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Every time i fight him,he gives me trouble.

It is mostly his air jump called hells gate which was in the original ff7 and a ability called scintilation which is a fast slash and messes me up good.

I dodge the octo slash with ease as all i have to do is jump sideways.

And when it comes to playing as sephiroth,what is the best setup abilities?


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Well, fighting him is not that hard. Keep in mind that he's actually a mid-range fighter, with some long-range abilities to boot.

What can I say, master dodging and blocking. Whenever you see him draw his sword, block. If he uses Octaslash or Scintilla, dodge like crazy. Remember that Scintilla is a two-part attack, which starts with a blocking move, leaving you defenseless if you attacked. Learn to read his moves. Scintilla is actually pretty slow and short ranged, the catch is that it starts with a block, so if he blocks your attacks with it, there's no escape for you. When he uses Hell's Gate, well, that takes timing and artful dodging (I still mess up when he uses it regularly). To completely avoid it, try keeping above him-

One good hint while fighting any combo-based fighter (Sephy included), is only entering Ex Mode when during an enemy combo or brave->HP attack. This breaks them out of the combo, and you immediately should land a HP attack and Ex-Burst. This works with all foes but Shantotto, Ultimecia, and Golbez (and sometimes Garland).

What characters do you use when fighting him?




Now, for actually using him, I don't have a good setup. Best weapons are a plus. As for abilities, I personally like Riposte and Counterattack (since most of his moves are mid-range, if your enemy misses a short-range attack, you can punish him by using either Sudden Cruelty or Octaslash. Riposte boosts the damage of Scintilla). Also, I'm a big fan of Snooze and Lose, because it drains some Bravery and forces the foe to use an attack to stop losing Bravery. Cue to Shadow Flare, or if he's close, Oblivion/Sudden CrueltyOctaslash.

This post has been edited by Toransu Kuja on 18th June 2010 14:01

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Well, fighting him is not that hard. Keep in mind that he's actually a mid-range fighter, with some long-range abilities to boot.

What can I say, master dodging and blocking. Whenever you see him draw his sword, block. If he uses Octaslash or Scintilla, dodge like crazy. Remember that Scintilla is a two-part attack, which starts with a blocking move, leaving you defenseless if you attacked. Learn to read his moves. Scintilla is actually pretty slow and short ranged, the catch is that it starts with a block, so if he blocks your attacks with it, there's no escape for you. When he uses Hell's Gate, well, that takes timing and artful dodging (I still mess up when he uses it regularly). To completely avoid it, try keeping above him-

One good hint while fighting any combo-based fighter (Sephy included), is only entering Ex Mode when during an enemy combo or brave->HP attack. This breaks them out of the combo, and you immediately should land a HP attack and Ex-Burst. This works with all foes but Shantotto, Ultimecia, and Golbez (and sometimes Garland).

What characters do you use when fighting him?




Now, for actually using him, I don't have a good setup. Best weapons are a plus. As for abilities, I personally like Riposte and Counterattack (since most of his moves are mid-range, if your enemy misses a short-range attack, you can punish him by using either Sudden Cruelty or Octaslash. Riposte boosts the damage of Scintilla). Also, I'm a big fan of Snooze and Lose, because it drains some Bravery and forces the foe to use an attack to stop losing Bravery. Cue to Shadow Flare, or if he's close, Oblivion/Sudden CrueltyOctaslash.

What always gets me is scintilla and he uses it as a gap opener for regular attacks.

i seem to dodge his hp attack at least 80% of the time.

Last time i was using him,i tried to kill kuja but he made my life miserable because he kept going out of range.

I killed sephiroth a few times with cecil.

Cecil does a lot better than terra because of the flying attack called saints fall and a attack called search light and especially helpful at times,is cecil's dark energy that pushes him closer for hp attack.


This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 18th June 2010 16:36

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What always gets me is scintilla and he uses it as a gap opener for regular attacks.

i seem to dodge his hp attack at least 80% of the time.

Last time i was using him,i tried to kill kuja but he made my life miserable because he kept going out of range.

I killed sephiroth a few times with cecil.

Cecil does a lot better than terra because of the flying attack called saints fall and a attack called search light and especially helpful at times,is cecil's dark energy that pushes him closer for hp attack.

I don't use Cecil that much, in fact he's not a good char to use against Sephiroth because if he misses an attack, there is a lag Sephy can take advantage of. And he misses often. But with his Dark Knight form, if you hit, you hit hard, and the dark cannon can be used in a combo with virtally any other attack.

Terra is actually one of Sephy's big troubles. As long as you cast lots of Blizzaras and Blizzard Combos (if he gets too close) and use Tornado, you'll make quick work of him. Other good characters against Sephiroth are Golbez (he has two brave attacks that bypass Scintilla), Exdeath (if you know how to use him, you'll see that Sephy is quite predictable) and Firion (Reel axe crushes every defense, and branches into HP attack, so does Rope Knife).

And Kuja, my main... so devilishly versatile. Against him, I'd say stay close, but not too close (Strike Energy and Flare Star), and dodge every time he stops moving. Do not, ever, use attacks that make you stay still, like Black Materia, since it will miss and he'll Ultima your ass off.


What is your strategy? Do you spam HP attacks or do you try to break before?

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Terra is actually one of Sephy's big troubles. As long as you cast lots of Blizzaras and Blizzard Combos (if he gets too close) and use Tornado, you'll make quick work of him. Other good characters against Sephiroth are Golbez (he has two brave attacks that bypass Scintilla), Exdeath (if you know how to use him, you'll see that Sephy is quite predictable) and Firion (Reel axe crushes every defense, and branches into HP attack, so does Rope Knife).

And Kuja, my main... so devilishly versatile. Against him, I'd say stay close, but not too close (Strike Energy and Flare Star), and dodge every time he stops moving. Do not, ever, use attacks that make you stay still, like Black Materia, since it will miss and he'll Ultima your ass off.


What is your strategy? Do you spam HP attacks or do you try to break before? [/QUOTE]
As cecil:i use dark cannon to push him for me to hp attack and i also combine my spear attack and use reverse thrust to get away from hells gate and then use saints fall whenever i see him pause after an attack or regular hit to trick him.

I also use searchlight to get ranged attack and the dark ball attack that dark cecil has.

And yeah:Terra is a royal pain.

I tried to kill terra as squall but i cannot get near enough because she tornadoes me.

Kuja annoys me to no end as sephiroth.

I try to scintilla him for opening for an attack to break, with hp,but he goes far away and throws his magic attacks that annoy me.


This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 18th June 2010 17:46

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i just use squall and dont give him a chance to attack, due to the enormous amount of combos you can do in the air against him. after a bit, he'll break and then just use hp attacks. i never really played kuja after i got him to lvl 100, so i cant really vouch for him.

another easy character to win against everything is shantoto

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I try to scintilla him for opening for an attack to break, with hp,but he goes far away and throws his magic attacks that annoy me.

Big mistake. Against Scintilla, Kuja doesn't even have to dodge, he can just glide out of the way! Against him, I'd suggest an attack that keeps you moving, like Octaslash or Heaven's Light.

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another easy character to win against everything is shantoto

Do you mean that Shantotto? Well, I guess everybody's got their fighting styles. Shantotto's attacks are slow and easy to dodge, even though they're big (and that's when she has a lot of Bravery!). Her brave attacks are a pain to hit and whenever she attacks, she just stands there waiting for a Ultima to fall on her.

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Do you mean that Shantotto? Well, I guess everybody's got their fighting styles. Shantotto's attacks are slow and easy to dodge, even though they're big (and that's when she has a lot of Bravery!). Her brave attacks are a pain to hit and whenever she attacks, she just stands there waiting for a Ultima to fall on her.

if you know how to use her, you can stop the enemy from moving. they cant do anything to you while you keep attacking

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if you know how to use her, you can stop the enemy from moving. they cant do anything to you while you keep attacking

But Stun and Bind are easy to block and dodge. The first one is fast as hell, but its range is very limited. And it takes a huge lack of skill to be Binded. From all the characters in Dissidia, she's the one whose fighting style I like the least.

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if you know how to use her, you can stop the enemy from moving. they cant do anything to you while you keep attacking

But Stun and Bind are easy to block and dodge. The first one is fast as hell, but its range is very limited. And it takes a huge lack of skill to be Binded. From all the characters in Dissidia, she's the one whose fighting style I like the least.

not talking about those. her aero spell is fast, mild homing, and can trap enemies rather easily


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not talking about those. her aero spell is fast, mild homing, and can trap enemies rather easily

And if you happen do dodge it (which is not that hard, actually, just a sideways dodge move, the spell ain't that fast and if you're looking at her, you know when Shantotto stops=danger) you can just, y'know, air dash towards her and give her the spanking treatment.

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not talking about those. her aero spell is fast, mild homing, and can trap enemies rather easily

And if you happen do dodge it (which is not that hard, actually, just a sideways dodge move, the spell ain't that fast and if you're looking at her, you know when Shantotto stops=danger) you can just, y'know, air dash towards her and give her the spanking treatment.

then you, as shanttoto, can air dodge, and use a bravery attack or a stopper spell to distract them, then aero their brains out

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not talking about those. her aero spell is fast, mild homing, and can trap enemies rather easily

And if you happen do dodge it (which is not that hard, actually, just a sideways dodge move, the spell ain't that fast and if you're looking at her, you know when Shantotto stops=danger) you can just, y'know, air dash towards her and give her the spanking treatment.

then you, as shanttoto, can air dodge, and use a bravery attack or a stopper spell to distract them, then aero their brains out

Wrong, because you'll be frozen in place, still casting the spell.

But we're moving away from the thread's subject

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not talking about those. her aero spell is fast, mild homing, and can trap enemies rather easily

And if you happen do dodge it (which is not that hard, actually, just a sideways dodge move, the spell ain't that fast and if you're looking at her, you know when Shantotto stops=danger) you can just, y'know, air dash towards her and give her the spanking treatment.

then you, as shanttoto, can air dodge, and use a bravery attack or a stopper spell to distract them, then aero their brains out

Wrong, because you'll be frozen in place, still casting the spell.

But we're moving away from the thread's subject

you can cancel some moves with air dodge, aero included , but back on topic.

scintilla can be blocked, if i remember, and a lot of his moves have a second of a space where you can dodge away. so whenever hes about to hit you with an hp attack, dodge out, then rush in and attack. rinse and repeat.

EDIT: yeah, you could block the first hit, thats what i was thinking of

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If I remember correctly, Scintilla is not blockable. The first hit can be blocked but will make you stagger, and then the second hit cuts you in two.

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so whenever hes about to hit you with an hp attack, dodge out, then rush in and attack. rinse and repeat.

This is the universal basic strategy for Dissidia. Always worked for me.

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Another thing.

People say its hard to level but i got like 2 or 3 levels in 1 fight by winning a fight against sephiroth on max equipment and level 17 or 18 and i was level 17 and BOOM i was lvl 20 all the sudden and i was like:WOW

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You think that's easy? Fight a lvl. 100 Exdeath in Maximum mode with all three Chocobo items equipped. It makes it so very easy, just spam HP attacks. So easy I only used that trick with Gabranth (who sucks unless he's fully leveled up).

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Try and fight every fight in Orders Sanctuarararary Then rail grind and block when they get close. There is very little they can do to you then.

I don't really use sephiroth as he doesn't fit my fighting style. Zidane fits my fighting style. Also Kuja is near impossible to defeat with anybody as is Golbez and Jecht at high levels. Go fight a Level 100 Kuja at maximum dificulty and vicious behaviour (Happens to be my friend cards stats) and you will see

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