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Just out of curiosity:

How does a house attack you in ff7?

There is a big freaky house that casts magic in ff7 in midgar on the way to the playground.

FF8:NORG!

If there is more where are they? i didn't see any more.

Does he even excercise? what about eat?

If you encounter any other unusual creatures you wish to add,please do.

I'm sure i may add a few here and there.

FF6:vaporite:WOW that must be some dangerous vapor.

Just how is that animated? is there some sort of parasite inside?

Mag roader:Is it all mechanical? or is it also including the rider of that motorcycle? and how did he fuse with his motorcycle? is he like some sort of android now?

Cactrots:what are they? what do they eat? and if they are plants how are they able to move around and have feet?

Slimes:all sorts of games including final fantasy but also dragon quest series:How do they reproduce? what do they eat? and do they have hearts and such? how is that possible to have organs?

ff4 bestiary question:

How are any enemies able to live on the moon when its a dead piece of rock? how are the lunarians able to live there? it looks like it has no atmosphere.


This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 6th April 2011 21:06

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That house enemy is more like a sort of turtle, just (for some reason) inside a house rather than a shell. It's obviously the turtle-like part of the monster that attacks you.

If you mean any more creatures like NORG, wasn't he a Shumi? In which case, there's a whole village full of them, along with the Moombas. And judging by the size of him, I don't think he could even get out of that thing to exercise! Those garden faculty members probably chucked him a bucket of fish every now and then.

Vaporite - Hey, vapors can be dangerous. Could be some poisonous gas.

MagRoader is probably the result of magitek experiments since they're in the magitek research facility. God knows what they were trying to accomplish with it.

Cactuars! Well they're just cacti that somehow move. Maybe it's some evil curse put on them that they shall forever wander around deserts, running away from any human they come across, while laughing at them with their silly dance. As for what they eat, just look at them in real life, they live in deserts just fine. They're just good at retaining water.

Slimes reproduce as soon as you attack them. They always seem to split in two every time you slice them so that's my guess!

Maybe the lunarians don't breathe oxygen? Same with the monsters that live there.

There's tonnes of weird monsters in Final Fantasy games, anything that seems to be an inanimate object but attacks you anyway. Those brain pods in VII that are like giant tea pots with an arm and a head, Dorky Face from the same game looks like a shuttlecock with pink ribbons.

In fact, VII seems to have quite a few. Grangalan, which was like one of those russian dolls. Armstrong from IX, basically a living boat that fires its cannon at you. Belhelmel from VIII is weird too, like a bi polar swingy saw thing.

et cetera!

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FF8:NORG!

If there is more where are they? i didn't see any more.

There's an entire side quest about them.

This post has been edited by Sherick on 6th April 2011 23:44

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FF8:NORG!

If there is more where are they? i didn't see any more.

There's an entire side quest about them.

NORG is a shumi. There is, like Sherick mentioned, an entire sidequest devoted to them, but aside from this sidequest they're generally not seen. The party meets two others in Balamb Garden during the entire NORG incident. You may not have made the connection simply because NORG is a pretty darn obese shumi.

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I'll make an actual response once I've thought of a few

This post has been edited by Death Penalty on 7th April 2011 04:13

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All those questions are actually interesting. I think the point is though that there isn't answers. You can use your imagination. Why don't you make your own beastiary? Come up with reasons for their peculiarities. You can even publish it in the creations batch.

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One answer to all your questions: magic.

One thing that strikes me as unusual are slimes:

One day i was playing the online version of dragon quest on byond and i was asking another guy how slimes can have organs.

We were grouped so i was making chit chat and he said:maybe they have liquefied organs.

I never heard of anything like that,i mean:WOW!!

As for lunarians:They would need some sort of protection against uv rays.
Sure i've heard about some creatures at the bottom of the sea even living near volcano with heat so extreme that it would kill us and pressure,but earth is relatively well protected against uv rays because if not,we would die.

Uv rays is what causes cancer to us,and sometimes if the poles shift we feel em more and its also why on the moon and on mars there is not much life at all except maybe bacteria buried under the crust protected against uv rays,and they also are fitted with protection as well.

There is a scorpion:palaemnersus:its able to distinguish the amount of radiation given out so it can know where not to go as a danger sign but much better than our senses.

Going back:Lunarians in ff4 i don't see how they survive without oxygen and being bombarded by uv rays and also since there is no oxygen,the temperature would make extreme leaps from 50 degrees or more to below 0 temperature.

http://www.universetoday.com/19623/temperature-of-the-moon/

No atmosphere means extreme variations in weather and all too extreme for us to survive.I honestly don't know how cecil and the team is able to walk on the surface on the moon.

sure cecil is a lunarian and so is golbez,but rosa kain rydia and edge? how?


This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 7th April 2011 10:41

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Overall I think characters might look like humans but they'll have a completely different biological setup. In FFX I had no problem with the fact that humans could breath underwater because they might have gills on their back or they can just breathe without gills, or can hold their breath for a huge amount of time. They could even not breathe at all for all we know. It's the same with FFIV, the moon might not be anything like our moon or the characters might not breathe or have any problems with subzero temperatures. There's an explanation as long as we don't look at the FF worlds in identical terms to ours.

The problem is when there's an established limit or precedent and the game is inconsistent with it. For example in Advent Children when fighting is fairly similar to what we'd expect, but then all of a sudden characters can do huge jumps and can float in the air without any magic or materia. That's annoying.

As for all the monsters, yeah I just accept that there's some story behind all of them. Cefca mentioned the Armstrongs. I didn't think much of them at the time but if there has to be a reason I'd imagine they could be ships from an old war between X and Y that have been cursed, or something along those lines.

So basically I look at this the exact same way as BlitzSage, finalalias and Cefca.

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Thats because its a fantasy world and the fantasy world defies logic.

You have to completely abandon logic because its impossible and so fantastic that it can't really happen,but then again:thats why its called fantasy.

Even if ff4 tried to throw an explanation:i doubt it would matter since it would only make it more ridiculous.

Its probably better to not dwell too much into things as it ruins the perspective of the game.

i was merely questioning is all.


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These questions are one reason why I like FF9's bestiary so much. They did a really good job keeping everything consistent throughout and nothing at all was mechanical except possibly Ark.

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Overall I think characters might look like humans but they'll have a completely different biological setup. In FFX I had no problem with the fact that humans could breath underwater because they might have gills on their back or they can just breathe without gills, or can hold their breath for a huge amount of time. They could even not breathe at all for all we know. It's the same with FFIV, the moon might not be anything like our moon or the characters might not breathe or have any problems with subzero temperatures. There's an explanation as long as we don't look at the FF worlds in identical terms to ours.

The problem is when there's an established limit or precedent and the game is inconsistent with it. For example in Advent Children when fighting is fairly similar to what we'd expect, but then all of a sudden characters can do huge jumps and can float in the air without any magic or materia. That's annoying.

I think you bring up an interesting point, that an element in a game may not be possible in our physical world but can still be accepted as something that is possible. In order to be believable, something doesn't need to follow all the rules of our world; it just needs to be reasonably possible. To say that humans in a very water-oriented world who have been playing a sport that requires extended periods of time underwater almost exclusively for over a thousand years have developed the ability to remain underwater without breathing for periods of five minutes, for instance, doesn't trouble me at all. But I think there certainly is a line.

On a seperate note, I love that smile enemies are called Flan. I love flan, and I think that's fantastic

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Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 7th April 2011 19:28)

Thats because its a fantasy world and the fantasy world defies logic.

You have to completely abandon logic because its impossible and so fantastic that it can't really happen,but then again:thats why its called fantasy.

Nope. No that's not it at all.

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Its true though.

there have been examples like:

Vaan and what was her name? 2 desert dwelling albinos in FFXII who would have burned to a crisp.

With their skin they couldn't go out in the sun.

The moon has no atmosphere so therefor you can't breathe in ff4.

Perhaps this one is easier to look past:cloud breathes underwater and goes into an underwater submarine since the boat lands and its still dry because its intact,just underwater.

That is,if you look past the high pressure from so much water.

The thing is:water weighs and if you put enough water,the weight crushes you to death.


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Vaan and what was her name? 2 desert dwelling albinos in FFXII who would have burned to a crisp.

With their skin they couldn't go out in the sun.

They don't look albino to me. In fact, they're relatively tan, maybe not as tan as you'd expect from somewhere who essentially is shirtless all the time, but as good as anybody else in fiction who is supposed to live in the desert.

This post has been edited by Sherick on 8th April 2011 07:53

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Life goes on, it surely will,
Without me and I wonder:
Will I ever see light again?

Life goes on...

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Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 7th April 2011 19:28)

Thats because its a fantasy world and the fantasy world defies logic.

You have to completely abandon logic because its impossible and so fantastic that it can't really happen,but then again:thats why its called fantasy.

Nope. No that's not it at all.

You have to suspend your disbelief and simply enjoy it then, sweety...

I know someone who picks apart every piece of fiction, be it games or films, to say how it wouldn't work and its ridiculous. How that guy has any fun ever is beyond me.

This post has been edited by Blinge Odonata on 8th April 2011 09:02

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Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 8th April 2011 08:26)

Its true though.

No it's not. Fantasy doesn't necessarily mean impossible. Vaan and the others might have skin that doesn't burn like ours.

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Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 8th April 2011 07:26)

That is,if you look past the high pressure from so much water.

The thing is:water weighs and if you put enough water,the weight crushes you to death.

Only when you go down to a certain depth, and the Gelnika doesn't seem to be that deep down in the ocean to me.

There are plenty of good ones. Final Fantasy VI and VII are my favorites, but IV, IX, and X all are pretty good as well.

If youre at all interested in RPGs Id recommend checking them out.

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Quote (SapApponnaver @ 8th April 2011 23:23)

There are plenty of good ones. Final Fantasy VI and VII are my favorites, but IV, IX, and X all are pretty good as well.

If youre at all interested in RPGs Id recommend checking them out.

I played all of those actually.

You should try the ultima series starting with:ultima underworld and moving on to ultima 4 then ultima 6 and ultima 7.

I haven't really played ultima 6 much and never played ultima 4 but ultima underworld is da BOMB!!

One thing that amazed me is how many unusual creatures you get to talk to like:ghouls and goblins and even ghosts.

Things you normally would thing are monsters sometimes aren't in this game and you can even do quests.

Another thing i like is how you can map out the whole dungeon and have HUGE!! amounts of areas to explore,and i mean:HUGE!!

All the levels are huge and you have to leave markers on your map to know where you have been what is in that level and where you left it,because if not:that musical instrument you need to finish the game will be somewhere you would never think to look and it will drive you insane.

Ultima 7:This game is great.

Its an open world and i have been exploring and its quite fun that you have so much to do.

The only thing that irks me are the key bugs such as:the butcher's key in the town near britania for the poison quest.I picked up the key and it doesn't work on the lock.Another thing that also could help:In game tutorial about what those symbols mean for the ai control in the menu.

I absolutely hate it when my characters run away and drop their weapon and armor,i seriously wish they wouldn't do that and i hate that implement.

next:Ability to open each character's paper doll seperately and perhaps a hotkey for the stats so if i press it 8 times i can see who needs what food?

Ultima 8:i don't know why people hate this game so much,its a great game.
I like how you have to go to masters of the art at certain areas in the game and become a worshipper of the earth god to learn necromancy or:going to a certain area to learn fire magic.


I mean:wouldn't you think:Awesome!! if you could summon an army of undead? or an army of trolls to attack guards and whatever you wanted?

I think its really well implemented personally,its just less of an rpg and more of an adventure game.

Downsides:The jumping can be downright horrible.
Yes i know all about it:you try to jump to another side and instead walk into the water and drown to death and become fish food.

Puzzles:they can be sometimes so aggravating and difficult to figure out,that you will not know what to do at times.

Square games:

There are other games to try from square other than ff6 and ff7:

parasite eve 1 and 2
secret of evermore(love this game,absolutely love it)
I would recommend this non rpg game that is still really good in story and deep characters:illusion of gaia.

Its enix since it still counts since enix bought square and formed squeenix.

Secret of mana is a good game decent gameplay very campy feel,but i wouldn't call it the best since its a rather simplistic story about an evil emperor wanting to conquer the world and your job is to call upon nature.

The dialogue is also as simple as it can get.

Personally,i think secret of mana is overrated a bit.
I'm not saying that secret of evermore be any better in story,its not,but i do think the dialogue is more clever just because of the cheesy sci fi references which i find entertaining to read.

In terms of gameplay:i'd say that evermore can be a bit repetitive just because you have to farm cash for ingredients and this can be really tedious and secret of mana has slightly better ratio being far less tedious.


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