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That's right people. XIII-2 is all but confirmed now.

I'm happy. You're probaly not.


Ah well.

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"When we think there's no hope left, we keep looking until we find some!" - Claire Farron

I played the first 30 minutes at a friends house. I enjoyed it, but not having a PS3 or XBox 360 doesn't help. Interesting to see what happens of a XIII sequel.

No God? Last Story comes out this month, Tactics Ogre PSP next...I have Gods, and I'm following them quite closely.

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That would have made an interesting newspost! Perhaps I will make it one later on my own.

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That would have made an interesting newspost! Perhaps I will make it one later on my own.

Funny, I was going to do that too, until I saw this thread. Unfortunately, though, we don't know very much yet. The domain registering does tell us a lot, though we should remember that something similar happened once with Chrono Break.

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Or was that a name copyright? Too sad of a thing to remember.

This post has been edited by Death Penalty on 14th January 2011 22:44

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Wait all that's happened is a company Square sometimes works with has registered the name. It's not even certain that Square told them to do it, and even if they did it seems more precautionary. With the other two games in the Nova Fabulus Wondrus series I really doubt they'll be firing out a sequel any time soon.

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I'm a Deistic Existentialist, so I've been saying "no god" for years already...

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I'm a Deistic Existentialist, so I've been saying "no god" for years already...

Before I read "for years," I thought that this game's announcement made you lose your faith. Hmm, seeing that the original game got mixed reviews, it's very possible to expect worse from this. But who knows? This game may turn out well, though I don't see how.

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I'm a Deistic Existentialist, so I've been saying "no god" for years already...

Before I read "for years," I thought that this game's announcement made you lose your faith. Hmm, seeing that the original game got mixed reviews, it's very possible to expect worse from this. But who knows? This game may turn out well, though I don't see how.

The article I read on the topic at IGN leaned towards the opposite, and I think I do too. Square's had several big let downs lately, and I think with a company that size there will be a point of rebound. It's just a matter of time. An FFXIII-2 would be as good an opportunity as any to do this- Hey, here's what people didn't like about FFXIII; see what we did about it in FFXIII-2. At the very least, I would expect SE to be careful with this one. Of course, if this actually happens to begin with.

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Haha I think I get it. It's like somebody giving up believing God because theres no peace or happiness this world. FF XIII was seen in most fans eyes as a awful game, so it's like saying that there's no hope left, and people usually stop believing in God because they've lost hope in God. I still believe in God though, even though SE has done the unthinkable.

Who knows ? Maybe they'll fix up the mistakes from the original XIII, add in a better fighting system, fix up the summons and guess basically improve everything. But this just makes me want to rage. What time that could be used to make a FF V or FF VI DS or PSP remake is being used to make a sequel to a less- than average game. I really dislike the new Square. Please put me on a Doctor Who time warp machine to when Square actually cared about it's fans.

This post has been edited by ZidaneTribal on 15th January 2011 08:47

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I'm a Deistic Existentialist, so I've been saying "no god" for years already...

Before I read "for years," I thought that this game's announcement made you lose your faith. Hmm, seeing that the original game got mixed reviews, it's very possible to expect worse from this. But who knows? This game may turn out well, though I don't see how.

The article I read on the topic at IGN leaned towards the opposite, and I think I do too. Square's had several big let downs lately, and I think with a company that size there will be a point of rebound. It's just a matter of time. An FFXIII-2 would be as good an opportunity as any to do this- Hey, here's what people didn't like about FFXIII; see what we did about it in FFXIII-2. At the very least, I would expect SE to be careful with this one. Of course, if this actually happens to begin with.

He, we'll see. I'd personally have to see that to believe. A sequel to a so-so game being Square's savior? Hmm, a lot of things have to be handled extremely well. And that whole luck concept will be at play too.

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Praise Be To Helix!

There's no emoticon for what I'm feeling, because we thankfully do not have a facepalm icon. They have a barrel-load of things that would need fixed even in the eyes of people who liked the game if there were a sequel.

I mean, to some degree even fans of the game have all disliked something in line with the people who disliked it. If they're looking at straight numbers rather than fan response, yes, the sales indicate a follow-up would work but the reality is this is a real love-hate game. Some people love to hate it, some people hate it, some people hate that other people love it, some people love that other people hate it etc.

But really, there's only two things following after a turd. Another turd, or, you wipe. Still, even a turd makes a splash.

Now, once everyone shocked that I am not an enthusiastic flag-waver at this idea is gone, let's see what this sequel would need for me to care

-Non-linearity, or at the very least a sharp reduction in how many straight lines one must walk.
-Control of multiple characters and/or an online feature to allow the other characters controlled by friends on PSN or XBL
-Actual characters
-Less reliance of shiny graphics and pithy idiotic dialogue.
-A free copy of a better game with every copy, EG FF9 or an FF9 remake.

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-Oh, and how about a real goddamn song at the end credits, not ear rape from a talentless Mariah Carey wannabe who will be a pub singer in a decade?

This post has been edited by Del S on 16th January 2011 00:55

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-Abraham Lincoln, prior to the discovery of Irony.

Well, if FFX-2 is any example of sequel working withing the series, then FFXIII-2 will be even worse than FFXIII and that's saying something.

I hold no hope or excitation for this release. Heck, I wish it flops and the dev team recalls they were supposed to be making Kingdom Hearts 3.
I know KH is overrated and all, but it has, save for "385/2 Days" kept me entertained and even "Days" had a nifty system and good combat.

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There's no emoticon for what I'm feeling, because we thankfully do not have a facepalm icon. They have a barrel-load of things that would need fixed even in the eyes of people who liked the game if there were a sequel.

I mean, to some degree even fans of the game have all disliked something in line with the people who disliked it. If they're looking at straight numbers rather than fan response, yes, the sales indicate a follow-up would work but the reality is this is a real love-hate game. Some people love to hate it, some people hate it, some people hate that other people love it, some people love that other people hate it etc.

But really, there's only two things following after a turd. Another turd, or, you wipe. Still, even a turd makes a splash.

Now, once everyone shocked that I am not an enthusiastic flag-waver at this idea is gone, let's see what this sequel would need for me to care

-Non-linearity, or at the very least a sharp reduction in how many straight lines one must walk.
-Control of multiple characters and/or an online feature to allow the other characters controlled by friends on PSN or XBL
-Actual characters
-Less reliance of shiny graphics and pithy idiotic dialogue.
-A free copy of a better game with every copy, EG FF9 or an FF9 remake.

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-Oh, and how about a real goddamn song at the end credits, not ear rape from a talentless Mariah Carey wannabe who will be a pub singer in a decade?

I'd like to point out that, although My Hands is a terrible "song" it is far superior to "Kimi Ga Irukara." THAT was ear-rape.


Oh, and you're a fan of FFIX? I believe we may have more in common than I initially had reason to believe.






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Trailer on the official website:

http://www.finalfantasy13-2game.com/#/uk/trailer/

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Trailer on the official website:

http://www.finalfantasy13-2game.com/#/uk/trailer/

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Dear Square-Enix

Up yer maw.

Yours,

Del S

Well, same old stuff from Square Enix. And my god, that is one ugly bastard of a logo.

On the bright side, it'll be good for a laugh when the exact same thing happens again and the game splits the fanbase once more. So, a team that half arsed a sequel to a sequel then half arsed a proper sequel gets to do a sequel to their sequel I presume.

I wish the people pleased by this news the best of luck in getting something that is not a pile of arses. They will need it. After all, even if it looks good to you, there's a whole year of me, commenting on it, belittling it and slamming it to go. What fun.

This post has been edited by Del S on 20th January 2011 23:31

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i was told that ff13 was good and it was until they started forcing me play with hope whom i think is the worst character in final fantasy history including his weapon which is a boomerang i mean thats even more retarded and the only things i liked about the game were the graphics, snow ,and lightning other than that the game is horrible and i can only hope that the sequel is better because i have an addiction to playing every final fantasy hoping to get a story like 7 and 10

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also square had no excuse for 13 to suck because they had what 4 years to make it and they wasted it on graphics which i dont really care about if the story sucks

This post has been edited by rouge on 21st January 2011 02:40

How can you hate Hope more than SNOW? At least Hope has character development.


Oh, and the reason it took 4 years to make it is not because of graphics, but because of poor executive management. They had the dev team split up into separate groups with virtually no contact between each other. Beyond that, when they DID meet up, it was to discuss what they thought the game SHOULD BE, not actually MAKE it. Nobody had a "unified vision" - to use their words - of what the game should be like, and everything was in constant flux. According to Toriyama, the first time they had anything PLAYABLE was the demo Advent Children Complete.


But even with all that, I still ADORE this game. Yeah, it doesn't have a take-away message like VII or X, or even VI, but it had likeable characters - expect Snow - it had a fun battle system, it was over-the-top, and kinetic. The plot was weak, but the interactions between the characters themselves were entertaining and well written.


So yeah. We have different tastes in games.

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Quote (Smash Genesis @ 21st January 2011 03:28)

How can you hate Hope more than SNOW? At least Hope has character development.


Oh, and the reason it took 4 years to make it is not because of graphics, but because of poor executive management. They had the dev team split up into separate groups with virtually no contact between each other. Beyond that, when they DID meet up, it was to discuss what they thought the game SHOULD BE, not actually MAKE it. Nobody had a "unified vision" - to use their words - of what the game should be like, and everything was in constant flux. According to Toriyama, the first time they had anything PLAYABLE was the demo Advent Children Complete.


But even with all that, I still ADORE this game. Yeah, it doesn't have a take-away message like VII or X, or even VI, but it had likeable characters - expect Snow - it had a fun battle system, it was over-the-top, and kinetic. The plot was weak, but the interactions between the characters themselves were entertaining and well written.


So yeah. We have different tastes in games.

because hope sucks at least snow can fight and i still find no excuse if the game wasnt any good they shouldnt have released it and snow was the only character i cared about also the battle system was stupid i found it worse than ff12's which i actually enjoyed mainly because all it was was a version of ff12's with you being restricted to the character's desired movements instead of yours, also i thought any interaction with the characters was pointless

but yes i do have different tastes than you like i think im one of the very few on this site who thinks ff10 was the best ff gameout of the series

This post has been edited by rouge on 22nd January 2011 20:29

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I'm a Deistic Existentialist, so I've been saying "no god" for years already...

Before I read "for years," I thought that this game's announcement made you lose your faith. Hmm, seeing that the original game got mixed reviews, it's very possible to expect worse from this. But who knows? This game may turn out well, though I don't see how.

The article I read on the topic at IGN leaned towards the opposite, and I think I do too. Square's had several big let downs lately, and I think with a company that size there will be a point of rebound. It's just a matter of time. An FFXIII-2 would be as good an opportunity as any to do this- Hey, here's what people didn't like about FFXIII; see what we did about it in FFXIII-2. At the very least, I would expect SE to be careful with this one. Of course, if this actually happens to begin with.

He, we'll see. I'd personally have to see that to believe. A sequel to a so-so game being Square's savior? Hmm, a lot of things have to be handled extremely well. And that whole luck concept will be at play too.

Oh I certainly don't expect a savior. I mean that it would provide great footing with which SE could begin to recover.

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Currently Playing : Final Fantasy V
Most Recently Beat : Elder Scrolls: Skyrim
Favorite Game : Final Fantasy X

The newest CoNcast is up! Have a listen!

Isn't Hope by far the best Medic and a bloody good Synergist to boot? I know he has the highest magic power.

This post has been edited by Cefca on 22nd January 2011 21:26

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How can you hate Hope more than SNOW? At least Hope has character development.

I thought Snow was possibly one of the better ones, if only because he kept getting punched and blamed for everything. Don't get me wrong, I thought all the characters were bad, as much as I liked Lightening in battles she lost my support when she started hitting people for no reason.

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Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind.

Me on the Starcraft.

In talks about the conference where this was revealed, someone on stage said they "heard the complaints about FF13" and tried to address them here. So I dunno, this might turn out pretty cool. FF13's linearity kinda turned me off to it.

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Oh I certainly don't expect a savior. I mean that it would provide great footing with which SE could begin to recover.

True, true, perhaps it could work. Hey, there have been times where sequels have been much better than their predecessors. Perhaps we're judging too quickly.

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But I'm just saying that... we've been burnt before, so let's keep our guards up. If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig, then it's... probably a not-so-good game.

This post has been edited by BlitzSage on 22nd January 2011 22:48

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Praise Be To Helix!

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Quote (Smash Genesis @ 21st January 2011 03:28)

How can you hate Hope more than SNOW? At least Hope has character development.


Oh, and the reason it took 4 years to make it is not because of graphics, but because of poor executive management. They had the dev team split up into separate groups with virtually no contact between each other. Beyond that, when they DID meet up, it was to discuss what they thought the game SHOULD BE, not actually MAKE it. Nobody had a "unified vision" - to use their words - of what the game should be like, and everything was in constant flux. According to Toriyama, the first time they had anything PLAYABLE was the demo Advent Children Complete.


But even with all that, I still ADORE this game. Yeah, it doesn't have a take-away message like VII or X, or even VI, but it had likeable characters - expect Snow - it had a fun battle system, it was over-the-top, and kinetic. The plot was weak, but the interactions between the characters themselves were entertaining and well written.


So yeah. We have different tastes in games.

because hope sucks at least snow can fight and i still find no excuse if the game wasnt any good they shouldnt have released it and snow was the only character i cared about also the battle system was stupid i found it worse than ff12's which i actually enjoyed mainly because all it was was a version of ff12's with you being restricted to the character's desired movements instead of yours, also i thought any interaction with the characters was pointless

but yes i do have different tastes than you like i think im one of the very few on this site who thinks ff10 was the best ff gameout of the series

I think FFX was the best, so maybe we're not THAT different...

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I think FFX was the best, so maybe we're not THAT different...

sweet i dont understand why people hate ffx i though that the only bad part was the fact that the one weapon is a ball

FFXIII-2 ??!!!!!!! I never expected that! I haven't started playing XIII yet but I've seen a good bit of it. Wonder what they'll be like?

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