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Posted: 13th April 2011 18:36

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So something I've been playing towards finishing every Final Fantasy, whether it be the original or a re-release.

so far I've done I, V, VI, VII, X, XIII

Not sure which to go for from there ohmy.gif . Just not VIII, When i play that one I'm going to do a running commentary on CoN, being as scathing as I can, for the amusement of you guys. ( if anyone likes the idea that is ).

So yes, you all like to have opinions, share them: what next?

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Posted: 13th April 2011 19:36

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i.e FFIX. Hands down.
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Posted: 13th April 2011 20:53

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Quote (Blinge Odonata @ 13th April 2011 14:36)
Not sure which to go for from there ohmy.gif . Just not VIII, When i play that one I'm going to do a running commentary on CoN, being as scathing as I can, for the amusement of you guys. ( if anyone likes the idea that is ).

If you've already decided you don't like it, what's the point of even playing that one?

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Posted: 13th April 2011 22:59

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I'd say either IV or IX. They're both fantastic, and I think you'll like them.

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Posted: 13th April 2011 23:47

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I wouldn't go for IX yet, just because I think it's up at the top of the list and you might want to save it for after you play one you don't particularly like. If you're bent on playing them all, maybe do 12 next, since it's pretty polarizing and if you don't like it, at least you're getting it out of the way.

BTW, the running commentary on 8 sounds awesome and I'd definitely read/watch that.

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Posted: 14th April 2011 01:28

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II and III, only just to get them over with. II's gameplay is insane (and not the good kind), and III is sadistically difficult.

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Posted: 14th April 2011 01:51

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XII or IV

So you've completely shut out the idea of playing VIII except to make fun of it without playing first? Sounds incredibly stupid closed minded stupid.

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Posted: 14th April 2011 02:51

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When i play that one I'm going to do a running commentary on CoN, being as scathing as I can, for the amusement of you guys. ( if anyone likes the idea that is ).

I'll take the opportunity, as I usually do, to say that I like FFVIII quite a bit.
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Sounds incredibly stupid close minded stupid.

I'll second, seems rather silly to me.

In your case I would probably go with FFIX. You'll have to play FFIV at some point too, of course. Neal's idea certainly has value though.

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Posted: 14th April 2011 05:45

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Do a running commentary of all of them! Yeah I'd definitely listen to a rant about FFVIII as much as any game. Personally I don't mind FFVIII. I think it's one of the worst FF games but at the same time better than around 70% of all the other games I've played. Give it a chance! If you go into it with an open mind and a lot of free time you'll get a lot out of it, even if it's just good jokes.

If you want to play one of the best FF games then play FFVII again. If you want to play something new that's strong in every aspect of everything then play FFIX. FFXII is, yeah, polarising, Neal's exactly right. I rate it as one of my top games, certainly top 3 FF games. FFIV is a great game, nothing too demanding yet surprising at the same time. Forget all that, just play FFVIII and see what all the fuss is about.

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Posted: 14th April 2011 07:55

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XII or IV

So you've completely shut out the idea of playing VIII except to make fun of it without playing first? Sounds incredibly stupid closed minded stupid.

Oh how I wish to throw all the expletives in my vocabulary in your direction sir.

With VIII I'm more curious about why the majority of CoN seems to dislike it, my commentary would just be as amusing as possible, not disparaging it for the sake of doing so. There's still a chance I'd play and end up liking it! I'd get on with it around now but I'm slightly busy, so maybe in June.

I'm leaning towards IV, the DS remake perhaps thumbup.gif thumbdown.gif

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Posted: 14th April 2011 08:07

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I'm leaning towards IV, the DS remake perhaps thumbup.gif thumbdown.gif

This is a total thumbdown.gif for me. I am likely in the minority here but I thought the DS remake was a complete waste and didn't even bother finishing it. The original (US) SNES version still remains my favorite, but I also felt that the GBA remake did it justice as well. Also keep in mind that FF4 Complete on PSP drops in about a week, so you might want to come back to that if that's a viable option for you.

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Posted: 14th April 2011 10:37

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I'd say it's a safe bet to go with XII. Though, if you really are dedicated to playing through every single one of them you might want to get II out of the way now because it's the only FF game I consider actually a chore to play through.

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Posted: 15th April 2011 17:17

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I'm a big believer in saving the best for last, so I'd say go with FF2 or FF3 next. FF2 was fun, but the gameplay could be frustrating, since it was nearly impossible to have a well balanced character, and it took an insane amount of grinding to level up the magic spells. FF3 was fun and challenging as well, but its job system wasn't as good as FF5's, I thought. Never played FF8 or FF12, so I don't have an opinion on either. Haven't played FF9 either, but I've heard lots of good things about it, so I'd save it for later. And I'd finish with FF4, since it's one of the best games in the series, IMO.

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Posted: 15th April 2011 19:38

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XII or IV

So you've completely shut out the idea of playing VIII except to make fun of it without playing first? Sounds incredibly stupid closed minded stupid.

Oh how I wish to throw all the expletives in my vocabulary in your direction sir.

With VIII I'm more curious about why the majority of CoN seems to dislike it, my commentary would just be as amusing as possible, not disparaging it for the sake of doing so. There's still a chance I'd play and end up liking it! I'd get on with it around now but I'm slightly busy, so maybe in June.

I'm leaning towards IV, the DS remake perhaps thumbup.gif thumbdown.gif

Ah I see. That wasn't how you made it sound in your original post, but that like a decent enough idea.

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Posted: 15th April 2011 21:53

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XII or IV

So you've completely shut out the idea of playing VIII except to make fun of it without playing first? Sounds incredibly stupid closed minded stupid.

Oh how I wish to throw all the expletives in my vocabulary in your direction sir.

With VIII I'm more curious about why the majority of CoN seems to dislike it, my commentary would just be as amusing as possible, not disparaging it for the sake of doing so. There's still a chance I'd play and end up liking it! I'd get on with it around now but I'm slightly busy, so maybe in June.

I'm leaning towards IV, the DS remake perhaps thumbup.gif thumbdown.gif

Ah I see. That wasn't how you made it sound in your original post, but that like a decent enough idea.

Oh, I thought the same as they did, since you used the word scathing. I personally liked VIII. IMO, it's not on the level of the games it is in between (VII and IX), but I think the anti-VIII hatred here is exaggerated.

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Posted: 17th April 2011 01:25

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Re original topic:

You can take a break by trying one of the side-series FF games, such as any of the FF Legends, FF Adventure, or FF Mystic Quest.

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Posted: 17th April 2011 10:01

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Oh, I thought the same as they did, since you used the word scathing.

Oh yes sorry, I tend to wield the English language with all the subtlety of a battleaxe. Fair enough happy.gif

Sweety, I appreciate your faith bro, but I doubt I could keep it interesting for myself or you guys if i wrote while playing all of them.
Glenn: good idea, although I've recently been through Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger which left me hungering for more. Then I tried Crystal Chronicles...Which gave me some erm, "gamer's indigestion" shall we say..

What about the GBA version of II then? As people seem to be advocating the chronological approach, and to be honest I'm dying to put my DS to use.


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Posted: 18th April 2011 02:21

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Oh, I thought the same as they did, since you used the word scathing.

Oh yes sorry, I tend to wield the English language with all the subtlety of a battleaxe. Fair enough happy.gif

Sweety, I appreciate your faith bro, but I doubt I could keep it interesting for myself or you guys if i wrote while playing all of them.
Glenn: good idea, although I've recently been through Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger which left me hungering for more. Then I tried Crystal Chronicles...Which gave me some erm, "gamer's indigestion" shall we say..

What about the GBA version of II then? As people seem to be advocating the chronological approach, and to be honest I'm dying to put my DS to use.

Well, there's two remakes for FFIV that you can play on the DS, the GBA remake, and the DS remake. I guess that depends on whether you want to play the original version. The DS version adds 3D scenes.

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Posted: 18th April 2011 02:45

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Quote (Glenn Magus Harvey @ 17th April 2011 01:25)
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You can take a break by trying one of the side-series FF games, such as any of the FF Legends, FF Adventure, or FF Mystic Quest.

Don't forget all the Tactics games, X-2, and the entire Compilation of FFVII.

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Quote (Glenn Magus Harvey @ 17th April 2011 01:25)
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You can take a break by trying one of the side-series FF games, such as any of the FF Legends, FF Adventure, or FF Mystic Quest.

Oooh, good recommendation. I really enjoyed Legend 3. The transformation system is pretty cool, but then I realized that my characters were much better as basic humans/mutants.
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Posted: 19th April 2011 10:46

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Well, there's two remakes for FFIV that you can play on the DS, the GBA remake, and the DS remake. I guess that depends on whether you want to play the original version. The DS version adds 3D scenes.

Well my recent purchase of handheld has made the decision for me guys, I'm going with the 3D remake of IV on the DS. I would have stayed true to the original and played it in SNES era graphics but having played V and VI like that, its's enough for me. IV in this form has also been highly recommended to me by friends.

Thankyou very much for the feedback and advice, all of you happy.gif . VIII will receive my attention sooner than it would have, as people seem to like the idea of a commentary ( in text on this forum most probably, I do love to write). Possibly early summer.

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Posted: 20th April 2011 02:29

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Interestingly the DS version has a higher overall score than any other version, including the original. Proof I suppose that most of the strong criticism comes from FF purists and gaming nostalgics.

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Posted: 20th April 2011 23:38

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Interestingly the DS version has a higher overall score than any other version, including the original. Proof I suppose that most of the strong criticism comes from FF purists and gaming nostalgics.


Or maybe it proves that the "real critics" are only interested in graphics. Because it's basically the same game and story. It's just a graphics change.

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Posted: 21st April 2011 00:05

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Theres some added features I've been noticing and enjoying heavily. Just little changes that convene to really improve the experience for me

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Posted: 21st April 2011 00:16

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Theres some added features I've been noticing and enjoying heavily. Just little changes that convene to really improve the experience for me

Or maybe the critics noticed that... sorry Sherick...

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Posted: 21st April 2011 01:28

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Haha no problem. Being in the same situation as you and looking for the best way to play that game, I can say that if graphic adjustments are the only main difference, I have no problem picking up the DS version. I know it's taboo for old-school gamers to say it, but graphics do add to the game.

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Posted: 29th April 2011 08:17

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Posted: 29th April 2011 10:40

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I am ´personally not a fan of FF I - II, but I know some of those boards are. In my eyes they simple have an outdated gameplay which is worse than the old graphic for the game. I havebought the GBA version of those about two years ago and only played FF I once and it wasn't even such a joy for me (I have played both games before with the PSX version years ago).

I don't think it is wrong to start with the best ones - Once you have gotten to the not-so-good FFs you might want to re-play the best of the series before you have tried the other games.

Aside from FF II I only know FF IX from the games you haven't played and I highly recommend it. It is different frmo FF VII & FF VIII mainly because it takes some things back to the roots - The story takes place in the dark age and like in the games before VII you are commanding four characters again in the heat of the battle. The characters have more their own roles than in FF V, VII & VIII, but still have some freedom to customize them. I guess it can be a bit compared to FF VI & the espers.
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Posted: 29th April 2011 16:45

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I don't think it is wrong to start with the best ones - Once you have gotten to the not-so-good FFs you might want to re-play the best of the series before you have tried the other games.

I agree with you. It is a lot like reading literature. You start with the classics, because they are the reason that literature is important. And the great FF's are the reason Square is important as a game design company. Don't skip over the others though, because people might be wrong about their quality.

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Posted: 29th April 2011 20:34
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I'm a huge FFIV fan: I played it enough as a kid that I can proudly say the game was partially responsible for my learning to read. I know it's too late, but I would play a version of the game more faithful to the original before I play the DS one. FFIV DS is a great overhaul of a great game, and I'm happy that you're playing it regardless, but I would play SNES hardtype or (if you don't want to deal with roms/importing) the GBA version instead. FFIV is certainly good enough to play twice.

The DS version will not give you as much of a picture of the impact FFIV had on later games, which I think would be part of the experience for someone playing through the entire series. Graphics and sound overhauls are not a big deal to me, and I found the voice acting to be worth avoiding. On the other hand, FFIV DS isn't just a graphical overhaul of the original. A lot of new stuff was added, and a lot of stuff added for the PSX/GBA versions was re-added. I really didn't feel like messing with the minigames, but the new content is worth checking out.

So yeah, I don't know. I guess it doesn't much matter which one you play as long as you're playing FFIV.

In other news: I didn't think FFVIII was so bad. Certainly a let-down if you compare it to VI and VII, but come on.
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