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Just finished playing through FF3us for about the 4th time, was cruising around looking for details on steal algorithms and ran into a thread on some other forum about Jaffar from Fire Emblem being Clyde from FF6, don't know if it's true or not, and honestly... I don't care (not a Fire Emblem fan) but got me going on the backstory, then spotted another thread where someone's prequel/sequel question got COMPLETELY obliterated by the "Should we?", "Nah", "I dont like sequels", "prequel would be better", "prequels don't interest me" "I dont like the context of your post", "Square might make a sequel", "Square sequels suck"... blah blah blah... so basically this is what's brought me me here (to my most used reference for my last playthrough), and to this forum, to post this topic...

I am interested in a cooperative effort to make a FF6 prequel... y'know, the rise of the Geshtalian Empire, Baram and Clyde! Biggs and Wedge!! Banon!!!! Gungho!!!!!!!! What sort of civil unrest split up the Jidoorian/Zozoian people... and not to mention Setzer's not-so-grey-haired days... maybe Umaro as his Chewbacca..

I'm adjusting a world map .png file I picked up and am getting ideas for how the world map would look about 30 years before the timeline of FF6...

A few thoughts so far:

Figaro Castle - under construction, literally... a hole in the ground, a few spires, some scaffolding and some sheds for the workers.

Ancient Castle - visible on the world map on the peninsula to the west of Figaro and a cave to the east of Kohlingen leading through the mountains to the "odd stratum" which will eventually by interrupted by the path of the subterranean Figaro castle's movements

Zozo - is off the map, Mt.Zozo is still there though.

Jidoor - is bigger and a more average wealth town...

Narshe - is not dug as deep into the mountains... need ideas.

Nikeah - the rockslide that segregated them from the rest of the world hasnt happened yet.

Doma - is still Doma, Cyan'd probably be a teen around this time

Opera House - non existent, instead a forest (which will be clear cut in order to make room and materials for the new opera house)

SOUTHERN CONTINENT

Imperial Base - removed, not built yet as Gestahl has not yet found the espers there.

Albrook - no ideas coming to mind here... help.

Maranda - not torched yet, so bigger

Vector - replaced by a large scale town with the mountain range closing in west and east to nearly (but not quite) segregate the two halves of the continent, basically setting up the premise of the civil war that enabled Gestahl to create his empire.

ADDITIONS

Triangle Island Town - nothing like a knock off Simpsons' invisible "Flesh eating ogre" to wipe out the population of a vacation island...

I put a town on the bay up the river from Doma and another on the eastern shore facing Triangle Island, figure this would be the trail of destruction which the Imperial Army would leave in their wake on the way to Doma.

Put a house in the small sparse forest near Mt.Kolts, dont know what I'm gonna do with it but I figure this quiet waterfront property would be desirable to someone.

Looking for ideas and others who may want to work on this venture... any thoughts on other things to add to the world map and OBVIOUSLY plot devices, character development, etc... if you want the PNG let me know and I'll email it to you.

- Reidrex

Wow, that's pretty interesting. I'm also currently writing a prequel, but it's 1000 years before the game during the war of the magi. Anyway, looks like you've got your work cut out for you, and I'd love to help however I can.

One idea that comes to mind is to have it as either a webcomic or as a flash adventure game (I'm thinking visual novel-type). I could help with the flash programming and construction if you do choose that.

Also, there's quite a few great fanfics out there you should check out which already have a lot of great ideas for a prequel. Maybe you could get permission from some of the authors to use their storylines rather than reinvent the wheel any more than you have to. My favorite is "The Shadow", which you can find here on CoN.

As for Jidoor/Zozo, I can certainly see some corruption taking place here, with the rich influencing the politics and policing of the town, and the poor relying on street gangs for 'protection', and the whole thing erupting or maybe even resulting in some sort of truce deal with the rich building the poor a town of their own if they promise to leave. I definitely see some street violence here, maybe even a riot or two.

I don't know about not having the Opera House. I would think it would have been a very old structure.

Also, what sort of distasteful politics really drove Sabin away from the throne? Maybe his father recieved a lot of flak about building such a wierd castle in the middle of the desert. Tensions around the court are certainly an intriguing subject.

Don't forget Doma had a railway back then too, which was destroyed by the Empire.

It'd be cool if this became like an open-source project where anyone could contribute whatever, such as artwork or storylines or whatnot.

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"Cease and Desist"

Work's only cut out for me if it's not a collaborative effort, open source would definitely be the key word here, i'm not looking to turn down any ideas unless they just plain don't fit in the storyline OR everyone agrees they're just plain stupid, wont provide any entertainment for the end-user and/or wont contribute anything beneficial to the storyline.

I completely understand the necessity for the Shadow backstory, if you note in my previous post I put a couple of towns up the river from Doma, these would be along the railroad, it could also pass through the forest to the southeast of Doma down towards Mobliz and across to Thamasa, even cross the northern province to Nikeah and cross the Lete on it's way to Narshe, then through the mountains to Kohlingen and make a straight shot down the bleakest run of map in the game... from Kohlingen to Jidoor... GOTTA do something with this tract of land! Baram and Clyde's adventures would make a great storyline, we could even have Locke be Baram's kid? Treasure hunting might run in the family?

To your point, Zozo is awfully similar to subsidized housing, something the people of Zozo could never afford to build... maybe Jidoor got so overcrowded with homeless people, beggars, and working class types that the upper class created Zozo as a suburb to house all of them? Unrest ensues and bam, you have a very angry mob of Zozoians and the Jidoorians who turn their noses up at them.

Maybe I should partially clear cut the forest and make the Opera House under construction? I'm a little hesitant to make any part of this game "same old, same old".

Sabin's not that old, I dont know if we could have the segment about Sabin leaving home at the start of the timeline, maybe as a consequence of the events? DEFINITELY gotta have some Duncan action, how could we not? And YES, this would REQUIRE additional blitzes.

I don't see how any civilization (including the denizens of Figaro) could validate building a submerging castle in the middle of the desert... sure it's cool and all but I'm doubtful that there'd be no distaste over doing this rather than making a road between the potential worksite and South Figaro? Or building a castle within walking distance of the town and without a cave full of monsters between the two?

Obviously the storyline wouldnt be as dramatically apocolyptical as the original however you could have a sort of underground revolution on the go, trying to fight back against the southern province of the Southern Continent (what will eventually become known as the Gestahlian Empire),

I'm a little familar with Flash, I'd actually like to keep to the original game type (sprites, aerial view, RPG, etc...) honestly, the layout of FF6 is what made me hack my phone and set it up to play it on the subway commute to work and makes me want to do a prequel, it's 16bit... yet not, the artwork for ff6 is so beyond that of 4, they did so much with what they had it's a shame there wasnt a repeat of it... would there be any hurdles in setting up the game to behave exactly like the original?

-Reidrex

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"Cease and Desist"

yelanates,
? ...sorry? can you clarify what's wrong? Do you mean that's what Squeenix is going to say and has said about other prequels? Yeah, it's possible. I really don't know why they bother though. Not like they're ever going to revisit the game.

Reidrex,
Have you ever tried making a video game? I'm just asking 'cause it's a lot of work, and most people don't finish. That's why I suggested a simpler format.


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Just noticed a bit of land on the northern shoreline of the northern continent, this would basically be on the other side of the ocean from Albrook, kind of makes me think this is where the Empire would've landed for it's invasion, and in geographic positioning it would make a great spot for a port?

Got a little bit of feedback concerning Figaro and the Opera House being old-looking and therefore constructed longer than 30 years before the timeline of FF6. In respects to this (and remember, I'm not looking to express veto power here, as I dont want to assume I have any), the only places that look new-ish are Vector, the imperial bases (desert and before the cave to the sealed gate), Narshe (kind of, but this isnt architecture, it's the mechanics) and (oddly enough) Zozo... with this in mind, the architecture of the Opera House is fitting of even the newest of houses built in the 30 years prior date range and to boot it's an OPERA HOUSE... you wouldnt make an Opera House all techy and newfangled! as for Figaro, what's the grounds for it being so old? to me it just looks like it's been submerged in sand repeatedly or endured a few sandstorms and therefore sand has gotten into the nooks and crannies.

FOR ANYONE THINKING OF HELPING

You all should know that in this effort we're not just looking for hackers or someone to take the whole project on (no, this is not me), we'll need people to adjust sprites, move gridded blocks to modify or create new towns, creative thinkers, techie's who can help build everything together and writers to come up with storyline material, scripts, monster names, etc etc etc... MAYBE, even midi writers to put in some new music? it'd have to be good though... like Nobuo Uematsu good.

- Reidrex

No, I've never built one myself,

I have graphic design experience, and did (as some of my schooling) formulate a pitch for a FFT style game which myself and a few of my classmates did ALL the necessary artwork... I have an aptitude for understanding the technical side of how they work, but I'm no game-making guru, I AM sure that if we pooled our ideas and skills it wouldnt be as hard as anyone might think if we delegate and distribute tasks... Don't get me wrong... I understand that there would be a lot of work involved in this, again, this is why I'm thinking of a collaborative effort...

As for Squeenix I think we can run our course until they put us on notice to stop, which we'd obviously do if they ever did so... they should know that we're not doing this for profit, just nostalgia for a game they REALLY should make a GOOD sequel to... IF they want to take the reigns and run with the idea I'm sure I speak for all of us, we'd be MORE than happily turn the keys over to the pros.

And they should know, mimicing (HA!) is the best form of flattery...

- Reidrex

There are a couple things I think you (or I guess we, since this is a collaboration) is how the empire formed and the Returners started, all leading up to the Heroes 10 years before the Cataclysm (since the game shows this as a crucial year in all of there lives). So maybe it could be set in 11 WB mainly, but show other things, even before the War of the Magi.

*some of this is from my personal fanfic, but all of the crazy outlandish stuff taken out*

FACTIONS

GESTAHLIAN EMPIRE
I think it could originally be a republic, maybe the Republic of Vector. It was originally the Kingdom of Vector after the WotM, but then Miranda, Tzen, Albrook, and Jidoor joined them to create a powerful continental nation.

BLITZ GUARD
The Blitz could be a part religious, part warlike group that is affiliated with the Vector and are instrumental in creating the Republic. Doing this could give Duncan a crucial role in the game. They fall apart during the Imperial Rebellion, and scatter around the world (and some enemies, such as Dadaluma, could be former Blitz)..

THE RETURNERS
After the Imperial Rebellion, former members of the republic, including Banon, form a group of rebels that wish to "return" to the former republic. The Blitz side with them, and so are forced into exile.

PLACES

ALBROOK
It is a lowly place at the time, very tumultuous. It is war-torn, because both the Imperial Rebellion and the Returner Movement began there. Because it was week it never really left the sphere of influence of the empire. Kefka takes this place during the war, but no shots are fired.

TZEN
The only city-state to retain its sovereignty to a degree in the Republic. It still had a king. It is finally captured by the rising star Leo later. *In my fanfic, Tzen has ties with Doma, thus leading the isolated Doma into a world war with the empire. I think that could work here?

MARANDA
They keep some strength, so are the last to fall to the empire. That is why Celes had to result to such methods when laying seige on the city-state. *I guess that info won't matter if we are focusing on a period a little earlier, but I thought it might be useful to know.

JIDOOR
The reason they are so rich is that they were not persuaded to rebel against the empire. Owzer, a former republican official, decided it was best not to, and thus Jidoor remained a satellite nation. They got their money through finding "enemies of the empire" *Setzer's father was apart of this, leading the free and liberal Setzer to leave.

ZOZO
Jidoor placed those "enemies of the empire deep into the mountains. Most were unable to escape (those who did were killed or sent back), and resources dwindled quickly, thus leading to excessive crime *at this time, there was no road leading there like there is in the game, so it is encircled in mountains.

I'll do some more later, like the characters and more places and factions. I'm very tired. Let me know what you think.

This post has been edited by BlitzSage on 13th June 2009 04:40

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Not sure if this is true or not and got no information to back things up.

But heard that Kefka was the Empire's Gardener before he was used/ subjected to the experiments which turned him wild/ crazy guy.

It sounds pretty fake. Mean- Kefka with Flowers ? But pretty sure it's real information.

But it would be cool to add Kefka into the story as a calm/ peaceful/ calm collected man before the magical experiments.

Maybe somebody who cares about Young Terra heaps- like a uncle ?
It would make Kefka seem more misunderstood and the Empire more evil

Just thoughts/ suggestions !

Glad your making this BTW. Go Team- Go !

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Quote (ZidaneTribal @ 14th June 2009 02:31)

It would make Kefka seem more misunderstood

I don't think that is real. I haven't heard of him being a gardener before. But I like the idea of him being misunderstood, to some degree. I'm working on doing some character info's right now. I've focused on the Empire and Doma, and I'll get into Figaro later.

I have a lot more info written. What I am focusing on is getting everything logical, to where the pre-game events lead to the in-game events. I'll post some more soon.

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Good to hear we're filling the bandwagon here,

Think I should mention that of the 'open forum' subjects, 'storyline' is at the top of the list, so, before anyone starts workin' 9-5 on the story, let's put a few ideas down and vote on which direction we want to head in,

Firstly, I notice we're talking about 2 different timeframes, -30 and -10... I don't think we need to choose between them, we could simply time lapse 20 years in the game, sound ok?

-30

Ages
GESTAHL - around 25
STRAGO, GUNGHO - around 30
BANON, ARVIS - 20
DUNCAN - 20
CYAN - 15
OWZER, IMPRESSARIO - 25
COLOSEUM GUY - 25
CID - 20
GAU'S FATHER - 30
ULTROS &CHUPON - I really think these two should be humans who are turned into an octopus and a big orange cloud demon by some esper/magitek mishap, thoughts?

If I missed anyone who would be old enough to mention, please let me know. Otherwise we'll need to create some pro/antagonists. Someone mentioned Sabin/Edgar's father, he'll fit into this timeframe, who else?

-10

Ages
ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE +20
CLYDE, BARAM - 30
CELES - 18 (Although most say she was 18 at the start of FF6 it's a little hard to believe given her military exploits, this would have put her at 16/17 when, as a general, she torched Maranda)
LEO - 25
LOCKE - 15 (Baram's kid?)
SETZER - 27, I know this is how old he is supposed to be in FF6, but c'mon...grey hair in mid 20's? Not unless he's an albino, which he could be if he wasnt riding an airship, directly exposed to sunlight for hours on end, he'd be burnt beet red! ... SPF 1000?
EDGAR/SABIN - 17
KEFKA - 22 (Thoughts on him being the Janitor of Cid's lab? This would explain his nouveau riche attitude towards power and also how he became the 1st test subject)
BIGGS & WEDGE - 22

Again, if I missed anyone, let me know...

-Reidrex

I don't have a storyline at all yet. I guess I can leave that for someone else. But I have a list in the works. It's pretty long however.

I have the Imperial Rebellion at 25WB, the First Imperial War at 24WB to 18WB, and the Second Imperial War from 10WB to 0WB. I think that, since the game shows events from 10WB (ten years before), then we should look to an earlier date. What do you guys think?

Edit

Here's the really long list. Not completed, at all

PEOPLE

BANON

A popular statesman/senator of the Vectorian Republic, Banon is universally respected, even by the Imperial rebels and after he forms the Returners. Unlike other senators, he does not leave completely; he goes to Albrook to form protests against the violence of the rebellion. When the first Imperial War begins, he decides to head for South Figaro, but before he leaves he creates a secret group to correspond with him. While almost all of the men in this group are killed, the foundation for the Returners was left with Banon.

DUNCAN

As part of the Blitz Guard, Duncan is one of the exiled during the Rebellion, but he never stops plotting against the Imperials. Duncan meets with Banon and they formulate a plan to depose the Rebels by starting a war, and placing the former king (Lance, Celes’s father) back on the throne. After it is unsuccessful, he remains tied to the Returners.

GESTAHL

Gestahl was not originally emperor. Because the rebellion was so violent and its leaders were deemed too radical, the people placed him on the throne. *this is inspired by the French Revolution, when the radical government overtook the monarchy, and then Napoleon was named First Consul.

This is perfect for one of the radical leaders, Kefka, as he saw Gestahl as a perfect puppet.

KEFKA

Kefka was one of the rebellion’s main leaders and a younger statesman. He was, however, still considered too radical and was, even at this time, unpopular. He was born in Thamasa, and was able to use magic even at this time. He pretended to undergo the Magitek procedure (as he figured, if it would seem successful, the project to revive magic would gain popularity). But since he already knew magic, it was a failure (and perhaps drove him insane). Since it seemed like a success, however, Kefka became a celebrity, wearing makeup and wielding his fame like a weapon.

LANCE CHERE

He was the last king of the Vectorian Republic, and the leader of the First Imperial War. He dies during the war, thus making it a failure, even though it led to the formation of the Returners. To spite him, his daughter is forced to undertake the experiment, and becomes the first truly successful person to survive it. She has no knowledge of her father, and no one, even Banon or Lance himself, had any knowledge of her. *So they figure either her name is a coincidence, or she was a distant cousin.

EVENTS

IMPERIAL REBELLION (25WB)

The young Kefka, who was taken in by the Vectorian aristocracy, was one of its leaders. Many citizens of the Republic believed that the Kingdoms of Doma and Figaro were growing in strength, and that Vector was too influenced by the Blitz Guard (who were at this time becoming less militaristic and more into study). Kefka, who was thought to have the ability to use Blitz when he was first found and taken in by Lance Chere, was under the tutelage of the Blitz Scholars and Warriors. And he was allowed to view their extensive history.

He formed the opinion that magic could be revived and used, but that the Republic should be reformed into a military state in order to achieve this. So in 25WB, he and a small extremist group stormed the capitol and proclaimed Vector an empire.

FIRST IMPERIAL WAR (24WB – 18WB)

Following the rebellion, the extremist, led by Kefka and another young Blitz, caused their own reign of terror, throwing out those Blitz warriors and senators not compliant. This turned the opinion of the world against the rebellion. With financial (not military) support, Lance staged a counter rebellion. It is initially successful, and most of the former rebels are either killed or disappear. And then during the year 20WB, Tzen, Albrook and Maranda officially secede from Vector. The turning point is when the puppet Gestahl is placed on the throne, and his presence unites and reinvigorates Vector once again. And late 19WB would see the death of Lance in a major battle. With new Vectorian leadership and the absence of a popular leader for the counter rebellion, it was officially ended a couple months later.

SECOND IMPERIAL WAR (10WB – 0WB)

After the victory and formation of the Gestahlian Empire, they poured all of their resources into Magitek research. In a period of recession, they decided that if they attacked in a continuous war, they could reform their society into a completely militaristic society (like Sparta), and successful campaigns could give them abundant resources. In 15WB, Kefka, adding to his newfound fame, took Albrook with no shots fired, and they transformed it into the second largest port, behind Nikeah. Then, they set their eyes on the also financially weak Tzen. Completely aware that this would send them into a war with Doma (whose empire was very large at the time, including the entire Veldt and surrounding areas), they sent their youngest general and smallest force in to conquer them. This was of course Leo, who would begin his legendary military career with this victory. Capturing Tzen and Albrook gave them the ability to fight the wealthy yet isolated Doman Kingdom, and the young General Leo would become the Gestahlian Empire’s greatest general.

The only thing that stood in his way was Sir Cyan, Retainer of Doma. Cyan was world-renowned as the greatest warrior of Doma, or anywhere for that matter. He had gained much experience through his thirty-year career, and Leo was not ready at the time to face him. This would become one of the most legendary battles of all time, pitting the old empire versus the new empire, and the old legend versus the young prodigy.

This post has been edited by BlitzSage on 15th June 2009 04:26

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History sounds cool.

Good luck with this, because it's a really tough thing to pull together.

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Quote (Death Penalty @ 17th June 2009 19:41)

History sounds cool.

Good luck with this, because it's a really tough thing to pull together.

Thanks. I was waiting for someone else, but no one else is posting anything. Well, I think this'll heat up when we get things organized.

I came up with an idea for a story to make the prequel about.

The story could begin with Kefka's takeover of Albrook without a shot fired.

*I didn't realize this when I was first creating this a couple days ago, but watching CNN I just realized that this next part mirrors the situation in Iran.*

The Empire is keeping the invasion secret, bribing merchants and creating a blockade to stop civilians from leaving. A young citizen of Albrook, named Arvis, who is controlled by the player, escapes the country and meets with Banon. Banon and other former Vectorian officials and begins the Returners. The rest of the events follow the growth of the Returners as they begin to oppose the Empire, all leading up to the pivotal year 10WB that is shown in the original game. We could also have flashbacks and flashforwards to show how the Empire began and what events led to the game.

I've also thought of a name: Before the Fall (if that has been used, then we can change it).

Other Things:

I've named Edgar and Sabin's father King James (taken from my cousin, but you can change that. Though I personally like it.)

We could show a flashforward sequence showing how Locke became a Returner (I had him in prison for being a thief, and Banon saves him).

Also a flashforward of the famous Siege of Doma between Cyan and Leo.

We'll have to find a way to put this all in.

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I'm not sure how much of this you're aiming on being canon, but I hate to bust some bubbles here, but a lot of the timeline, character backgrounds, and history for some places such as Figaro Castle/Empire/Kefka has been expanded, elaborated on, and 'officialized' by the FF6 Complete Works released a while back by Square.

Some of it has even been translated. And even some of that could be found right here in CoN, albeit maybe archived in the forums by now.

This post has been edited by Tryscal The Great on 21st June 2009 05:10

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I'm not sure how much of this you're aiming on being canon, but I hate to bust some bubbles here, but a lot of the timeline, character backgrounds, and history for some places such as Figaro Castle/Empire/Kefka has been expanded, elaborated on, and 'officialized' by the FF6 Complete Works released a while back by Square.

Some of it has even been translated. And even some of that could be found right here in CoN, albeit maybe archived in the forums by now.

None of it is canon, at least what I have created. It's all made up for a couple of reasons. It gives us more freedom to make the prequel about anything we want, and we have a more elaborate story to work with. If we do a prequel story, it needs to be big, epic. If we follow what they have done, we might not have enough stuff to work with. But if this is sort of our retelling of the story, then we can add stuff like the Republic of Vector, Siege of Doma, etc.

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Just a thought how is the opera song going to be created and Draco and Maria going to be actual characters ??

Liking everything so far. But think the Figaro Family [ Father & Mother] has already been named by Square. There is a Figaro Family tree somewhere online. Will try and find it for you.

Quote- ULTROS &CHUPON - I really think these two should be humans who are turned into an octopus and a big orange cloud demon by some esper/magitek mishap, thoughts?

Yeah agree with them being humans before they are changed into strange animal/ monsters. ^^

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Just a thought how is the opera song going to be created and Draco and Maria going to be actual characters ??

I've thought of that before. I believe that in my fanfic they were people before the War of the Magi.

But I think that they could be apart of a kingdom that formed after the war ended, but was ended before Figaro was created.

Also, to slightly serve a plot and create some difficulty for Banon building support, we can say that the East and West's conflict is a metaphor for Doma versus Figaro.

We could say, that before the Gestahlian Empire's rise, Figaro and Doma vied for supremacy, and because of their series of wars their is still bitterness between them. This is before Doma has internal struggles forcing them into isolation, and the Vectorian Republic grew into a major power.

This way, Banon can have some problems recruiting both countries for the cause.

We can also have a younger Impressario trying to come up with an idea for a new play (which eventually becomes "Maria and Draco"). That'll be cool. And, if we do flashbacks, we can show them as real characters.

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There is a Figaro Family tree somewhere online. Will try and find it for you.

Thanks. That'll help.

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ULTROS &CHUPON - I really think these two should be humans who are turned into an octopus and a big orange cloud demon by some esper/magitek mishap, thoughts?

Interesting. How would that carry out?

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I've been wating for someone else to post, but I guess that this is a different kind of topic.

I had something that I created. The East and the West Kingdoms were the formerly apart of the Ancient Kingdom that was the dominant kingdom before the WotM. And it split up and warred for dominance. No one knows what happened, but they guess that they eventually became Figaro. The Eastern Kingdom that fell during the world's probably became Figaro, and the Western Kingdom, which was much more like the Ancient Kingdom and disappeared. And the story of Draco and Maria shows how people romanticized it.

We can have a scenario where the players have to, or we can make it optional, gather information from some ruins to help the Impressario write a story. The information shows that there are many different versions of the story, alluding that most of it was embellished. But the player plays a flashback showing the true story.

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Hey guys,

Sorry, I've had to back-burner working on this, I've been hammered at work (12 hour days) and I'm apartment hunting at night, I found a place but I've got a LOT to do still... on top of this, my laptop busted (power jack snapped off the motherboard, can't charge it)... I'll try and get back on this once I A)move into my new place; and fix my GD computer.

Apologies,

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Hey guys,

Sorry, I've had to back-burner working on this, I've been hammered at work (12 hour days) and I'm apartment hunting at night, I found a place but I've got a LOT to do still... on top of this, my laptop busted (power jack snapped off the motherboard, can't charge it)... I'll try and get back on this once I A)move into my new place; and fix my GD computer.

Apologies,

Okay, what do you think so far?

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Woah-woah. Wait. I hadn't seen this topic before. I didn't read it all (will get to it), but it looks like someone is looking info on Figaro?

I know I pull this around every time I can, but...Here you go!
http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/in...showtopic=10914


Edit: Ok, I haven't read it all, but I NEED to answer to some things in the first post.

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Just finished playing through FF3us for about the 4th time, was cruising around looking for details on steal algorithms and ran into a thread on some other forum about Jaffar from Fire Emblem being Clyde from FF6, don't know if it's true or not, and honestly... I don't care (not a Fire Emblem fan)

<-Is a HUGE Fire Emblem fan, Jaffar=Shadow? That is the most loltastic thing I've heard in all week. Then I guess Lugh and Ray are Relm and Lucius is Stargo. Rofl, seriously. I guess you could draw some parallels, but no, just no.

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and not to mention Setzer's not-so-grey-haired days...maybe Umaro as his Chewbacca.. 

Setzer is an albino, that's why his hair is gray and he is so pale. He's only 27, the same as Edgar and Sabin. Can't argue about Chewbacca, though.

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Figaro Castle - under construction, literally... a hole in the ground, a few spires, some scaffolding and some sheds for the workers. 

It's been around since the twins' grandfather so...


Edit No.2: I finished it!

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But heard that Kefka was the Empire's Gardener before he was used/ subjected to the experiments which turned him wild/ crazy guy.

Kefka was a general like Leo. The one that was into gardening was Celes, she liked to take care of roses with Cid.

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LANCE CHERE

He was the last king of the Vectorian Republic, and the leader of the First Imperial War.

Celes' father was an imperial officer. Vector origins come from the Council of nations. It wasn't a kingdom, or a republic (by the way, how does a republic works with a king?). From what I understand Vector began as an organization kinda like the UN to keep peace between the nations, but with so much power it grew to become the Empire.

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I've named Edgar and Sabin's father King James (taken from my cousin, but you can change that. Though I personally like it.)

His name is Stewart >:U Stewart Remi Figaro.

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None of it is canon, at least what I have created. It's all made up for a couple of reasons. It gives us more freedom to make the prequel about anything we want, and we have a more elaborate story to work with. If we do a prequel story, it needs to be big, epic. If we follow what they have done, we might not have enough stuff to work with. But if this is sort of our retelling of the story, then we can add stuff like the Republic of Vector, Siege of Doma, etc. 

Oooh, I see. But I also don't understand what's wrong with what is already there. I mean, Gestahl rise to power=epic. And the whole Figaro backstory is totally epic, murdering attempts, betrayal, incest, sacrifice, crumbling castles, it has it all... Of course, I'm being totally biased again.

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Hey guys, got a new laptop, moving this weekend and need to pick up a mouse (Paint.net on a touchpad is RIDICULOUSLY hard to use), should be able to brush up on this and get back in the swing next week or the week after.

Cheers,

This is actually crazily interesting. I don't have anything to add to the storyline~ But you could probably make a game, by using RPG Maker XP or VX.
If so, you might find this interesting.

so, my aggravations never end... HDD fried on the new laptop, HP's sending me a replacement, should be here by the tenth... ... when will it end!

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so, my aggravations never end... HDD fried on the new laptop, HP's sending me a replacement, should be here by the tenth... ... when will it end!

Man, you're having no luck man. I guess it can only get better.

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no, no luck at all... I'm going to stop flooding this topic with my personal grievances though, just rest assured that I'll be back on board once I get this new HDD and get everything settled with the new laptop.

Wow I've started playing final fantasy six again about a month ago and suddenly got the urge to make my own fan based game. Instead of a prequel/sequel it's more of a side story that takes place during the events of FF6. I'm currently making it using Rm2k3 (rpg maker 2003). Perhaps we can collaborate, or maybe I can at least assist you on yours? I don't know how skilled I am, but so far I've managed to recreate Zozo (the exterior part of the city). I'm new here so I don't know if i can upload an image will have to check on that or, maybe I can send some picture your way? Hope you get the cpu problems solved.

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Wow I've started playing final fantasy six again about a month ago and suddenly got the urge to make my own fan based game. Instead of a prequel/sequel it's more of a side story that takes place during the events of FF6. I'm currently making it using Rm2k3 (rpg maker 2003). Perhaps we can collaborate, or maybe I can at least assist you on yours? I don't know how skilled I am, but so far I've managed to recreate Zozo (the exterior part of the city). I'm new here so I don't know if i can upload an image will have to check on that or, maybe I can send some picture your way? Hope you get the cpu problems solved.

That sounds good. We need some more people to get this thing started, and new ideas won't hurt either.

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Still looking for help with the story and characterization? I'd love to work on this!

I've been away from CoN for a while, but the reason - this massively epic fanfic I've been writing since February - is almost ready for posting and I'll be back on the boards!

Hope the compy woes are getting better.

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I figured I had paid my debt to society by paying my overdue fines at the McLennan County Library.

"Oh crap!"
- Bartz

"Huh? Why's everyone singing?"
- Sabin