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Posted: 27th February 2010 04:52
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 ?World of Ruin Description Are you a Final Fantasy Fan? Are you a fan of Final Fantasy VI and wish for a place to "finally" be made for you and other FFVI fans? Do you wish of a nice, breezy place to chat and have fun? Well, World of Ruin (Or WoR) is the place for you fans! It's the only FFVI community (EDITED out. I didn't mean this forum >.<) alive right now to be dedicated to FFVI, a great FF title, which earned awards! At WoR, you can chat, post images, fanfiction and things like that and talk about FFVI, learn new things you've never known, see exclusive scans that are very hard to see and see them translated. WoR needs your help right now, she needs to grow into a big, strong forum! She's a baby right now, but she is pretty strong! Now, if you are thinking "what else would we do on a FFVI forum?" well, there are other places. Like Fan Club zones, other FF zones, smaller but there and there are video game forums, music forums, graphic forums, a spam zone and a roleplaying zone! WoR also has her own Wiki! Which is under construction, but she will be viewable soon and will get to have members join and edit the stuff they want and have a further place to discuss FFVI or any other FF titles. So, please, help me help WoR and point fans and FF fans to this forum! I'm sure if you gave it a shot, you would love the forum! ------- The theme, right now, is only one. It's blue and black, but completely made to match the "old" FF style. If you click the banner or the URL, you will see what I mean. And in the future, there will be even more themes ranging from anime, games, books, movies and other FF titles! Anything! Make a suggestion, and it'll be done! Site URL: World of Ruin? Post count/ Member 5 members, 67 posts, 12 threads. New members are welcomed! :x3 This post has been edited by MagitekElite on 28th February 2010 05:02 -------------------- |
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Posted: 27th February 2010 20:36
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Quote (MagitekElite @ 27th February 2010 05:52) (Besides Narshe Caves, which is almost dead....) Assuming you mean here (can't find much else on Google for that string, other than various other forums where the exact same advert has gone out - perhaps you wanted people not to find CoN from your post, but unfortunately we're already #2 on Google for that term thanks to you), I can't imagine what you hope to gain from this post if we're "almost dead". Nor do I understand how a forum with no apparent attached content is expected to do any better than this one based on sending adverts out on a few forums. I'll leave the link up since it's technically within the rules as you are an otherwise active member, though the commentary we've always made on this sort of thing before is "Do something to make it stand out". At the moment, you have a bunch of forums with nobody in them and a bunch of advertisements. Why should people go to WoR rather than CoN? What purpose does it serve? What niche does it fill? Looking at your recent posts in the Kefka thread, why would this person who posted the FF6 interview you refer to repost it there rather than anywhere else? |
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Posted: 28th February 2010 05:01
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Oh no, a Fanfniction.net forum (was a while ago that I created this thread, I copied and pasted sorry). It was, I guess, named after this site. I didn't mean this one >.>
I actually wrote this before finding out about this forum. I searched up Narshe Caves and found this place instead of the FF.Net forum and I asked if my sister was here and she said yes, I joined and a admin asked about my sister and deleted her account. They removed it 'cause it died so I decided to bring the fans over to my forum. I'm sorry, I didn't mean this forum. I love this forum ^.^ I didn't mean to upset anyone, It was a different forum on FF.net and it was rather large, but the admin decided to shut it down, re-named it and gave it up to my friend, who turned it into something else and probably removed it... I am sorry, really.  Oh, and if you don't believe be about the forum, I can show you a link to the "new" version of it.... -------------------- |
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Posted: 28th February 2010 05:14
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I find it deeply ironic that you decided to name your new forum World of Ruin. Check this page, Caves of Narshe 2 headline, 3rd paragraph.
And honestly, your big talk isn't really backed up at all with anything enticing. I'll stay here, thanks. -------------------- |
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Posted: 28th February 2010 05:47
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I named it that because "World of Balance" was taken. I also held a vote up among FFVI fans I met on FF.net. I never even knew about that website until just now, when you pointed it out to me. I'm not allowed to name a FFVI forum after something in the game because there was a website named World of Ruin before, which is most likely dead now?
My big talk? What are you talking about? What exactly did I say wrong? I explained what I meant about the "Caves of Narshe" thing. Look, this Zetaboards thing use to be called "Caves of Narshe" it was created because of a small forum on Fanfiction.net that was destroyed because of the lack of users coming. So the owner of the forum on FF.net gave the now newly named "Desert Rose" forum to my friend and my friend died off the forum after completely reamping the forum, renaming it and deleting everything. She gave me the forum, but it died off and I decided to start a new one just about FFVI. That's, what I meant by "Caves of Narshe" I just recently found out about this forum >.> -------------------- |
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Posted: 28th February 2010 05:53
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Look, I'm not trying to put you down in a serious way. I just find your choice of name amusing and ironic; I'm not suggesting that it's a bad name or anything.
And for saying things like "exclusive scans" and "she is pretty strong," well, I don't see any scans I haven't seen before nor do I see real evidence of strength. I also don't like forum RPs and have a near-hatred of spam zones (one site that I used to really like has been poisoned to death by the growth and influence of its spam zone), which don't appeal to me. Basically, your forum seems to be a very nice little just-created forum, but I'm not interested in joining it. -------------------- |
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Posted: 28th February 2010 05:58
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Well, I thought the name was pretty nice, seemed dark. Plus, World of Balance came before Ruin and I wasn't exactly sure if the world returned back to normal.
I'm sorry if I upset anyone, I wasn't trying to, honestly. 'Okay, you don't have to join, I don't mind  Thank you for the feedback though.  @Scans thing: I'm in the process of setting up the Wiki first, then I'll post all the information I had and have gathered thanks to a friendly member here, and will post it  This post has been edited by MagitekElite on 28th February 2010 05:59 -------------------- |
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Posted: 1st March 2010 13:42
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I wouldn't worry about it. The World of Ruin isn't exactly what I'd call a "trademarkable" term in the Final Fantasy VI Fan 'o Sphere since it's an official phrase used in the game related materials. It could naturally occur to anyone to use for various puposes. If it's no longer in use as the main title of a site, which seems to be the case, I'd call it fair game for anybody to pick up the term for the use. This is because when the original product has ceased to exist, so has the odds for most potential brand name confusion. The name does have a nice ring to it.
The phrase The Narshe Caves is similarly geared and I wouldn't be surprised if several dozen sites use that phrase for one purpose or another. I can see where the confusion came from due to the current setting, especially since some people can blunder up grammar pretty horridly but I can see it as a clearly innocent mistake because as a ploy, it'd be ludicrous for a variety of obvious reasons. I think the strong reaction was jumped to partially due to some site insecurity issues I probably shouldn't be mentioning which I've seen being voiced over the IRC channel. Anyway regardless of the reason, the manner looks like its been cleared up in good faith, so it hardly matters now, right? >_> My first thought of note is that not much compulsion to join will be garnered here as of yet. This is because of the fact of the matter is that the established community here has nothing new to gain from it really. Without an already strong community, we have little inspiration to add another venue for more of the same. If you want more members, I think you have to diversify yourself a bit by appealing to people who do not already have a place to talk about the site's thematic concept and central focus. As for the site itself: I think it's quite nicely designed. Your main banner is rather beautiful, the colors don't clash too much or hurt the eye, the banner is nice and how the in game icons are used adds a nice bit of nostalgic touch. I think the ones you've chosen are rather well suited to the purposes which you've designated for them actually and make good use of associative thinking. For example: The empire's logo which adorns their banners are also topping off the banners of your subforums; the chests used as bullet points for the subforum bullet-points may be symbolic of clicking the link and receiving the contents; gambling often goes hand in hand with statistics, hence the roulette table; logged in members could be imagined to be piloting the magitek armor and the ice? Well the ice just seems to match the blue really, at least so far as I can tell but that's no crime. Not everything can have meaning after-all While I'm on this note, is it possible to make the chest into a link? If so some very basic CSS could be implemented to have it open up while you're entering the subforums, I think. Concerning the layout, your topics are rather spread out. A frequently recurrent web design principle is that you don't want too many sub-forums until a need actually arises for them. It makes the conversation happening seem rather more spartan than it really is, because it's dispersed over so much area. Try taking a few bags of frozen peas for example and pour them into a jar. Looking directly at it, there seem to be a lot right? But if you were to spill it on the floor and they spread all around, you'd only see one or two at a time, greatly diminishing their feeling of presence. Another thought is that pointless separations make things terribly inconvenient to the user; do people really want to navigate sort through what essentially amounts to a bunch of mostly empty folders that're dedicated to only mildly different tangents? It's more work for moderator and user alike for little benefit. Reasons like this are why most popular sites like CoN start off small then expand as needed. Keep in mind that I'm not saying that more subsections are bad, it's just that I'd wait until such a topic is proven to be disproportionately popular with your community to branch it off from its main subject at hand. While I have little idea of your criteria to give many specifics, for as an example of what I mean, I see little need to Eblan Dessert, Midgar Slums and Pulse separated from one another when they all concern the main Final Fantasy series for off topic games: I'd abridge them until the point comes where one game or era of games becomes predominately domineering of the subforum, then I'd branch whichever that was out from the rest. It might take a bit of extra work later on, when your site catches on but it hasn't yet reached that scale yet and you need to facilitate the process of it doing so. Essentially, you want to treat it as a work in progress for now with the current version being a final vision left to realize. At the moment, I'd suggest a main series section named after a Final Fantasy I region (preferential treatment given merely because the rest wouldn't exist without it) and maybe changing the Dissida forum into a general spinoff section named after a setting used in FFT or Crystal Chronicals or something of the like. For the latter, I'd recommend against use of Ivalice because that's the obvious name you'd use if you wanted a "Team Ivalice" subform specifically. The focus of your site, as of current is Final Fantasy VI after-all, not Dissidia or general Final Fantasy games after-all so their presence can and probably should be downplayed as much as possible to give it the spotlight. On a final note, you may want to create a frontsite which links to the invision-free forum. With adequate information and content, it makes a site seem more complete. Also you might be able to get an easier to remember URL for the frontsite such as WoR.frontsitehost.com or frontsitehost.com/worldofruin . Anyway, that's pretty much all I have to say. Good luck! This post has been edited by Tonepoet on 1st March 2010 14:10 -------------------- |
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Posted: 1st March 2010 20:18
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Quote (Tonepoet @ 1st March 2010 14:42) I think the strong reaction was jumped to partially due to some site insecurity issues I probably shouldn't be mentioning which I've seen being voiced over the IRC channel. If you think you shouldn't mention it, why mention it? That said, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about anyway. MagitekElite: thank you for clearing up the reference confusion. Nevertheless, the "World of Ruin" name is bound to raise a few chuckles from folks who know CoN history - there's no harm in that. Honestly, if you can get a good community together, I'm happy for you, but all I'm saying (and others are echoing) is that I've never seen that happen without some hook bigger than "Here's a set of forums, please post in it." As far as what you have goes, it's pretty nicely put together, but here's one suggestion from experience - you've a lot of separate forums for at the moment, fairly little traffic. It might be worth considering condensing to fewer subforums until there's enough traffic to justify splitting things out for ease of finding what you want. With a low volume of traffic, many subdivisions just make it harder to read everything that is there. |
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Posted: 2nd March 2010 03:55
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I will take your suggestions, TonePoet and lessen the amount of sub-forums, this feedback will defiantly help. I agree a lot on the "Dissidia and spinoffs thing" it'll help make the form look better. Also, I was thinking about giving it a homepage that would update on FF news, but I don't money to get websites. I'll search for a free, good one ^.^
Thank you about the theme compliment, I'm still working on a few more buttons and another theme, encase people would like a lighter skin. Would putting the Eblan Desert, Midgar Slums and the others into one, help clean up the forum? Quote On a final note, you may want to create a frontsite which links to the invision-free forum. With adequate information and content, it makes a site seem more complete. Also you might be able to get an easier to remember URL for the frontsite such as WoR.frontsitehost.com or frontsitehost.com/worldofruin . Anyway, that's pretty much all I have to say. Good luck! You mean the homepage that links to the forum, right? I could try and shorten it down if I'm allowed and it's not already taken where-ever I go.  @Tiddles: You're welcome. I should have remembered that part and explained it, but when I wrote this, I had no idea a FFVI forum already existed. And when I found this site and my sister explained, I was too shocked and happy to remember and then I just completely forgot about it.... And thank you for your feedback. Since it's like what TonePoet suggested, I will defiantly shorten the forum down by a lot ------- On the Forum news. We now have 9 members, 283 posts and around 50-60 threads. We're growing pretty fast, here's hoping it continues. http://z10.invisionfree.com/World_of_Ruin/index.php?  This post has been edited by MagitekElite on 9th March 2010 04:56 -------------------- |
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Posted: 9th March 2010 04:55
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Update!
I'm glad to announce our newest members! I'm currently working on the banner, but that shouldn't take too long Members: 14 Posts: 467 Threads: 60-70. Please join WoR! I know you'll like her if you give her a chance! http://z10.invisionfree.com/World_of_Ruin/index.php? -------------------- |
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Posted: 2nd January 2011 04:43
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Wow...I haven't updated this thread for a while. Jeez, I guess time just flies! >.<
Well, I got a domain name! I will be saving up to purchase, hopefully, the domain name of just "World of Ruin". We have converted the board (everything is still there) over to Simple Machines, a very beautiful software that has lots of things to add. The software is constantly being updated and the forum is being enhanced more and more! One of my moderators is working on a chat channel, I think that's what they are called, to go with the forum. All previous links in this thread have been corrected to the new URL so people aren't confused. Its come to my attention however, that another FF6 Forum under "World of Ruin" for an FF6 forum has come into light. Please know it isn't the original named forum "World of Ruin". My forum is far older (was on Simple Machine before this around 2005/2006, but it was a little faulty until recently (crashed a LOT lol), so I went to the freeware known as Zetaboards) and is the original. A theme that will look like the Zetaboards theme is currently being made. Like I said in the last post about the banners. I have finished the graphics for the themes, there is just one more step: coding. I don't know any coding, but I have begun to learn to make the themes so everyone will enjoy them. Installing and changing themes is incredibly easy in Simple Machines and very, very fast. You can have bigger avatars, sigs and everything. It really is a better software than the freeware I was using before. lol Current amount of posts: 2148 Posts Current amount of topics: 132 Topics Current Members: 41 Members Our two newest members are: 1: flyingpie099 2: Rassilon! New features: A flag system to match where you come from. Reputation A lot of new themes Cool new smilies! A AWESOME profile feature that I'm sure you guys would just love. You can do everything with it! I mean everything! New staff A "soon to be" when I get a graphics card to run Photoshop/GIMP, banners that match the themes! Which will be recolored of course. World of Ruin Its a great place for FF fans, especially if you are a fan of the older games, like FF6 and FF5 -------------------- |
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Posted: 2nd January 2011 05:14
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Don't get me wrong, no offense intended, but... I always thought it was CoN's policy to do away with advertisements as spam. I'm sure it's a fine site, but the implication was like, "CoN sucks, so leave it and try this site."
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Posted: 2nd January 2011 05:31
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What do you mean? It was allowed before and the thread wasn't taken down, so I thought it was still okay.
 I didn't mean any implication against this site. If you're talking about the first post, then I tried to explain about it... People could join both I know if there were seventy FF6 forums or seventy Pern forums, I'd join each and everyone of them.  I just love FF6 a lot and wanted to to own a forum for it.  This post has been edited by MagitekElite on 2nd January 2011 05:32 -------------------- |
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Posted: 2nd January 2011 05:46
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Quote (MagitekElite @ 2nd January 2011 01:31) What do you mean? It was allowed before and the thread wasn't taken down, so I thought it was still okay. I didn't mean any implication against this site. If you're talking about the first post, then I tried to explain about it... People could join both I know if there were seventy FF6 forums or seventy Pern forums, I'd join each and everyone of them. I just love FF6 a lot and wanted to to own a forum for it. That's cool, it's just that, well, I think the reason people lashed out at you is that you seemed to be promoting your site while badmouthing ours. -------------------- |
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Posted: 2nd January 2011 05:57
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Oh, but I never meant this site before it was pointed out. I completely forgot to edit the first post before I posted it.
I never meant to badmouth this site, or offend anyone, really. I'm terribly sorry if I had done any of that, that wasn't my intentions at all. -------------------- |
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Posted: 2nd January 2011 07:48
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You never badmouthed us and as a contributing member here you're allowed to promote your site. You didn't do anything wrong, don't worry!
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