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Well, he believes life, hope and dream are "pointless," right? So, by him, life has nothing pleasurable to offer. So, if he doesn't think life has anything valuable in it, that in turn means he doesn't think sex is something enjoyable.


Just a theory really.

This post has been edited by Smash Genesis on 9th May 2010 22:08

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"When we think there's no hope left, we keep looking until we find some!" - Claire Farron

For someone like Kefka, I wouldn't doubt it.

I'd lean towards antisocial personality disorder than asexuality.

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Antisocial personality disorder is a psychiatric condition in which a person manipulates, exploits, or violates the rights of others. This behavior is often criminal.
Symptoms

A person with antisocial personality disorder:

    * Breaks the law repeatedly
    * Lies, steals, and fights often
    * Disregards the safety of self and others
    * Does not show any guilt

Also, I personally believe that "human asexuality" is a nonexistent condition that a few depressives or others with low self-esteem claim to suffer from. So on that point I have to disagree with you on principle.

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I have strongly believed in the past that he was just trying to toy with them, and get them angry at that point. Remember, it is actually two years later in the storyline, and he clearly has the capability to see all of the towns in the world. He also appears to have the ability to use the Light of Judgment at any time, so why hasn't he killed everyone yet? Also, if all he wants is power, how could he have power over no one? He needs people to be alive to be his subjects.

Now, to his asexuality. I would have to disagree with laszlow about asexuality beig non-existant. There are many people with psychological or emotional disorders that have no sex drive, and there are others that choose to be celibate. I do agree that he might have antisocial personality disorder.

I think that there is perhaps a case for it, but then again maybe not. There are few moments in the game that could point out such a character trait. You've got to think, we're only getting a slight window into the lives of these characters. Is it possible that he had no sexual desires? Sure, but there is no way of really proving it.

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Maybe all the magitek stuff (that also drove him insane) made him sterile?

If he has any form of sexuality at all, I'd guess it's auto-sexuality. Kefka wouldn't want to bring pleasure to another being in any form and thinks he has no equal, so what would he lust after? Aside from power that is. This isn't to say sex cannot be domineering and painful torture but his power trip seems to be more of a god complex with a hint of nihilism than anything else.

Asexuality does seem like a logical conclusion though, as it's very easy to see him as thinking those sorts of things are beneath him. Remember, no matter how terrible his crimes he also has the mindset of an aristocratic elitist, so a victorian mindset would make the most sense.

Of course if all my presumptions are wrong, he's definitely a sadistic f****r. There's no doubt about that.

This post has been edited by Tonepoet on 11th May 2010 13:05

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Role reversal at its finest.

Quote (laszlow @ 10th May 2010 21:03)

I'd lean towards antisocial personality disorder than asexuality.

Quote (Google)

Antisocial personality disorder is a psychiatric condition in which a person manipulates, exploits, or violates the rights of others. This behavior is often criminal.
Symptoms

A person with antisocial personality disorder:

    * Breaks the law repeatedly
    * Lies, steals, and fights often
    * Disregards the safety of self and others
    * Does not show any guilt

Also, I personally believe that "human asexuality" is a nonexistent condition that a few depressives or others with low self-esteem claim to suffer from. So on that point I have to disagree with you on principle.

Oh, I'm not disagreeing that he has antisocial personality disorder, but I am saying that he is also asexual. I cannot provide sufficient evidence to prove that asexuality exists at all, but my theory is going on the assumption that it is.

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Quote (Smash Genesis @ 11th May 2010 22:42)

Oh, I'm not disagreeing that he has antisocial personality disorder, but I am saying that he is also asexual. I cannot provide sufficient evidence to prove that asexuality exists at all, but my theory is going on the assumption that it is.

Well, what evidence is there of his asexuality within the game? In other words, what led you to that conclusion?

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Praise Be To Helix!

I haven't concluded that he is asexual, it's just a theory. The evidence in the game is that Kefka does not believe there is any pleasure in life, therefore, he does not find any pleasure in sex. Asexual people don't derive pleasure from sex, so Kefka might be asexual.

Really, it was just something that occurred to me when I was half awake.

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Call it a hypothesis then. Also when Gestahl suggests that Kefka and Celes procreate Kefka does not say anything to the contrary. But then again this is a game for all ages thus there would be no explicit refrences to sex (The Maduin Madeline scene aside)

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Quote (Smash Genesis @ 12th May 2010 10:19)

The evidence in the game is that Kefka does not believe there is any pleasure in life, therefore, he does not find any pleasure in sex.

Well, that is actually a good case for it, if he actually believes it. But when you think about it, some of the things he does in the game he seems to really enjoy.

This post has been edited by BlitzSage on 12th May 2010 19:50

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The only thing I remember him enjoying is destruction and torture in some form or another, and I'm pretty sure that isn't sex.


Okay, maybe he's into bondage.

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Quote (Smash Genesis @ 12th May 2010 22:00)

Okay, maybe he's into bondage.

I was about to say, often sex and violence are closely linked. Look at Hostel; it's a film that is 1/2 sex and 1/2 violence.

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Well he certainly is an oddball either way but I'm not sure he's asexual. I mean, we don't know that much about him. Although you do know enough about him to wonder. Maybe he's a sadist or something, he did have Terra hypnotised for a while.

Not sure though, I'd say the only thing that gets this guy going is destruction.

Looking at it from a different viewpoint though, he does say, more or less, that life is pointless and it'll all come to an end. I doubt he'd risk intercourse for creating life

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Hmm... Quite an interesting thought. However if he truly does not find sex appealing, it brings quite a different reason to my mind. I agree with an earlier comment stating that he would likely find everyone else to be below him, but there was one person who was his equal. Celes. I always thought he had a thing for her considering he was the one who took a liking to her as a child and pulled some strings to get her infused to become the only other magitek knight. Also he helps her scale the military ranks and gives her quite a few chances to come back to him during the events of the game. I believe he was obsessed with her and after she runs him through on the floating isle, betraying him(in his perspective) once again, he completely snaps. Thus causing him to believe that nothing is worthwhile. So that's why I believe he's not asexual. That's just my opinion though and if I'm wrong then I could certainly see it being true... Oh well whatever!

Or... maybe Kefka is just sexy.

All kidding aside, he's a sociopath.
Signs and symptoms of a sociopath, c/o Wikipedia (I know, I know, referencing Wikipedia in a discussion is like saying "because my mom said so")

Signs and symptoms
Characteristics of people with antisocial personality disorder may include:

Persistent lying or stealing
Apparent lack of remorse or empathy for others
Cruelty to animals
Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper
A history of childhood conduct disorder
Recurring difficulties with the law
Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others
Substance abuse
Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
Inability to tolerate boredom
Disregard for safety

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I think kefka's a psychopath.

You also forgot narcissism and inability to feel anything.




This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 20th July 2010 22:26

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I never thought of Kefka as a narcissist, he never really makes any indication for the fact, other than perhaps feeling he's above having sand in his boots. I'm going to toss another chip in for plain old sociopath. I mean, I guess he's asexual, but since the game never goes into his sexuality it's sort of a moot point, we can only make guesses and conjecture. However, his lack of empathy, explosions of emotions, and general disregard for living things is well-documented.

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I never thought of Kefka as a narcissist, he never really makes any indication for the fact, other than perhaps feeling he's above having sand in his boots. I'm going to toss another chip in for plain old sociopath.

Well, he thinks of himself as a god, and he built insanely huge (and annoying) towers in his own honor. Not enough narcissim there? haha

In all seriousness, I guess Kefka could be asexual, but i think a huge problem with this idea is that he never address sex in the game. Just because he desires to destroy the whole human race doesn't mean he wants to destroy sexual acts. maybe he wants to, but maybe his drive to become a god and supreme being makes him not consider everything he is destroying.

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Quote (Harlequin @ 22nd July 2010 20:58)

Quote (trismegistus @ 21st July 2010 02:53)

I never thought of Kefka as a narcissist, he never really makes any indication for the fact, other than perhaps feeling he's above having sand in his boots. I'm going to toss another chip in for plain old sociopath.

Well, he thinks of himself as a god, and he built insanely huge (and annoying) towers in his own honor. Not enough narcissim there? haha

In all seriousness, I guess Kefka could be asexual, but i think a huge problem with this idea is that he never address sex in the game. Just because he desires to destroy the whole human race doesn't mean he wants to destroy sexual acts. maybe he wants to, but maybe his drive to become a god and supreme being makes him not consider everything he is destroying.

Well, I think you're as right as one could be, because it is not addressed in the game. But to Genesis's original point, it could be that he is asexual. We never see him pursue Terra or Celes. Or, since he is so focused on world domination, maybe he is asexual by choice?

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You never thought kefka was a narcissist?

He thinks everybody is inferior to him.

He also has no value for human life whatsoever.

And sociopaths are always narcissists.

And all psychopaths are also sociopaths.

But not all narcissists are sociopaths and psychopaths.


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I remember reading somewhere that Kefka had a thing for Celes when she was younger. This was in interviews with the game designers after the fact, I believe? And unfortunately I don't have sources, but I remember a thread about Kefka floating around that might have some of the sources, if anyone cared enough to locate them.

So Kefka might not actually be asexual at all.

Although, most of the other characters have some romantic interest, except for Kefka of course.

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Cyan had a wife, Shadow had a wife, we have the two lovers in - what was it? Mobliz? - Terra is hit on by Edgar, and a possible hint of romance with Leo. Celes obviously likes Locke. Locke had a girlfriend, and likes Celes. Setzer had a girlfriend (and attempts to kidnap the opera singer he has a crush on). Mog had a girlfriend (look up his charm in japanese if you don't know what I'm referring to), Edgar hits on everything that moves... I don't think I'm forgetting any of the other romances...)

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"..." - Shadow
"I'm a General, not some love starved twit" - Celes
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