I play today are older games that I've missed over the years, which are more convenient to play on either their original console or a PC. The only tme I really play them at all anymore is while traveling, and even then its only GBA games, since that is the most recent handheld I bought.

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Most of my gaming is on handhelds these days, and Glenn Magus Harvey pretty much summed up why that is. Handheld systems & games are less expensive than consoles, and handheld games (the ones I play, anyway) have more of the old school feel I prefer. Too, the remakes and ports of my favorite games (FF1-6, Dragon Warrior 1-3, Super Mario Bros. 3, etc.) have all been for handhelds, and the only "new" games I've played recently are Dissidia & Duodecim, so I get a lot of use out of my PSP, DS & GBA.

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A handheld seems like the most obvious choice for a bit more in-depth gaming. Especially now that the PSP has reached my 'too cheap not to' threshold at like £50 used...The problem would be battery life and quality, but it's a niggle that I've had about whether to go for a PSP or upgrade my phone. Any thoughts?

I bought a used PSP several months ago, and I'm VERY happy with it. It's hackable, and mine is able to emulate both GBA and NES games. Make sure you get someone who knows what they're doing to do the actual hacking, though. I imagine that bricking a PSP that one spent one's hard-earned money on would really ruin one's day.

Anyway, in regards to the thread topic, I only play on handheld systems, except when I feel like dusting off my PS2 for some Dance Dance Revolution or borrowed PS1 games. I don't really buy games for my laptop aside from a very small handful off of Steam because I, well, have a Mac. First of all, I flat-out can't afford a home console. Second, I spend a lot of time out of the house (school and work and stuff), and portable systems allow me to both get my gaming fix and STAY out of the house. (I used to be unemployed, and staying at my parents' house, with no school, no job, and no social life was one of the most depressing times of my life. I'm probably the most socially antisocial person you'll ever meet.)

I generally have very little interest in new games anyway. I always do a fair amount of research before buying any game, old or new, because I want to get my money's and time's worth.

@Inse: If you don't want to buy a windows license, you can also install linux, there are some good free and open games on the plattform, of course way less than on Windows.

For handheld hacking, on the one side there is the NDS where homebrew (and "backup copies") can be easily run with a simple flashcard of the size of a DS game.
On the other side, there is the openPandora console:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%28console%29

It is based on F/OSS (free/open source software) and has a few commercial games. However, a lot of emulators can be run, such as N64 and IIRC also GBA & PSX. On top of that, you have some kind of particular and easy-to-use linux system installed, you can not only run emulators and play linux games, on top of that, you can use MANY open souce applications aviable for linux, including Thunderbird, Firefox and so on. From what I have heard, to run an app you simple need to download it to the SD card (can be also done with the console of course), plug it in if it isn't, and the shortcut icon will appear in the menu / desktop.
The major downside might that it is of course not able to emulate the newest consoles, and the price of 330 € (or was it U$D?) is pretty high, even though it has a very strong hardware for handheld consoles (512 MB ram is twice or four times as much as the N3DS).
So yeah, I think one I have a steady cashflow again in my life and have secured about 2k € for you-never-know-what-happens-next purposes, this has very good chances to be my next handheld. It stands mostly for the freedom I critize at the consoles, especially PS3 and XBox360.
I want to decide what I do with my console, and not the manufacturer.
PS: Pan has also a small keyboard, two D-Pads and a touchscreen and the size is about as large as a NDS). Not to mention you can also easily watch movies or listen to music.

For mobile phones, or as we Germans call them, "Handys", a failure of translation, I won't buy an iPhone. I heard the Google Android has better hardware, plus it doesn't has this annoying applestore which is highly controlled by apple and increased prices for the license costs, but rather uses the google market, where, from my information, everyone can set up their applications such as it should be from the original internet ethics (freedoms). There is also a lot of free software aviable there, from what I have read and heard, such as an "emulator pack", even including NDS emulation.
Plus, a friend of mine told me that in the end of this year quad core han...cellies will be released on the market.

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