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Kefka is a god. THE god. THE god of magic. He has the ability to destroy worlds with the flick of his wrist, and can make people do nothing but think about him nonstop.

And yet, when the time comes to solidify his reign, he looses. And not only does the god of magic loose, he looses to a small handful of mortals who struggled with even Ultros.*

Does anyone else see something glaringly wrong here?




*Well, I certainly had trouble with Ultros, anyway.

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Not really. Kefka is more like an ascended impostor than a true god. The party defeating him is proof enough of this, I daresay.

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I don't think so. For one, I agree with SilverMaduin, partially at least, in that perhaps he's not all-powerful. Also, the party has proven itself to be a powerful group of heroes. Each of them are great warriors, and are capable of destroying Kefka. Many learned to be powerful mages, Cyan is a legendary swordsman, Sabin can hold up a building for 4 minutes! These are not just weak people.

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no, because, unlike myself, kefka didnt have a genji glove + offering equipped. really, without that, he was doomed from the start.

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Aujourdhui a commence avec toi.

All villains in ff games must die,so the answer is no.

If the villain doesn't die,then the game would end and whats the point in playing if you know your going to lose anyways?

Unless of course you put multiple endings and have to find which is the good ending.

And:They had trained really hard with magic to become really powerful.

And although he was a god,he wasn't that powerful i guess.


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We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars.

Neil Degrasse Tyson.

As has been stated before, the Returners have become a group of formidable warriors by the end of the game. Nearly all the subplots and sidequests in the World of Ruin are about the characters facing their inner demons, realizing their untapped potential, and becoming stronger. So, it's not like these are ordinary people standing up to the god of magic.
Too, Kefka may have been omnipotent, but he had one fatal flaw -- his hubris. I think he could've gone Light of Judgment on the Returners any time he wanted, but he held back and let them storm his tower. Why? Because he didn't think a bunch of "pitiful insects" could do anything to him. Given the sort of person Kefka was, he probably thought it'd be more fun to let the heroes get their hopes up before destroying them rather than just killing them outright. (He does like to toy with his prey, after all.) But he underestimated them, and that proved to be his downfall.

Well, Smash does bring up something of a paradox of rpgs in general that's also bothered me:

On the one hand, the cool thing about rpgs is that you're constantly building your character(s); making them more and more powerful is one of the rewards for 'putting in the time' of playing. It's why I like to grind.

On the other hand, this does create somewhat of a discrepancy in an rpg's story. What once were formidable repo men and leafers soon become little more than mosquitos as you supposedly become tens, and even hundreds of times more powerful and 'tough' than you were when you last visited the place. At least Kefka had a valid reason for such a hundredfold increase in his power and constitution, since it was infused into him, but many of the playable characters are simply 'mortal' in comparison, in that they've just been 'working out' by killing things. Really, a sword is a sword and a gun is a gun, and both are just as capable of piercing your skull and killing you, no matter if the person holding it is of average strength or of superhuman strength. And that goes for the person whose skull it is too.

So yeah, I feel a certain degree of 'suspension of disbelief' is required for things like this.

On the other hand, one explanation for this might be that the magicite that the party carries is the 'infusion' needed in order to become superhuman. This doesn't really explain the multiplication of power before, say, Zozo, or for characters not equipped with magicite, but you could probably use it to explain away the discrepancy if you were willing to stretch a few things here and there. And also, you have to consider the limitations of the game in depicting actual fighting skill. And also you could try to work into the explanation the use of healing potions and magical equipment and stuff like that I guess.

But that brings up another common discrepancy, which is that bosses are usually too dumb to properly equip themselves for a battle, and their attacks usually aren't as powerful as yours while their 'toughness' is superior. Again, it's this way in reality because the designers were trying to make it enjoyable for the gamers, but if you look at it strictly from the perspective of the story, you can see something of a 'problem'.

And I'm not saying these are bad things, just things that require that good old concept of 'suspension of disbelief'.

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no, because, unlike myself, kefka didnt have a genji glove + offering equipped. really, without that, he was doomed from the start.

Haha, DCR.

I do agree with the general suspension of disbelief idea. I mean, magic doesn't exist in the real world. We're gonna have to let that one slide. There's some things that can be explained; like how monsters in a certain area stay at their weaker level because all they're used to is their own environment. But there are a lot of other areas where you just have to go along with it as a necessary concession.

As far as the question of Kefka, however, I don't have that big of an issue with him loosing. He certainly puts up a good fight. Sure he can rock the socks off of a non-moving town when he has all the time in the world, but when it's four heroes up close he can't follow the same tactics. And, as SilverMaduin said, he is really only an ascended, false god.

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