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I love the game, but I never liked the ending. Sure it's flashy and dramatic, but as for the plot- Holy had the opposite affect, making the problem worse so the main character's victory only served to exasperate the issue then the planet just sort of saved itself. Total deus-ex-machina. More than that, everything would have worked out fine if the characters had all just sat around and done nothing. It's a great game, but it would have been better if Holy had worked.

Oh well.

Time to watch the movie! Gotta love Advent Children!

This post has been edited by Galhar on 14th February 2009 05:24

Sephiroth was blocking Holy. He had to die so that it could activate.

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yea, but they said at the end that Holy was having the opposite affect, making it worse. It would have been easier for the planet to save itself with the lifestream if Holy had never activated.

Ah, I see why you're confused. Either Holy is what lures the lifestream to Meteor, or Aeris has been an agent for darkness all along. Take your pick.

To elaborate further... Holy uses (or is) the power of the lifestream, as far as I understand. Remember that when Jenova crashed into the planet it only healed itself afterwards rather than prevented it.

This post has been edited by sweetdude on 16th February 2009 02:05

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Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind.

Me on the Starcraft.

I didn't quite get how Holy could have the opposite effect either. I figured that it would be too late for Holy alone to save the day, but that it would slow Meteor down. So I agree: that was a little odd. If they would have just said something like, "It's too late. Holy can't stop Meteor on it's own."

Perhaps Sephiroth was blocking the planet from healing itself as well?

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I thought the problem was that the meteor was so close to the planet's surface already that holy was also damaging the surface while trying to block meteor. Its been a while since I've played though, so I could be remembering wrong.

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I thought the problem was that the meteor was so close to the planet's surface already that holy was also damaging the surface while trying to block meteor.

That's about what I was thinking, but by what they were saying it sounded like meteor was just going to punch through holy as well. I don't think holy lured the life stream out either, remember holy was there long before the life stream came out, as a separate smooth energy. The life stream only came after holy failed.

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Holy uses (or is) the power of the lifestream, as far as I understand.

All magic uses the power of the lifestream in a way, usually they use the caster's own power which is a portion of lifestream that makes their soul, having separated from the planet's soul at their birth. That's how I understand it. Holy just needed more power than any one person could hold, that's why she needed to draw power from the planet itself to cast it.

It's kind of simple, and someone already got at it. I thought the game made it perfectly clear that killing Sephiroth took too long and so Holy did not have enough time to build up and destroy Meteor. As it was already about to collide with the planet, the force of the two powers colliding was causing just as much damage as if the Meteor were hitting.

At this point, the Lifestream (the source of Holy in the first place) intervenes and saves the day by combining it's full power to Holy. The Lifestream had been corrupted by having Sephiroth's true form within it for so long and could not purge itself until after he had been defeated just as Holy could not be summoned until he was physically dead.


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I thought the problem was that the meteor was so close to the planet's surface already that holy was also damaging the surface while trying to block meteor.

That's what I thought too. I didn't mind the ending to be honest, the part I REALLY hated was the never ending STARS right at the end, when you were expecting something cooler!

Another thing, if you're gonna watch Advent Children-1. watch it before you play Dirge Of Cerberus, and 2. watch the Japanese version! At least I thought that one was better, but do what you want.

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