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Seriously, I didn't think twice about it until I read about it online.

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What do you mean? That it's made out of belts?

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Yeah. I had no clue.

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I also didn't notice. I was distracted by...other things...

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I always noticed that, and I laughed. It was during Nomura's "belts, zippers, and chains" phase, and I just was amused that he made her entire skirt out of belts. Plus, her evasion is somehow high.

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I also didn't notice. I was distracted by...other things...

I dunno, I'd say any part of Lulu is equally distracting, especially since you can see a little leg through those belts...though X and VIII are far from my favourites in the series, between Lulu and Quistis I admit they have the most attractive women...

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It was during Nomura's "belts, zippers, and chains" phase

What do you mean phase?

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I've actually heard that Nomura designed this explicitly to troll the character animators.

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That actually sounds like the kind of thing I'd do if the animators ticked me off enough.



I am such a sadist.

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I've actually heard that Nomura designed this explicitly to troll the character animators.

He does that. He's stated that in VIII he specifically added the feathered collar on Squall to challenge them.

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What do you mean phase?

I mean there was a period of time when Nomura used lots and lots of belts, zippers, and chains in his character designs. You don't see them in VII, but you start to in VIII with Squall and to a lesser extent Zell. In X it's in full swing with Lulu, and if you look at Kingdom Hearts, it's there too.

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I mean there was a period of time when Nomura used lots and lots of belts, zippers, and chains in his character designs.

I remember to read the term "Zippermaster" somewhere, as a nickname to Nomura.

All those belts, that reminds me of Digimon. Some of them had belts all over the body... I wonder if Nomura helped designing Digimon?

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What do you mean phase?

I mean there was a period of time when Nomura used lots and lots of belts, zippers, and chains in his character designs. You don't see them in VII, but you start to in VIII with Squall and to a lesser extent Zell. In X it's in full swing with Lulu, and if you look at Kingdom Hearts, it's there too.

I think Lasz is saying that Nomura hasn't exited that 'phase' yet. And that he didn't have any other phases before it.

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I've actually heard that Nomura designed this explicitly to troll the character animators.

He does that. He's stated that in VIII he specifically added the feathered collar on Squall to challenge them.

Yeah, I was going to mention this too, since fur was and apparently still is a pain for animators to work with and make it look good. But notice also that Lulu has a fur collar. I'm sure not many males will have missed it, given where it is. Hell, they might have even missed the belt skirt just because of the fur collar...

In FF7, his belts and zippers may have been toned down by A) graphical Limitations and the fact that there might have been a little more influence from Amano at the time, being the game where the transition occurred.

What is most unfortunate is that whoever the poor sod who does the designs now is, everyone still thinks it's Nomura.

But yeah, apparently he comes up with his most moronic designs just to annoy the animators. A noble goal, but a most morally questionable act just to troll. Most despicable, sir, most despicable.

But it's also apparently a Japanese cultural thing, which doesn't surprise me as it's a bit stupid, and I'm struggling to find anything in Japanese culture since the turn of the century that cannot at some point be fairly described as ultimately a bit stupid.

This post has been edited by Del S on 25th October 2010 11:45

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I too was distracted by something else...

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I too was distracted by something else...

Boobs.

I for one was distracted by boobs.

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What is most unfortunate is that whoever the poor sod who does the designs now is, everyone still thinks it's Nomura.

Uh, Nomura still does the designs.

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I too was distracted by something else...

Boobs.

I for one was distracted by boobs.

Uhh...I meant that her voice was hot, but stating the obvious:

Yes BEWBS!

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What is most unfortunate is that whoever the poor sod who does the designs now is, everyone still thinks it's Nomura.

Uh, Nomura still does the designs.

Doesn't Yoshida do them now?

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Doesn't Yoshida do them now?

Yoshida did XIV, Nomura did XIII, so I guess it's a wash until we see who's doing XV.

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Yoshida did XII as well, didn't he?

Either way, it now varies from game to game, since Squenix is using the "multiple teams" thing.

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Yoshida did XII as well, didn't he?

Either way, it now varies from game to game, since Squenix is using the "multiple teams" thing.

Yeah, actually. XII was originally started with a team similar to FF Tactics: Yoshida, Matsuno, and Sakimoto. Matsuno went crazy and quit, but I think that was the start of Yoshida working with the main series.

EDIT: And...yeesh this is getting off topic. Anyway, I always kind of liked Lulu, and not just because she was good-looking. She and Auron are probably the characters in the game that bothered me the least...though I am partial to tough women, I s'pose.

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Her defense is highest in the game because of those belts i guess
I wonder how much time it will take to wear the dress?
And i don't think there's any scene where she runs or jumps right?

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